24-06-2019 00:13:37 -!- ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 24-06-2019 00:13:51 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: mm, hi 24-06-2019 00:14:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: hi ER. 24-06-2019 00:23:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Heya 24-06-2019 00:23:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: FMD? :3 24-06-2019 00:23:35 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: g'day 24-06-2019 00:24:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Dridergame update. 24-06-2019 00:25:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: aye 24-06-2019 00:25:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: FMD: I got no clue 24-06-2019 00:26:03 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: imma watch beaglerush xcom on twitch 24-06-2019 00:26:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: sounds good. 24-06-2019 00:27:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: :( 24-06-2019 00:27:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: well, it'll come. 24-06-2019 00:27:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I do still need birdgame orders from you. 24-06-2019 00:27:36 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: *waves hand* 24-06-2019 00:28:59 < * Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net checks again. 24-06-2019 00:29:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Nope, don't have them. 24-06-2019 00:29:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Not really a hurry, though. 24-06-2019 00:29:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: did you get your last turn? 24-06-2019 00:30:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah 24-06-2019 00:30:28 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: probably just want to go the fuck home 24-06-2019 00:30:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but I don't feel like figuring that shit out 24-06-2019 00:31:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: You've already got a bit of a handle on it from your previous research. 24-06-2019 00:31:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: from trying to move that ninja. 24-06-2019 00:34:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: so.. if you want to try, you should be able to manage it. 24-06-2019 00:34:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Make sure you bring the ninja! 24-06-2019 00:34:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Pleaaaase! 24-06-2019 00:35:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Although you'll want to get anything you want to bring with you ready first. 24-06-2019 00:46:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Could I have the ninja carry physical objects with him? 24-06-2019 00:47:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Maaaybe. Stuff the ninja knows well? Likely. 24-06-2019 00:48:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Stuff the ninja doesn't know well? Much less likely, but not impossible. 24-06-2019 00:48:47 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "here, carry this sack of magic theory books for me" 24-06-2019 00:48:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: You could try.. 24-06-2019 00:49:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Him? 24-06-2019 01:03:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Found two double shotguns on the same level. 24-06-2019 01:03:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I should dual-wield. 24-06-2019 01:03:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Piecewise, is dual-wielding possible in Mook? 24-06-2019 01:03:51 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: hmmm 24-06-2019 01:04:08 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: maybe with a penalty to hit 24-06-2019 01:04:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: ! 24-06-2019 01:04:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: How does damage work with dual wielded guns? 24-06-2019 01:04:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Two hits, with independent damage? Or double dice, added, like foam guns? 24-06-2019 01:05:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Also, how much do foam guns cost? 24-06-2019 01:08:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Piecewise 24-06-2019 01:10:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hm 24-06-2019 01:10:53 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: time to duel wield concealed biorazers 24-06-2019 01:12:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: yes. 24-06-2019 01:12:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: maybe only some weapons work for DW. 24-06-2019 01:22:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: if I add more limbs I can use more than two 24-06-2019 01:22:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: sure. 24-06-2019 01:22:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: ER, how will dual wielding work in FMD? 24-06-2019 01:23:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: He did say that the implant that lets you manipulate flesh might apply to a pallet of nutri-paste. 24-06-2019 01:26:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you hold a weapon in one hand and another weapon in another hand and you attack with them 24-06-2019 01:27:33 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: actually making attacks that use both at once... possibly the realm of magic or special techniques 24-06-2019 01:28:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: ER, just vomit up some rules on how damage is dealt and how accuracy is rolled. 24-06-2019 01:29:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no 24-06-2019 01:29:12 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'm watching the xcom show 24-06-2019 01:29:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: People have 4 HP normally, so how much damage does a 9mm deal? 1d4? 1D5? 1d2, and critical hits are a thing? 24-06-2019 01:29:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Just 1 or 2? 24-06-2019 01:31:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: mm, scale is either 1d4 pistol damage or 1d6 pistol damage. Also being shot in the head will probably Just Kill You regardless so *shrug* 24-06-2019 01:32:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: 1d6? There's virtually no upward mobility there, what's an anti-material caliber do? 10d4? Rifle? 1D10? 2D6? 24-06-2019 01:33:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Feed me a new system, damnit 24-06-2019 01:33:12 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: just don't get shot lol~ 24-06-2019 01:34:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh, rifles might still be about 1d6 but have armor pen 24-06-2019 01:35:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: :\ 24-06-2019 01:36:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah, I think I'll be writing the damage numbers, but that helps. Bullets deal solid HP damage on hit, should be pretty lethal, can be autolethal on crits. 24-06-2019 01:36:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: pistols do 2d4, armour adds +2 Hp to a normally 4 HP person. 24-06-2019 01:36:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: How does accuracy work? Just roll 3d6+stat, and >10 hits normally? 24-06-2019 01:37:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: (just guessing.) 24-06-2019 01:37:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: honestly, still considering to-hit 24-06-2019 01:40:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Vs dodge or vs range+cover? 24-06-2019 01:40:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Or both? 24-06-2019 01:42:00 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: kinda like cover in WH40K RPGs, where it's basically armor that covers whatever body parts are actually behind it. Bit complex to keep track of though 24-06-2019 01:46:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: The system my CQB game was gonna use would use combined range increments/aiming levels. Every range increment is a doubling of distance/difficulty, and starts off very easy, with a low to-hit difficulty. When you hit someone, I roll for hit location on a chart for what level of aiming you did. Basic can hit anywhere, with a focus on torso, first aim level can hit upper body, second level can hit any limb, third can hit any spot, mechanically 24-06-2019 01:47:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: 's behind cover. 24-06-2019 01:47:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: some of that got cut, looks like 24-06-2019 01:48:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "third can hit any spot, mechanically 's behind cover." 24-06-2019 01:50:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: third can hit any spot, mechanically meaning all die roll maximum.  Someone behind cover just forces you to aim, and if you still succeed, the different damage chart accounts for the fact that you didn't hit what 24-06-2019 01:52:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: If you roll on CQC for your shot, aiming is prevented, because all hits in CQC are counted as near misses, which roll on a different damage chart that includes a fairly decent number of misses. In that case you just have to pay attention to where it hit, if they're behind cover. 