23-06-2019 00:26:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: 'lo
23-06-2019 00:27:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=174061.msg7986491#msg7986491
23-06-2019 00:28:03 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=173230.msg7986479#msg7986479
23-06-2019 00:30:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: hmm?
23-06-2019 00:30:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: dive to ground level and hide in the grass, clearly.
23-06-2019 00:31:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nobody made any specific orders to do that
23-06-2019 00:31:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I didn't think they'd be necessary.
23-06-2019 00:31:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: dammit.
23-06-2019 00:31:29 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you're also playing as a newborn here
23-06-2019 00:31:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: yeah.
23-06-2019 00:32:06 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you could have gotten away with it if you rolled better, but I'd prefer not to think on your character's behalf~
23-06-2019 00:32:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: yeah, a 3 is pretty bad.
23-06-2019 00:33:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: there might also have been branches and such.
23-06-2019 00:33:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: 3 might just mean 'nothing's here'
23-06-2019 00:34:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nah, this area is all short grass
23-06-2019 00:34:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ..but we're a bug.
23-06-2019 00:35:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: short is relative
23-06-2019 00:35:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: so plenty of room then?
23-06-2019 00:35:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but all the grass is below you now
23-06-2019 00:36:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and bee didn't think of it on her own in 1/5th phase while being shot at
23-06-2019 00:38:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: well, gave those orders.
23-06-2019 02:17:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the problem with having a game with plenty of players and simple writing and mechanics is that it's possible to update it very quickly.
23-06-2019 02:17:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: which means that you *should*.
23-06-2019 02:35:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ok.
23-06-2019 02:35:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: bye.
23-06-2019 02:35:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ;-p
23-06-2019 02:36:02 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no hello
23-06-2019 03:11:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9cuOz9UIAAQtm7.jpg:large
23-06-2019 03:15:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: mmm.
23-06-2019 03:15:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: happy clam.
23-06-2019 03:49:41 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: (I should be more positive like this clam.)
23-06-2019 03:50:55 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg has joined #einsteinianroulette
23-06-2019 03:52:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Hey syv.
23-06-2019 03:52:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: how are things?
23-06-2019 03:52:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hello drive by syv
23-06-2019 03:52:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Hey dev.
23-06-2019 03:52:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: No heya today?
23-06-2019 03:52:49 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Things are ~3/10 for me.
23-06-2019 03:53:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: so better or worse than usual?
23-06-2019 03:53:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well just channel that misery into writing memories and we'll be fine
23-06-2019 03:53:21 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: <3
23-06-2019 03:53:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Worse.
23-06-2019 03:54:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: That's not how it works you little shit.
23-06-2019 03:54:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: (I kid, I like you)
23-06-2019 03:54:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: best quote
23-06-2019 03:54:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yes, a well known quote.
23-06-2019 03:57:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: though, where's it from...?
23-06-2019 03:57:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Irony's avatar?
23-06-2019 03:57:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: dunno where before that.
23-06-2019 03:57:37 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I dunno either
23-06-2019 03:58:33 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: http://i.imgur.com/pfbCcBi.jpg
23-06-2019 03:58:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah who knows
23-06-2019 03:59:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: The thing I like about bunnycat is that he has absolutely no change in pose or facial expression.
23-06-2019 03:59:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: That could be 'YES YES Make a contract with me" and it'd be the same picture.
23-06-2019 04:00:03 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yesh
23-06-2019 04:00:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: It's from a comic where one of the MGs (Pink, I think) asks to make a wish that was a standard gordian knot style wish.  More wishes or something.
23-06-2019 04:00:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well that's pretty much true of most animals
23-06-2019 04:00:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Ahh.
23-06-2019 04:00:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: "I wish for more wishes."
23-06-2019 04:00:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: pumsy would never be so rude, right?
23-06-2019 04:02:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/012/445/baf.png
23-06-2019 04:02:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: who the heck is that
23-06-2019 04:03:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Poorfag?
23-06-2019 04:04:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: No, hair's wrong.  https://wiki.puella-magi.net/Poorfag
23-06-2019 04:04:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I wish that I won't regret wasting this wish.
23-06-2019 04:04:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: see, now there's the best wish
23-06-2019 04:04:47 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no downsides
23-06-2019 04:04:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Sure.