24-06-2019 01:52:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Automatic fire has the same penalty, but can still be rolled with marksmanship. 24-06-2019 01:53:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Which is a little silly, since theoretically you could score a bunch of hits at long range when hitting someone in the eye id the same difficulty, but my intention was that recoil would just make autofire unworkable at long range. 24-06-2019 01:54:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Still haven't decided precisely what I'll do there, though. 24-06-2019 01:54:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Bah... 24-06-2019 01:54:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: bah. 24-06-2019 01:55:13 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: BAAAAA 24-06-2019 02:00:51 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I could just say no special rules or tile map and use the latest version of my 3d6 system, but that would make syv sad Kappa 24-06-2019 02:02:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Eh, not very. I'd enjoy the game less, but it would have less chance to die, so that more than balances out. I wouldn't be able to adapt my own gunlist into the game due to the low differentiation potential in Tactihell's system, but I could still make a good gunlist. 24-06-2019 02:03:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no, I mean less rules than TH 24-06-2019 02:03:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh. Well that'd just be boring. 24-06-2019 02:09:04 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Syv it would probably effectively work as two attacks with lowered to hit 24-06-2019 02:09:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: So, two attack rolls? 24-06-2019 02:09:30 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: sorry, rather erratically connected right now. 24-06-2019 02:09:38 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Yeah 24-06-2019 02:09:51 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Alternatively maybe 1 to hit and then two damage rolls 24-06-2019 02:09:59 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: (because I'm lazy) 24-06-2019 02:10:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hm 24-06-2019 02:10:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: The munchkin in me is crying, but you should have only one to-hit. 24-06-2019 02:10:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: are subserviant dead commanded mentally or verbally? 24-06-2019 02:10:33 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: do I remote control them with my brain? 24-06-2019 02:10:49 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Sy: Will remember that. 24-06-2019 02:10:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Two attack rolls more than offsets all but the most severe penalties, especially if you consider foam guns which would suddenly become the best weapon in the game. 24-06-2019 02:11:13 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: ER for the necromantic instigator or the ghost gun? 24-06-2019 02:11:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ghost gun doesn't make zombies does it? 24-06-2019 02:11:43 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: no, it just shoots ghosts 24-06-2019 02:11:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: necromancy please 24-06-2019 02:12:17 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: the instigator is controlled via voice, but they're smart enough to do things after being ordered 24-06-2019 02:12:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: how are their stats determined? 24-06-2019 02:33:22 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: They are basically copies of the creatures you animate 24-06-2019 02:33:35 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: sometimes debuffed if they're badly mangled 24-06-2019 02:34:02 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so I need to use a solider if I want a zombie with good aim? 24-06-2019 02:37:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: If Rezel buys a bunch of copies of himself, and poisons each of them, could Clem then raise the corpses to get a bunch of zombies with d12 guns, up until they die again? 24-06-2019 02:37:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: *D12 gun skill 24-06-2019 02:40:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Dunno if they last that long. 24-06-2019 02:40:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: and aren't clones like 500 bucks each? 24-06-2019 02:41:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: like 1000 for a clone 24-06-2019 02:41:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: 500 for a generic organic body 24-06-2019 02:42:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Not bad for a 100% loyal bodyguard with d12 attack, and mild reusability. 24-06-2019 02:42:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: and no armour. 24-06-2019 02:43:07 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: zombies don't need armor ;P 24-06-2019 02:43:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: And no gun either, yeah. It's still not bad. 24-06-2019 02:43:35 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: we can probably find enough guns from teammate corpses by that point 24-06-2019 02:44:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: basic rifles are 200. 24-06-2019 02:44:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: so five per clone. 24-06-2019 02:44:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: wonder if Clem will be promoted to Head Cultist. Because I don't think there are any other currently active cultists. :P 24-06-2019 02:44:33 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: aren't rifles 300? 24-06-2019 02:44:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah, sorry. 24-06-2019 02:44:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I was under that impression myself. 24-06-2019 02:44:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: 30 per magazine. 24-06-2019 02:44:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: so 300. 24-06-2019 02:45:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I hope you get some good culty stuff going on. 24-06-2019 02:45:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: and I leave before it turns into a revival farm. 24-06-2019 02:45:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: So... 1600 for a personal security member with above-average stats and complete loyalty. 24-06-2019 02:46:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Rezel would need more dex, so you could give him shields, but still a good tactic. 24-06-2019 02:46:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: 1500 up front for the necromancy too 24-06-2019 02:46:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and roll twice for each use of it, but I should have d12 in both skills before too long 24-06-2019 02:46:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: unless you die. 24-06-2019 02:46:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: and still not that great odds. 24-06-2019 02:47:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: odds of one 1 on two d12s are pretty good. 24-06-2019 02:47:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: But should be workable. 24-06-2019 02:47:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: if not infinite and expensive. 24-06-2019 02:47:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's a PW game, you don't have that much chance of death. 24-06-2019 02:47:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: He's been killing us at about 3 a mission. 24-06-2019 02:47:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: General incompetency. 24-06-2019 02:49:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, I'm not the best at not succumbing to general incompetancy. 24-06-2019 02:49:51 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: specially when I'm bored 24-06-2019 02:49:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: there will be something to stab. 24-06-2019 02:49:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Fair point. 24-06-2019 02:50:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: How much do foam guns cost? 24-06-2019 02:50:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the one skull I bought should help 24-06-2019 02:50:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: They'd be even more awesome with this tactic. 24-06-2019 02:50:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: something to actually use 24-06-2019 02:50:33 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no 24-06-2019 02:50:36 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: not enuff kill 24-06-2019 02:50:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Didn't buy a cultist knife? 24-06-2019 02:51:02 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you should make rezel super buff so that we can give his zombie clones big guns 24-06-2019 02:51:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: get some of the exosuit carbines 24-06-2019 02:51:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Foam guns are the only weapon that can easily and reliably get above d10 damage, and they're probably cheap to boot. 24-06-2019 02:51:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I'll get d10 soon enough. 