23-06-2019 04:05:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: actually, probably want to wish for not regretting the action of wishing in general
23-06-2019 04:06:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Alida:  "I wish my family had enough money."  "Poof"  "Alida finds herself to now be an only child."
23-06-2019 04:06:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: is sad.
23-06-2019 04:07:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: *Poof* Alida's siblings are now made of solid gold.
23-06-2019 04:09:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Also is sad.
23-06-2019 04:09:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: all wishes end in is sad?
23-06-2019 04:09:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: No, most wishes end in boredom.
23-06-2019 04:10:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: aww.
23-06-2019 04:10:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: the good ones end in is sad?
23-06-2019 04:10:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Sophia's wish was... uh, pretty unhelpful
23-06-2019 04:11:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Yeah.  Make a better one next time.
23-06-2019 04:11:53 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "next time"
23-06-2019 04:12:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: well, die, and then there will be a next time.
23-06-2019 04:15:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Meet ward > Mind control > second wish
23-06-2019 04:15:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yup, go for it.
23-06-2019 04:15:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Maybe that's how the super-witch got to be super-witch.
23-06-2019 04:16:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Super-witch?
23-06-2019 04:16:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: What super-witch?
23-06-2019 04:22:12 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...
23-06-2019 04:22:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: how had I not thought of that, actually
23-06-2019 04:22:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Mm?
23-06-2019 04:22:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: MCing wards?
23-06-2019 04:22:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: MC wish
23-06-2019 04:23:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: though it also sounds like the kind of thing that might provoke Pumsy into saying "that's not how it works you little shit"
23-06-2019 04:23:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I don't know what Pumsy would do.
23-06-2019 04:24:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Has Pumsy ever cursed before?
23-06-2019 04:24:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: shit isn't a real curse
23-06-2019 04:24:59 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also he passed out when I cursed around him so
23-06-2019 04:25:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ..Huh.
23-06-2019 04:25:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: That's odd.
23-06-2019 04:28:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: What is?
23-06-2019 04:29:12 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: HECK
23-06-2019 04:29:14 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: DARN
23-06-2019 04:29:22 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: SHOOT
23-06-2019 04:29:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: FUCK
23-06-2019 04:30:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: wait is that one different
23-06-2019 04:31:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Hello Skello.
23-06-2019 04:32:42 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: skeller
23-06-2019 04:33:01 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Hello
23-06-2019 04:33:21 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: syv, if I make a tactical combat system will you fill it with guns for me?
23-06-2019 04:33:35 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Nothing but SVDs
23-06-2019 04:33:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Yes.
23-06-2019 04:33:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: No.
23-06-2019 04:33:49 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Some STDS
23-06-2019 04:33:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: we sell SVDs and SVD accessories
23-06-2019 04:33:59 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: all of it in POV
23-06-2019 04:34:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: STD accessories.
23-06-2019 04:34:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: I have a list of 44 guns organized by role and manufacturer, Borderlands style, and it's loose enough to adapt into many systems.
23-06-2019 04:34:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: oh, tachell updated.
23-06-2019 04:34:26 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Did you see the video I linked all the way up there by the way sy?
23-06-2019 04:34:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: are they real guns?
23-06-2019 04:34:54 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Yes, probably.  The one where they fire a cartridge, then just show lots of e3 cringe clips?
23-06-2019 04:35:01 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: yeah
23-06-2019 04:35:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: No, ER.  Most are based on real guns though.
23-06-2019 04:35:13 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that works
23-06-2019 04:35:19 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: The firing of the entire cartridge was amusing. 
23-06-2019 04:35:22 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Oh ER
23-06-2019 04:35:42 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: here at apature science, we fire the WHOLE bullet
23-06-2019 04:35:42 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I have a book called the Compendium of contemporary weapons from Palladium
23-06-2019 04:35:52 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: if you need some
23-06-2019 04:35:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Also, ER, I need your birbgame orders.
23-06-2019 04:36:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that's not helpful because I just want syv to do the work for me
23-06-2019 04:36:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: I think I might've seen that?  Which system is it for?  I don't know Palladium's products, offhand.
23-06-2019 04:37:18 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I think its system agnostic to a point, it doesn't have any specific setting stuff as far as I've seen
23-06-2019 04:37:24 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Though it did point me to this
23-06-2019 04:37:25 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: https://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/awm-media/collection/RELAWM30622.007/screen/3828463.JPG
23-06-2019 04:37:36 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Which looks like a tommy gun as made by a drunk man
23-06-2019 04:37:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Noo, the one I'm thinking of is GWD Games, apparently...
23-06-2019 04:38:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Hwh.
23-06-2019 04:38:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: *heh
23-06-2019 04:39:04 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: https://archive.org/details/TheCompendiumOfContemporaryWeapons2E
23-06-2019 04:39:14 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: There's actually a copy of it there
23-06-2019 04:39:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: If it's aussie, it probably is a tommy gun as made by a drunk man.
23-06-2019 04:40:34 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: "I couldn't find the iron sight, see? So I just...*hic*..stuck the magazine there instead. It'll work fiiiine."
23-06-2019 04:40:59 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: aiming is for pussies anyways
23-06-2019 04:42:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah.
23-06-2019 04:42:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Aiming is for people who don't have enough bullets.
23-06-2019 04:42:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmmmm
23-06-2019 04:43:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah but what if we just shot lots of bullets, all accurate?
23-06-2019 04:43:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Then a single MG could block them all with CC4.
23-06-2019 04:44:48 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: You don't need body armor, jus tshoot the bullets out of the air
23-06-2019 04:45:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: yes,
23-06-2019 04:45:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: if CC4 can block you aren't not using big enough bullets
23-06-2019 04:47:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Hmm.
23-06-2019 04:47:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: syv, I know CC4 allows the parrying of bullets.
23-06-2019 04:47:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: What would you think the upper limit to that would be?
23-06-2019 04:47:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Could you parry a CIWS?
23-06-2019 04:48:33 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/471/133/e4f.jpg
23-06-2019 04:48:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Heh.
23-06-2019 04:48:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Depends on what your totem is.  And... range, I guess?  I thought CIWS was super inaccurate, more about throwing what amounts to a net of bullets, that go everywhere, rather than a bunch of bullets that hit accurately.
23-06-2019 04:49:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: I seriously wonder why this book put a scope on the MP5, but not any of the earlier SMGs.
23-06-2019 04:49:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Usually pretty accurate and super fast.
23-06-2019 04:49:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Are there pictures?
23-06-2019 04:49:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: can we block gauss rifles
23-06-2019 04:50:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: maybe that was just the one available.
23-06-2019 04:50:20 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: That version is actually older than the one I have
23-06-2019 04:50:32 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Lemme check if mine still has the mp5 scope
23-06-2019 04:52:23 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Yup
23-06-2019 04:52:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: "Rifles".  First two pages include a GPMG, AR, BRs, and SRs.  Mixed randomly.
23-06-2019 04:52:27 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: giant ass scope too
23-06-2019 04:52:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: It's a thermal scope.
23-06-2019 04:52:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Rifles are a pretty broad category..
23-06-2019 04:53:14 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Also this was written before the internet so they had to use primary sources and ask people and shit
23-06-2019 04:53:21 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: and people are inaccurate
23-06-2019 04:53:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Sweet.
23-06-2019 04:53:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Much better.
23-06-2019 04:53:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Because the internet is also inaccurate.
23-06-2019 04:53:59 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Yes but there's a lot more of it
23-06-2019 04:54:07 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: so you can check more sources
23-06-2019 04:54:22 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: as opposed to just getting your info from the guy running the army surplus store or whatever
23-06-2019 04:54:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Ahhh.  See, that makes this a lot more understandable.  Though, honestly, lumping ALL those into one category is just stupid.  ARs are closer operationally to SMGs than SRs, and any competent soldier should be able to say that much.
23-06-2019 04:55:08 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I mean...its probably good enough for general RPG stuff
23-06-2019 04:55:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Yeah.  More than.
23-06-2019 04:55:21 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: its a big gun what go bang bang relatively fast
23-06-2019 04:55:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: I'm just a nerd.
23-06-2019 04:55:33 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Gun Otaku
23-06-2019 04:58:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: ..Hahaha, WHAT?  I haven't been reading the actual words because they're tiny, and I just did for a couple of the SRs.  The PSG-1, probably the *most* accurate semiauto SR of its time, is listed as having an effective range of 400 meters.  The SVD, an older rifle that was never a particularly accurate weapon, is listed as having an effective range of 1300 meters.
23-06-2019 04:58:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: I have no idea how you could possibly get those numbers, I mean what?