24-06-2019 02:51:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: cultist knife isn't great 24-06-2019 02:51:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I was going to level his strength from now on, yes. 24-06-2019 02:52:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Your marksmanship sucks. 24-06-2019 02:52:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: it's fine. 24-06-2019 02:52:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, I was gunning for the autocannon, the carbine kinda sucks. 24-06-2019 02:52:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: d6 is enough. 24-06-2019 02:54:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Hey, Piecewise! Would you be okay with me changing my stat levelup in MOOK? I haven't done anything since the levelup, beyond buying stuff. 24-06-2019 02:54:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah, the carbine isn't that great. 24-06-2019 02:55:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: looks like it's cheap but for guys who pump strength early. 24-06-2019 02:55:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ..the ferromagnetic accelerator is strictly better and cheaper. 24-06-2019 02:55:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: heh 24-06-2019 02:55:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: It is! 24-06-2019 02:55:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Most of the guns suck. 24-06-2019 02:56:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Except the anti-armour rifle. 24-06-2019 02:56:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: It isn't. It requires you to have large enough projectiles around. 24-06-2019 02:56:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: and the toxigun. 24-06-2019 02:57:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Anti-armor rifle requires 200 per shot, and can still miss, and is a much worse initial investment than the grenade launcher. 24-06-2019 02:57:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: there are no grenades that ignore armour, and they can miss too. 24-06-2019 02:58:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: They can miss, but you get way more options, more powerful on a hit (which is likely at d10), they're cheaper, and a placed charge is cheaper. 24-06-2019 02:58:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: placed charge is cheaper. 24-06-2019 02:59:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: but more powerful on a hit? d10 ignoring armour is a lot of damage. 24-06-2019 02:59:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: It's a guaranteed kill on like any roll over a 4. 24-06-2019 02:59:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no no, clearly the best option is starting with d12 occult 24-06-2019 02:59:32 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and tossing skulls at chumps 24-06-2019 02:59:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: D8 ignoring armor. 24-06-2019 02:59:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: what is armor to a skull? 24-06-2019 02:59:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Mmm, yeah, but placed charges aren't wide angle. If it's on the ceiling or something, you're screwed. 24-06-2019 03:00:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Well, I suppose not with the grenade launcher. 24-06-2019 03:00:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Alternatively, you can get d8 AoE, or a d8 flashbang, or a d10 single target reusabls on a miss, or a d10 AoE anti robot, or a foam grenade... 24-06-2019 03:00:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah. 24-06-2019 03:00:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: and don't need to reload. 24-06-2019 03:00:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: but 200 per shot isn't right, either. 24-06-2019 03:00:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: And more importantly, you can get *more* shots. So basic marksmanship misses matter less. Every fail doesn'r cost you 200 omni. 24-06-2019 03:01:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: No, just 150 omni. 24-06-2019 03:01:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Right, yeah, single shot. 24-06-2019 03:01:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: OMNITECH Anti-armour rifle (d8, Ignores armor. Requires Str d10. Single round.) 24-06-2019 03:01:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Price: 2000 OMNI 24-06-2019 03:01:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: that's gonna change if I get one. 24-06-2019 03:01:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: ???? 24-06-2019 03:01:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: 200 per shot. 24-06-2019 03:01:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah, thought it was d4 for a sec. 24-06-2019 03:02:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh, you mean with the placed charge. Placed charge is remote detonation. So don't detonate it if it misses. 24-06-2019 03:02:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ... 24-06-2019 03:02:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: remote detonation implies you can only blow it up next turn. 24-06-2019 03:02:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: That's a pretty big drawback. 24-06-2019 03:02:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Why would it? Just say "if it hits, I press the button." 24-06-2019 03:03:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hell, airburst that baby. 24-06-2019 03:03:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I'd say 'safety feature', but this is omnicorp. 24-06-2019 03:03:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: unsafety feature 24-06-2019 03:04:35 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: they intentionally give you dangerous things to do so that when you mess up they can sue you for getting injured on the job 24-06-2019 03:04:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: You're right, though, guns are pretty much weak. 24-06-2019 03:04:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Anyway, I'd go with the autocannon. Reliable d12, ammo costs only 150, and is d4 use so you get more shots with it. Doesn't ignore armor, but does 50% more damage, so unless something *needs* the anti-armor rifle, it'll probably work out. 24-06-2019 03:05:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: although giving the A-A rifle a use die would be good. 24-06-2019 03:05:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: and maybe the detpack advantage on damage or something else nice and unique. Probably enforce that you can only use it the next turn. 24-06-2019 03:05:57 -!- midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 24-06-2019 03:06:01 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Lo 24-06-2019 03:06:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Melee is pretty weak as well, unless you go with dex. Dex with plasma cutter is absurd. 24-06-2019 03:06:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I'm ok with that. 24-06-2019 03:06:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Might be a design decision. 24-06-2019 03:06:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: otoh, one guy with melee can hold off a melee enemy. 24-06-2019 03:06:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah, it's the only d12 melee weapon. 24-06-2019 03:07:27 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: What’s this? 24-06-2019 03:07:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: MOOK 24-06-2019 03:07:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Talking about Mook. 24-06-2019 03:07:36 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Ah 24-06-2019 03:07:36 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: owo 24-06-2019 03:07:39 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Neat. 24-06-2019 03:07:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Occult is weak for direct damage but has lots of fun. 24-06-2019 03:07:44 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: How’re people? 24-06-2019 03:07:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Guns in general suck. 24-06-2019 03:07:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ok. 24-06-2019 03:08:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Pile bunker is arguably cheaper, I suppose, but 300 per d4 isn't that bad, especially since it has no giant buy-in like the autocannon. You can get five for the price of one autocannon + first mag. 24-06-2019 03:08:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Explosives are pretty much great. 24-06-2019 03:08:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Just expensive. 24-06-2019 03:08:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: More than things being weak, the basic security rifle is just awesome. 24-06-2019 03:08:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah. 24-06-2019 03:08:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: It is pretty good. 24-06-2019 03:09:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I suppose that's reasonable, then. 24-06-2019 03:09:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Costs less than most guns, does d6 damage in all situations, lots of spare mags floating around, and it looks like a P90 to boot! What's not to love? 24-06-2019 03:09:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: more likely to do things and get paid more, but hard to cap. 24-06-2019 03:09:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ie, you don't get much better. 24-06-2019 03:09:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Do our mags refill, or are they completely single use? 24-06-2019 03:09:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: dunno. 24-06-2019 03:10:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I think I was going to assume half price to refill a partly-used mag, but full price for an empty one. 24-06-2019 03:11:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Then there'd be basically no reason to record empties on your sheet... but yeah, that's about what I'd expect. 24-06-2019 03:11:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, makes d6 use die guns--like the security rifle--even better, if halfprice refills are a thing. 24-06-2019 03:11:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: maybe not then. 24-06-2019 03:12:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Jeez, the thing is straight up better than a lot of the armory. 24-06-2019 03:12:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I was just thinking half-price because you've used half the mag. 24-06-2019 03:12:32 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I believe that someone asked about refilling magazines and bonerface was like "fuck off I don't wanna deal with that" but less rune than me 24-06-2019 03:12:35 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: rude 24-06-2019 03:12:53 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: despite the fact that we manage our own inventories ;P 24-06-2019 03:14:18 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: But then does it cost just as much to refill a mag that has one round left versus on that has only fired a single shot? 24-06-2019 03:14:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: "Pay 33% more, you get a revolver that does less damage ~80% of the time, needs to be reloaded more often, and has more expensive ammo." 24-06-2019 03:14:29 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: So like there’s a lot of granularity and such 24-06-2019 03:14:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's use die, MJ. Whether you've fired one or fifty bullets, if it's d4, it has the same amount of ammo left. 24-06-2019 03:14:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I guess you could onehand it syv? 24-06-2019 03:14:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: 'but can be dual-wielded' 24-06-2019 03:15:03 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Ah. 24-06-2019 03:15:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's stupid and we all hate it, but that's what big boner decided to do. 24-06-2019 03:15:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I like it. 24-06-2019 03:15:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Why wouldn't you be able to onehand the security rifle? 24-06-2019 03:15:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I think PW overestimates the power of exploding die 24-06-2019 03:15:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: the revolver you dummy. 24-06-2019 03:16:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I know he said the revolver can be DW'd. I'm saying the security rifle can be, too, you dummy. 24-06-2019 03:16:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Shouldn't be. 24-06-2019 03:16:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Why not? 24-06-2019 03:17:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: because rifle? 24-06-2019 03:18:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Someone with d4 strength can wield it twohanded, someone with d6 or d8 should *totally* be able to onehand it, and that's not much str to ask. And that's only if Dubs decides to add a rule making things more complicated. 24-06-2019 03:19:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's a bullpup rifle, so it should actually have excellent balance for onehanding. Especially if its weight balance is anything like that actual P90, which it would be, because the trigger is just forward of center, same as any rifle's CoG. 24-06-2019 03:20:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, that revolver is probably ridiculously heavy. 24-06-2019 03:20:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well, those rifles are seemingly made as cheaply as humanly possible 24-06-2019 03:20:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so the balance might be overall fucked 24-06-2019 03:21:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Pinpoint carbine: more than double the cost, you roll damage twice if you spend your first turn not shooting, and also discard the lower result. And you get a smaller, more expensive magazine. Buy yours today! 24-06-2019 03:21:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: You know, Dubs is just going to make the basic rifles 500, then. 24-06-2019 03:22:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Piledriver: You get a ~33% damage increase, if you have d10 str, and still have a smalled mag. Or you could buy three of the basic rifle, or two d8 armor shields. 24-06-2019 03:22:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: That would make sense and it would still be better than a bunch of the more expensive guns. 24-06-2019 03:22:52 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: The name sounds cool though. 24-06-2019 03:22:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Also, prolly going to treat dual-wielding like I do in Survivor. 24-06-2019 03:23:29 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: sec rifle is the epitome of Boring But Practical 24-06-2019 03:23:36 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Syv sure 24-06-2019 03:23:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: to what 24-06-2019 03:24:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Flamesprayer: QUADRUPLE cost, deals a bonus 66% damage, except armor is applied twice, and it doesn't work against inorganics. 24-06-2019 03:24:03 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: changing his stats 24-06-2019 03:24:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yay 24-06-2019 03:24:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: (Piecewise) Mags do not refill 24-06-2019 03:24:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: (In PM) 24-06-2019 03:24:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but at least the flamesprayer can exploit weaknesses to flame? 24-06-2019 03:24:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah. 24-06-2019 03:24:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: kill it with fire, eh 24-06-2019 03:24:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Might be stuff weak to fire. 24-06-2019 03:25:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: or mostly immune to X. 24-06-2019 03:25:28 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: anything that makes you say NOPE is probably flame vulnerable :P 24-06-2019 03:25:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: So you get a specialty tool that costs as much as maintaining d12 health for four rounds, guaranteed. 24-06-2019 03:26:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, it's one security rifle cheaper than the security autocannon. 24-06-2019 03:26:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Man, security rifles and the d12 shields have the same cost. 24-06-2019 03:27:22 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: If you see cost problems, leave a comment on the doc 24-06-2019 03:27:34 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Like I said, they were added quickly and I am bad at balance 24-06-2019 03:28:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Can I comment on predicted damage/utility as well? 24-06-2019 03:28:15 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: sure 24-06-2019 03:28:32 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, part of the problem appears to be many thing being weaker than starting equipment :P 24-06-2019 03:28:32 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: do as you like, might help balance things 24-06-2019 03:29:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Is there any reason why so much stuff has d4 magazines? 24-06-2019 03:29:58 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: so they run out of ammo relatively fast 24-06-2019 03:29:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: 25% chance for your mag to run out every use seems really harsh when another costs almost as much as another gun that's only slightly weaker and comes with its own full mag. 24-06-2019 03:30:27 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: hmm 24-06-2019 03:30:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: it's 50%, actually. 24-06-2019 03:30:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: mag shrinks on 1 or 2. 