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23-06-2019 05:02:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: pistols are rifles
23-06-2019 05:02:37 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: sophia's sawnoff is a rifle
23-06-2019 05:03:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: By the most literal definition it actually is.  It's rifled, now.
23-06-2019 05:04:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: wasn't before?
23-06-2019 05:04:07 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: just now?
23-06-2019 05:05:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: It was originally smoothbore, and became rifled after Sophia ate Isabella, IIRC.
23-06-2019 05:06:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: huh, that wasn't obvious
23-06-2019 05:06:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Will that happen to the rest of us?
23-06-2019 05:07:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: wonder what about Isabella causes that
23-06-2019 05:07:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the chained scimitar wasn't engraved at all, was it?
23-06-2019 05:08:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Nope.
23-06-2019 05:08:37 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: isabella, why
23-06-2019 05:08:59 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: don't you know that this isn't good for shotgun?
23-06-2019 05:09:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Heh.
23-06-2019 05:09:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: so it made it worse?
23-06-2019 05:09:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: maybe she just really wants me to use slugs?
23-06-2019 05:09:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: are the shells I have slugs? Sophia probably can't tell...
23-06-2019 05:10:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Probably not if they're random.
23-06-2019 05:10:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: random?
23-06-2019 05:11:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Where'd you get the shells?
23-06-2019 05:12:35 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I forgot if I found a box of those
23-06-2019 05:12:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: think I did
23-06-2019 05:13:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: You did.  I think it was two boxes, I have it written down somewhere.
23-06-2019 05:14:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Most likely not slugs, but slugs wouldn't be impossible.
23-06-2019 05:15:28 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: is my auto shotty smoothbore?
23-06-2019 05:17:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: The Saiga?  I'unno.
23-06-2019 05:21:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: The standard model seems to be smoothbore, so yes.
23-06-2019 05:27:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: bird facts!
23-06-2019 05:27:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ..ok?
23-06-2019 05:28:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: (no birbgame orders.)
23-06-2019 05:28:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: bird factsthough
23-06-2019 05:28:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: I could send orders for Birdgame, but I know they wouldn't matter.
23-06-2019 05:29:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I wouldn't mind giving you an update on the situation.
23-06-2019 05:29:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: could do that now if you'd like.
23-06-2019 05:29:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Sure.
23-06-2019 05:42:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: kinda wish scribe had more keep-hold
23-06-2019 05:42:41 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so that I could give him more cool shit for dying
23-06-2019 05:43:29 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: because bird cultist is the perfect mage class but I can't give him much magic at 3/3 corruption
23-06-2019 05:44:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Oh, so higher KH *DOES* give more powers at full demon?
23-06-2019 05:44:12 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah
23-06-2019 05:44:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I suppose you only gain power through dying, so if you can die more, you get more powers.
23-06-2019 05:44:37 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I think you asked it in a wierd way earlier, like comparing 3/3 to 4/3
23-06-2019 05:44:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: or 3+1/3
23-06-2019 05:44:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: 3+i, sorry.
23-06-2019 05:45:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: 1/3 isn't imaginary.
23-06-2019 05:45:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: So what were you saying earlier about that gun game, ER
23-06-2019 05:45:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: ?
23-06-2019 05:45:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Got anything for me?  An estimate on when you will, mayhaps?
23-06-2019 05:47:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'll probably try to make a usable tactical system, ask you to fill it with cool guns, do a test game with just the normal mechanics, then add magic bullcrap for FMD
23-06-2019 05:48:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: This sounds wonderful and I eagerly look forward to its completion!
23-06-2019 05:48:20 < * ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com doesn't know what it's doing
23-06-2019 05:48:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: And I didn't even need to make you watch Black Hawk Down.
23-06-2019 05:48:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Don't worry, you can't do any worse than Aigre.
23-06-2019 05:49:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I probably could if I tried
23-06-2019 05:50:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: I'm honestly not sure if *I* could, even trying.  Aigre's systems have a special mixture of misguided insanity and actuarial fetishism, and it's hard to replicate.
23-06-2019 05:51:00 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: would it be too unreasonable for ballistic armor to act as DR?
23-06-2019 05:51:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: ...
23-06-2019 05:51:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: No.