24-06-2019 03:30:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the next level up, d6, is a 16% chance that it doesn't even run out 24-06-2019 03:30:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, it makes no sense, you can buy five d6 securifle mags for the cost of one autocannon mag. Or seven securifle mags for the price of one anti-armor bullet. 24-06-2019 03:31:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Wait what 24-06-2019 03:31:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: is it? 24-06-2019 03:31:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: D4 use is 50%? I thought it only went down on 1? 24-06-2019 03:31:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Piecewise? 24-06-2019 03:32:19 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I don't honestly remember but I want to say 1 or 2. However, I do see the difficulty when it come to pricing ammo at 10% 24-06-2019 03:32:33 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I'll have to edit them to not be so much 24-06-2019 03:32:47 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: and probably make d6 the standard in more stuff 24-06-2019 03:32:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Just up the cost of the base rifle, and make new guns come with two free mags. 24-06-2019 03:32:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: but yeah, some d6s would be good too. 24-06-2019 03:33:13 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: might want to go through and give things ammo costs rather than 1/10 24-06-2019 03:33:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Uh 24-06-2019 03:33:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Why is d4 1 or 2? That's a d2. 24-06-2019 03:33:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I'm trying to come up with a general rule that'll mean less writing stuff down. 24-06-2019 03:33:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: anti armor rounds can't be so explensive, and I bet flmwrfer fuel isn't expensive either 24-06-2019 03:34:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Which makes very little sense. And is very bad for me, personally, because I bought d4 armor thinking it's 75% reusable. 24-06-2019 03:34:18 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: 1 or 2 is standard in use die, though I might have to lower it to 1 24-06-2019 03:34:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: eh, keep it at 1 or 2. 24-06-2019 03:34:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: hot reloading action. 24-06-2019 03:34:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: don't listen to Dev. 24-06-2019 03:34:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Dev is bad advice. 24-06-2019 03:34:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: make a 1 reduce die size by 2 24-06-2019 03:34:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: the guy who is using lots of guns? 24-06-2019 03:35:09 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I'll be back in a few, keep pointing out issues 24-06-2019 03:35:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: not my problem my only good weapon is single use, no dies 24-06-2019 03:35:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Ugh. If it's keeping d4 use die at 50% lowering, I want to rethink my purchases... 24-06-2019 03:35:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: rethink your LIFE~ 24-06-2019 03:35:54 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Just have all payment be in blood. Simple. Easy book keeping and everyone has the same amount :P 24-06-2019 03:36:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: just like teef 24-06-2019 03:36:49 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: See. ER gets it~ 24-06-2019 03:37:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: If 1 or 2 on use die is standard, I hate the mechanic even more. That's completely stupid, it should just be a coinflip. 24-06-2019 03:38:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Of course you do. 24-06-2019 03:38:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: because all use dies are going to be 1d4. 24-06-2019 03:39:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...What? 24-06-2019 03:39:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, having many things be 50/50 to run out of ammo every single use is probably not good balance 24-06-2019 03:40:07 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: he should keep it as 1-2 reducing size and let us buy extended magazines which roll 2d6 24-06-2019 03:40:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I'm planning on just making extended mags. 24-06-2019 03:41:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Be back later. 24-06-2019 03:42:01 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr has quit [Quit: ???] 24-06-2019 03:48:39 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Hey dev do you want to watch some OPM in a bit? 24-06-2019 03:51:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: maybe. 24-06-2019 03:51:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Ugh, laser rifle in Max Carnage. 24-06-2019 03:51:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: (It's a plasma rifle, except it hits all the time. Sweet.) 24-06-2019 03:52:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: (In Max Carnage, EVERYTHING hits all the time.) 24-06-2019 03:52:06 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Nice 24-06-2019 03:52:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: so.. it's a plasma rifle with -1 shots per burst. 24-06-2019 03:53:08 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Ah 24-06-2019 03:53:14 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: That is a problem. 24-06-2019 03:53:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: and it's sitting next to the Grammaton Cleric Beretta, which is a pistol with a full-auto mode that does as much damage as a plasma rifle. 24-06-2019 03:53:49 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Nice. 24-06-2019 03:54:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Otoh, it's fully moddable being a pink weapon. 24-06-2019 03:54:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: the beretta isn't. 24-06-2019 03:55:56 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: What can you do with the mods? 24-06-2019 03:56:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: make stuff better. 24-06-2019 03:57:29 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: But In what way? Like firing rate, damage? 24-06-2019 03:57:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: depends on the kit. 24-06-2019 03:57:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: all of the above, really. 24-06-2019 03:58:15 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Ah. 24-06-2019 04:02:29 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so yeah MJ, the plan me and syv were coming up with for MOOK was having his character clone himself a bunch of times, then killing them all and raising them as zombie minions 24-06-2019 04:02:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: "The former human dies. The former human dies. The former human dies. The former sergeant dies. The former human dies. The former human dies. The former human dies. The former human dies. The barrel explodes! The former human dies. The former sergeant dies. The former human dies. You hear the scream of a freed soul. The former human dies. The former human dies." 24-06-2019 04:04:01 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I think, in considering the system as I walked, that I'll need to make some overall changes 24-06-2019 04:04:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh no~ 24-06-2019 04:04:28 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: issues with the balancing and handling of weapons are connected to the system and limitations in the current set up 24-06-2019 04:04:47 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I need a wider damage band in order to make upgrades meaningful and varied 24-06-2019 04:08:27 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I'm gonna go look at a few things 24-06-2019 04:08:39 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: try to figure out a new way to break things 24-06-2019 04:14:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Soon, midnightjaguar. 24-06-2019 04:15:03 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Cool lemme know 24-06-2019 04:16:07 -!- midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net has quit [Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com] 24-06-2019 04:16:40 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 24-06-2019 04:16:45 -!- midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 24-06-2019 04:17:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: Piecewise, I think the easiest improvement would be to just drop the RL tabletop elements of the game. 24-06-2019 04:17:47 -!- MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 24-06-2019 04:17:58 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: fuck they're multiplying 24-06-2019 04:18:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I'd rather not. 24-06-2019 04:18:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I think that's just the one element you don't like. 24-06-2019 04:18:28 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I do that sometimes ER. 24-06-2019 04:18:45 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: mitosis is a hell of a thing. 24-06-2019 04:19:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: Thinking about it, I'm pretty sure use die start at d4/2 rather than d2 because that way players can physically hold their "magazines", and there's no confusion between d3 (d6/2) and d6. But that's a relic of, well, using physical dice. You're running a PbP forum game, there's little reason to not use a program. 24-06-2019 04:19:12 -!- midnightjaguar!Mutter@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net has quit [Client Quit] 24-06-2019 04:19:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: This also allows you to have a larger damage band. D15 is possible, with no system changes. 24-06-2019 04:20:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: Dev, quiet, you rely on ad hominem too much. I dislike use die, that doesn't mean they aren't flawed, and can't be improved without being gutted. 24-06-2019 04:20:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I suppose that's fair enough. 24-06-2019 04:20:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: although you said I'm wrong because I'm dev earlier. 24-06-2019 04:20:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: and your first suggestion was to gut them. 24-06-2019 04:21:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: Was that during the ER argument? 24-06-2019 04:21:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Nah, just a bit ago. 24-06-2019 04:21:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: 'Dev is bad advice' 24-06-2019 04:21:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: syv, I linked yotta to the IRC logs and he's wondering why your thing says GWG 24-06-2019 04:22:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: No, I said you give bad advice, right after you made an asinine joke that could've been takrn seriously. 24-06-2019 04:22:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Keeping them at 1 and 2 to reduce? 24-06-2019 04:22:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: Because I am GWG. 24-06-2019 04:23:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well yeah, of course, so that's what I told yotta 24-06-2019 04:23:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: Oh, confused it with ER's statement of 1 = double reduction. 24-06-2019 04:24:03 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: heh 24-06-2019 04:24:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: Still, it's bad advice. 50/50 use chance is bad. Also you do give lots of bad advice, because your game preferences aren't aligned with most people's. 24-06-2019 04:25:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I don't think it could have been that bad, given we went what, two missions without it being noticed? 24-06-2019 04:25:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: but you're right, it 'is bad', therefore it needs to change. 24-06-2019 04:25:27 < * Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net sighs. 24-06-2019 04:26:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: An alternative would be making mags cheaper, but I still don't think that makes for good gameplay--having to reload almost as often as you shoot isn't fun. Another fix would be to increase die sizes for weapons, on average. Still, I think it makes most sense to go with digital die that reduce on 1, because it's more intuitive. 24-06-2019 04:26:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: .. 24-06-2019 04:26:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: That's not much of an argument. 24-06-2019 04:26:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: And yes, reducing the die sizes by half if that change is made. -.- 24-06-2019 04:27:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Going to digital dice because they're more intuitive. 24-06-2019 04:27:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: When the odds are exactly the same after the change. 24-06-2019 04:28:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: When a large number of your players misunderstand your rules, that's a pretty good reason to change how the rules work, if the only functional difference is cosmetic. 24-06-2019 04:29:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Also, 1 and 2s are failures in RTD. 24-06-2019 04:29:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: So intuitively, 3's are 'ok' and 1s and 2s are 'bad.' 24-06-2019 04:30:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: And sixes are overshots, and tens are massive, massive overshots. 24-06-2019 04:30:48 -!- Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 24-06-2019 04:30:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: byw pw 24-06-2019 04:31:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Wait, don't leave, we're arguing over subjective matters! 24-06-2019 04:31:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: and for some reason I'm just wrong. 24-06-2019 04:31:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: because dev. 24-06-2019 04:31:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: to be fair, you are 24-06-2019 04:31:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: No I'm not. 24-06-2019 04:31:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: You didn't notice it eitehr. 24-06-2019 04:31:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: are too~ 24-06-2019 04:32:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Sigh. 24-06-2019 04:33:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Also.. 24-06-2019 04:33:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: "When a large number of your players misunderstand your rules, that's a pretty good reason to change how the rules work, if the only functional difference is cosmetic." 24-06-2019 04:33:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: No, you're wrong because you hold a different opinion and don't care about what other people think. If something is intuitive to you, it's not unintuitive, and everyone else is wrong. Paris, myself, and ER all assumed use die to reduce on 1, while you knew it reduced on <3, and only because that's written in the OP. 24-06-2019 04:33:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: I don't know about any of the other players, but nobody commented when Paris made the statement matching that probability, so it's safe to say it's not universally known that use die reduce on <3. 24-06-2019 04:33:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I think it knew it was 1 or 2, but didn't think too hard about it and assumed you knew what you were talking about 24-06-2019 04:34:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I told you the first time you mentioned it in front of me. 24-06-2019 04:34:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I wasn't hiding it. 24-06-2019 04:34:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: It sounds like because you thought the rules were something different, they need to change to match your opinion. 24-06-2019 04:35:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: You quite rightly call me out when I pull that kind of shit. 24-06-2019 04:35:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: Therefore, it's a reasonable statement that it's more intuitive for it to reduce on 1, because a significant rate of players think that's how it works, despite nothing official suggesting that. 24-06-2019 04:36:02 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: counterpoint: do players really need to know what the rules are? 24-06-2019 04:36:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I'd rather stick with the rules as written, unless a gameplay change is going to be made by changing them. 24-06-2019 04:36:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: If you do change it, it should be for some reason other than a couple of people not understanding them. 24-06-2019 04:36:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: 75% of my players in TH don't understand the rules and it still works-ish 24-06-2019 04:36:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: :P 24-06-2019 04:36:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah. 24-06-2019 04:36:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: It can work fine. 24-06-2019 04:37:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: Yeah, players understanding rules is negative just as often as positive. They need to know their options, anything past thay is potentially negative and unlikely to be particularly positive. 24-06-2019 04:37:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also changing the rules now will PROBABLY be painful, because every player will need to change shit 24-06-2019 04:37:59 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: still see unarmored people with d4 life 24-06-2019 04:38:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Of course! We'll all need to rewrite more shit on our char sheets.. 24-06-2019 04:38:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: THAT is a good counterargument, yeah. 24-06-2019 04:38:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: Unarmored is actually d4. 