23-06-2019 05:51:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: like take 1d6 from a pistol, reduced by 3 because of ballistic armor
23-06-2019 05:51:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: I have a lot of words that I'd like to say here, but "no" suffices.
23-06-2019 05:51:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Aigre's systems are utter madness.
23-06-2019 05:51:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: okay great~
23-06-2019 06:00:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I wish I had his help with battlemobs.
23-06-2019 06:00:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: might not have burned out if he'd help with the numbers on turn resolution.
23-06-2019 06:04:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: how does even rules
23-06-2019 06:10:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Write rules by not fucking up.  When that isn't enough, imitate.
23-06-2019 06:10:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: When that isn't enough, steal.
23-06-2019 06:11:35 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I mean, how do I effectively put down the EXCELLENT, PERFECTLY FUNCTIONAL rules I have in my head into text in such a way that people are able to understand?
23-06-2019 06:12:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Type down something that vaugely resembles them, send them to me, I'll ask questions, answer those questions.
23-06-2019 06:12:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ignore that and write about stabbing things.
23-06-2019 06:13:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I do like how "Bird Facts" just says [bird] below it.
23-06-2019 06:14:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: have questions yet?
23-06-2019 06:14:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Hmm, half the clay vanished.
23-06-2019 06:15:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Nah, last time I asked some you didn't give any answers, so ima just gonna speculate.
23-06-2019 06:15:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: kinda needs me to copy some of TH's guts into it, but nevigating TH's guts is actually hard
23-06-2019 06:15:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Hmm.
23-06-2019 06:15:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: (asking if syv has questions ;P)
23-06-2019 06:15:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Can the guy put the 3 statups into Keep Hold?
23-06-2019 06:16:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you don't get questions, you're not in TH~
23-06-2019 06:16:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: well, it's a fair question..
23-06-2019 06:16:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: because if you get one stat per corruption point, you could concievably keep it up forever.
23-06-2019 06:17:11 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: It's not like hell is going to reincarnate you when you're already a demon
23-06-2019 06:17:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Ahh.
23-06-2019 06:17:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: so yes, but no point in doing so if you max it.
23-06-2019 06:22:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Questions: what's base vitality/resolve/lucidity/stamina?  How do firearms work?  Is recoil a thing?  Mobility?  Damage?  Accuracy?
23-06-2019 06:23:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: base vit is 4 for adults, and can go up to 5 for very fit people.
23-06-2019 06:23:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Does item weight matter?  How does speed work?
23-06-2019 06:23:35 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: resolve, lucidity, stamina... uh, 4 base is good
23-06-2019 06:23:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: firearms shoot people and then they die, hopefully
23-06-2019 06:26:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: item weight... let's see, maybe add an extra digit from TH, every 10 units you lose 1 stamina
23-06-2019 06:28:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: carefully aiming with a firearm before shooting gives a real hefty bonus to hit, +2 or +3
23-06-2019 06:28:39 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Some method of making recoil matter would be a good idea, if you want me to make the gunlist.  Same for accuracy.
23-06-2019 06:29:42 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: 3d6 doesn't really like having too many modifiers to rolls...
23-06-2019 06:36:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: what does recoil really mean in a PbP system?
23-06-2019 06:37:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Build.
23-06-2019 06:37:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Like most numbers, really.  :P
23-06-2019 06:38:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: then someone like you shows up and figures out which build has the best numbers
23-06-2019 06:38:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Accuracy can be handled by range increments; accurate guns can shoot farther without penalties.  Recoil is harder, especially if it has no stat relevance, but can easily work as a RoF mechanic that's mitigable with equipment or tactics.  All guns have max RoF/min recoil with a bipod, say.
23-06-2019 06:39:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Alternatively, a risk/reward mechanic.  "Autofire gives an acc penalty tied to recoil.  If you're really really accurate, this may be worth it."  I'd just tie it to poise, though.
23-06-2019 06:43:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ughhhh
23-06-2019 06:43:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: sleepy now
23-06-2019 06:43:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg: Then go to sleep.
23-06-2019 06:43:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: tiiiired
23-06-2019 06:44:37 -!- ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
23-06-2019 06:46:38 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@72.168.lny.jxg has quit [Quit: ???]
23-06-2019 06:46:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: aww
23-06-2019 06:46:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ok.
23-06-2019 06:46:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: see ya.
23-06-2019 13:51:20 -!- Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net has joined #einsteinianroulette
23-06-2019 15:43:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Heya Piecewise.