24-06-2019 04:38:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no it was changed 24-06-2019 04:38:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: Life: (Starts d4. If its higher, list the item that makes it so. Like "Life: d6 OMNITECH Riot suit") 24-06-2019 04:38:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: In the OP. 24-06-2019 04:39:07 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: because I complained to PW that shooting someone with a 9mm should have better than even chances to actually hurt them :P 24-06-2019 04:39:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: Best counterargument: Piecewise can't fix his own shit, expecting players to fix it is just craziness. 24-06-2019 04:39:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hm, did he not update his OP? 24-06-2019 04:39:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: He did not. 24-06-2019 04:40:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: (Also, I want it to be as easy as possible for PW.) 24-06-2019 04:40:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "Two stats which aren't listed above are "Life" and "Attack", both start at d2." 24-06-2019 04:40:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: (Changing a few prices, easy. Forgetting stuff? Hard.) 24-06-2019 04:41:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: Check character sheet spoiler. 24-06-2019 04:41:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: He fixed it in one place, not another. 24-06-2019 04:42:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that explains how naturegirl has d4 despite joining long after that change... 24-06-2019 04:43:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Hmm, should also drop all armours one point to match. 24-06-2019 04:43:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ;-p 24-06-2019 04:45:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Eh, I'd rather the rules just be a bit funky but quick and functional. 24-06-2019 04:45:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: They're miles better than ER. 24-06-2019 04:45:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: make armor pickup items in the world 24-06-2019 04:45:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: rather than buyable 24-06-2019 04:45:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: Still say that an easier fix than replacing the use die system would just be to increase the band on things, using die that don't exist. 24-06-2019 04:45:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: just little +1 armor bits scattered everywhere 24-06-2019 04:46:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: They're not miles better than ER, the complexities of the rules were only relevant to the GM there, and they made for a good distribution in the last iteration. Only flaw was the uncapped nature. 24-06-2019 04:47:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: uncapped 24-06-2019 04:47:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: they need little hats 24-06-2019 04:47:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: little goblin hats 24-06-2019 04:47:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: +4 was bad for the system, that's not a goblin thing. 24-06-2019 04:47:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: GOBLIN. 24-06-2019 04:47:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: HATS. 24-06-2019 04:49:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: Otherwise the system was pretty good, IMO. Or at the very least it fits my preferences much more. Mook's is... eh, it's okay. I don't like the distributions and the weakness of d4, and I dislike the level system, but it's not particularly flawed. 24-06-2019 04:49:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: however bad for the system, +4 is cool 24-06-2019 04:49:51 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: cool things are nice 24-06-2019 04:50:29 -!- sy!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 24-06-2019 04:51:08 < sy!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: ...Has it ever been clarified whether 4 on 1d4 is a crit or an overshot? 24-06-2019 04:51:09 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 24-06-2019 04:51:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: multiball time, huh? 24-06-2019 04:51:14 -!- sy is now known as syv 24-06-2019 04:51:29 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I think a 4 on a d4 is a... 4. 24-06-2019 04:51:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: underwhelming success 24-06-2019 04:52:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: I want to say it's just a crit (or success? Crits are the usual result, I guess.), but the literal part of my brain says it should be an overshot because it's max. 24-06-2019 04:54:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: Mook should have use dice for HP. 24-06-2019 04:54:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I just want games to end in death. 24-06-2019 04:54:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: use dice for HP = never get one shotted. 24-06-2019 04:54:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: sofar worse from that point of view. 24-06-2019 04:56:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: Mm, that's fair. I meant more so that armor would degrade, basically having the reactive fabric effect for all equipment. But it means more numbers, yeah. 24-06-2019 04:57:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: And the obvious interpretation of that is that it can't be hit through. -.- 24-06-2019 05:10:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: beaglerush xcom is the best show 24-06-2019 05:12:57 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: Doesn't he only play like one or two missions a night...? 24-06-2019 05:13:41 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: two or three, unless something is really time consuming 24-06-2019 05:14:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: Mm. Getting any ideas for FMD? 24-06-2019 05:14:12 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah he takes 20 minute turns though :P 24-06-2019 05:14:29 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: idea: "does it good" 24-06-2019 05:15:37 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: maybe make stats like accuracy and recoil control tied more to the guns, and characters get smaller bonuses 24-06-2019 05:16:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: Yeah. Most realistic, and gives players more options. 24-06-2019 05:16:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: like rather than have +2 skill, and gun gets +1 in certain circumstance, guns gets +2 in certain curcumstance, you get a +1 for having rifle skill 24-06-2019 05:17:03 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: night 24-06-2019 05:17:12 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: <3 24-06-2019 05:17:16 -!- MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net has left #einsteinianroulette 24-06-2019 05:18:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: see ya. 24-06-2019 05:47:06 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/search/wishes 24-06-2019 05:49:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: "Slowly, but without faltering, SMBC became entirely comics about misbegotten wishes." 24-06-2019 05:50:07 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/one-wish-2 24-06-2019 05:50:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: There's only three comics though, one of which is a dead link...? 24-06-2019 05:50:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: oh god. 24-06-2019 05:50:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/unary 24-06-2019 05:50:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: a couple after 3. 24-06-2019 05:50:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: tags seem to be a work in progress :P 24-06-2019 05:54:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: SMBC is like really good. 24-06-2019 05:54:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: in small doses. 24-06-2019 06:04:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/one-wish-4 24-06-2019 06:04:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Damn. 24-06-2019 06:05:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: What would Pumsy do to that one? 24-06-2019 06:05:33 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you can't blame pumsy for the effects of your wish, only yourself 24-06-2019 06:05:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: because he doesn't grant them, he just, uh, helps. 24-06-2019 06:06:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: It 24-06-2019 06:06:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: 'd work as described. 24-06-2019 06:12:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-troll-toll 24-06-2019 06:14:19 -!- parisbre56[Away] is now known as parisbre56 24-06-2019 06:14:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: Hello, City. 24-06-2019 06:14:56 > parisbre56: sure you can. if he wasn't there you couldn't make a wish. therefore his existence is to blame 24-06-2019 06:15:02 > parisbre56: hello 24-06-2019 06:15:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hallo fucker 24-06-2019 06:15:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: <3 24-06-2019 06:15:29 > parisbre56: that's right. I'm here to fuck 24-06-2019 06:16:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: fuck what, though? 24-06-2019 06:16:32 > parisbre56: with you 24-06-2019 06:16:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so business as usual 24-06-2019 06:16:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/biology 24-06-2019 06:17:00 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: take care not to overdo it though. 24-06-2019 06:17:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: or I'll introduce you to my fren inner monster~ 24-06-2019 06:18:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Heya paris. 24-06-2019 06:18:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/ants 24-06-2019 06:20:18 > parisbre56: hello 24-06-2019 06:20:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I've seen someone in that situation before. 24-06-2019 06:20:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: it's worrying. 24-06-2019 06:20:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: anything going on today? 24-06-2019 06:21:13 > parisbre56: I dunno, let me check my phone 24-06-2019 06:21:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I mostly know what's going on without looking at my phone 24-06-2019 06:25:46 > parisbre56: the heat combined with the elections is driving people crazy around here, I think. roads are full of people driving like crazy 24-06-2019 06:26:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Mmm. 24-06-2019 06:27:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: elections? 24-06-2019 06:27:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Where? 24-06-2019 06:28:34 > parisbre56: well, we just had European Union elections 24-06-2019 06:28:47 > parisbre56: along with regional elections 24-06-2019 06:28:53 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: good old europeen onion 24-06-2019 06:29:01 > parisbre56: and in a few weeks we have national elections 24-06-2019 06:29:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nice timing 24-06-2019 06:29:21 > parisbre56: so everyone is trying to convince you to vote X or Y 24-06-2019 06:29:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: fuck you I'll vote Z 24-06-2019 06:30:07 > parisbre56: yeah, would had been better if they did it all at once, rather than have such a prolonged pre-election period 24-06-2019 06:30:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yow. 24-06-2019 06:30:59 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: isn't the EU having some kind of election-related Fun? 24-06-2019 06:31:44 > parisbre56: yeah, the newly elected parliament is trying to elect a president or some such 24-06-2019 06:32:40 > parisbre56: bureaucracy > 9000 24-06-2019 06:35:17 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@diwfrx-206-717-726-330.mycingular.net has quit [Quit: ???] 24-06-2019 06:42:53 > parisbre56: anyway, I should get back to trying to work. later 24-06-2019 06:42:59 -!- parisbre56 is now known as parisbre56[Away] 24-06-2019 06:43:11 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: suhweet 24-06-2019 06:53:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah. 24-06-2019 07:09:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: welp 24-06-2019 07:09:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I do love your tachell concept. 24-06-2019 07:09:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: both in worldbuilding and in mechanics. 24-06-2019 07:10:32 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: gotta sleep sometime 24-06-2019 07:10:36 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: <3 24-06-2019 07:10:41 -!- ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 24-06-2019 10:47:18 -!- Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net has quit [*.net *.split] 24-06-2019 11:11:00 -!- Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 24-06-2019 12:53:12 -!- Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 24-06-2019 18:36:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Heya Piecewise. 24-06-2019 18:44:58 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: hello 24-06-2019 18:45:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: "an angry dog that cannot feel pain or fear is more than match for basically anyone who isn't holding a shotgun." 24-06-2019 18:45:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I have to wonder if that's based on personal experience. 24-06-2019 18:47:02 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: probably 24-06-2019 19:10:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Goddamn it. 24-06-2019 19:11:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: playing the angel of overconfidence mode where you only have to clear the last eight levels. Had a run that could do it, and got shot into an acid barrel to die from half health. 24-06-2019 19:13:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: There's a fair number of attempts that are basically doomed from the start. 24-06-2019 19:13:51 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Well, no matter your struggles at least you didn't pay an arm and a leg for insured mail only to get a smashed to fuck box 24-06-2019 19:13:55 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: like meeeeee 24-06-2019 19:13:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Damn. 24-06-2019 19:14:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: what happened? 24-06-2019 19:14:09 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: The US postal service I assume 24-06-2019 19:14:35 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Now I gotta file claims and shit 24-06-2019 19:14:37 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: gahhh 24-06-2019 19:30:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: THREE nukes on the same level this time. 24-06-2019 19:59:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: notquitehere's mutation game is pretty good. 24-06-2019 20:03:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I'll go sign up. 24-06-2019 20:17:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Oh. 24-06-2019 20:17:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Piecewise, I was enjoying melee weapons being weaker than ranged ones. 24-06-2019 20:17:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: It made sense because you can defend yourself with a melee weapon, but not a ranged one. 24-06-2019 20:18:26 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Well, we have no rule for not shooting in close range or having disadvantage shooting closer or anything 24-06-2019 20:21:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: yeah, but you can't block a hit by winning the roll without a weapon. 24-06-2019 20:21:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: if you have one, you get to roll melee to defend yourself. 24-06-2019 20:22:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: or is that not how it works? 24-06-2019 20:36:50 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Not that I remember 24-06-2019 20:38:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: oh, ok. 24-06-2019 21:02:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Damn, that's a good start. 24-06-2019 21:02:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: blew a revenant up onto an early lava kill to level up to 2 after two bullets. 24-06-2019 21:31:33 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I didn't know doomrl used wads 24-06-2019 21:31:42 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: attention to detail I guess 24-06-2019 21:32:08 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I'm currently searching for my basic resource wads and DoomRL wads came up 24-06-2019 21:38:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: heh 24-06-2019 21:55:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Oh, that's why there's a special medal for that. 24-06-2019 21:56:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: There's a special reward for killing the end boss with one of the unique pistols. 24-06-2019 22:01:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: It's that way because if you max out all the +damage skills you can stunlock the boss permanently. 24-06-2019 23:01:35 -!- er!androirc@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 24-06-2019 23:02:22 < er!androirc@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Piecewise is it possible to speech roll on PCs in mook to make them do things? 24-06-2019 23:02:42 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: thats a good question 24-06-2019 23:02:44 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Try it 24-06-2019 23:04:08 < er!androirc@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I will. 24-06-2019 23:04:23 < er!androirc@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Unless you update too doon. 24-06-2019 23:04:30 < er!androirc@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Soon 24-06-2019 23:07:02 -!- er!androirc@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 24-06-2019 23:50:31 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: ;)