23-06-2019 15:43:22 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: hello
23-06-2019 15:43:59 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: How goes?
23-06-2019 15:45:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ok.
23-06-2019 15:45:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: still sleepy, so going back to bed.
23-06-2019 15:45:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: soonish.
23-06-2019 15:46:42 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Okie dokie
23-06-2019 15:46:46 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Doing posts now
23-06-2019 15:47:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ooh.
23-06-2019 15:47:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: which ones?
23-06-2019 15:48:24 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Cabal and Dig
23-06-2019 15:52:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: am wondering if I'm missing something obvious about the crashed airship.
23-06-2019 15:52:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: other than the cannons, which seem ok but I don't really want too much.
23-06-2019 15:53:50 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I mean, sometimes there just aren't things you'd like
23-06-2019 15:54:06 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Its basically a clockwork warship, if you don't want clockwork then its not got much
23-06-2019 15:54:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: yeah.
23-06-2019 15:54:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: that's life.
23-06-2019 15:55:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I mean, a clockwork word would be nice, but I don't have room for that too.
23-06-2019 15:55:55 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Probably won't find it in those things
23-06-2019 15:56:05 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: they're pretty anti-magic, in a way
23-06-2019 15:56:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: hmm.
23-06-2019 15:57:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: had the magic removed from them?
23-06-2019 15:57:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: or because theres no life?
23-06-2019 16:01:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: RC with the last minute orders.
23-06-2019 16:17:42 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: heh
23-06-2019 19:44:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Mmm, seperated.
23-06-2019 19:44:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Going to be fun bookkeeping, as to who has what.
23-06-2019 19:54:34 -!- syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr has joined #einsteinianroulette
23-06-2019 19:54:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Heya syv.
23-06-2019 19:54:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Heya dev.
23-06-2019 19:56:56 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: "[The OCSW] it had the same laser targeting system as the XM29 OICW, but was intended to supplement the 40 mm Mk 19 grenade launcher and the .50 M2 Browning machine gun."
23-06-2019 19:58:04 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I think this might mean the US military was trying to create a crew-served dual-purpose .50 BMG and 40mm autocannon.
23-06-2019 19:58:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: okay.
23-06-2019 19:58:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Unsurprisingly, it very much failed, but thw concept is hilarious all the same
23-06-2019 19:58:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: They seem different roles.
23-06-2019 19:58:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: or maybe they just had lots of the targetting systems.
23-06-2019 19:59:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: They are, and they aren't.  Both do have the role of "fuck over everyone and everything in that general direction", with one just being a bit more indiscriminate, but combining the two doesn't really serve much purpose, yeah.
23-06-2019 20:00:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Well.. one you can move with a few soldiers on foot.
23-06-2019 20:00:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: one you can't.
23-06-2019 20:00:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Eh?
23-06-2019 20:00:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: 40mm autocannon isn't really manportable.
23-06-2019 20:01:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: oh, a 40mm grenade launcher.
23-06-2019 20:01:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Sure it is.  About the same weight as the M2.
23-06-2019 20:01:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Fine, yeah, wrong word.
23-06-2019 20:01:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: very different things, those.
23-06-2019 20:02:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: They were calling the OCSW an autocannon, which got me mixed up.  I don't really see why, it's a GMG as far as I can tell.
23-06-2019 20:07:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: But yeah, they were probably just trying to adapt the XM29's airburst tech to be usable with 40mm and .50 BMG, which is kinda odd since I don't think .50 could really work as an airbursting explosive, but hey.  It'd be scary if it worked.
23-06-2019 20:08:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Ahh, I see.  The .50 gun can convert to the 40mm airbursting gun with only a few changed parts.
23-06-2019 20:17:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: What kind of guns are those, Piecewise?  Just cannon?  And if so, how large?
23-06-2019 20:18:13 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Mostly machineguns. Think WWII bomber guns
23-06-2019 20:18:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: !
23-06-2019 20:20:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Definately !
23-06-2019 20:20:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: way more useful and valuable than cannon.
23-06-2019 20:24:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Are they mountable on Benedict?
23-06-2019 20:25:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Machine guns?  Most definately.
23-06-2019 20:25:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: he's elephant-sized.
23-06-2019 20:25:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Piecewise, how much ammo is there?
23-06-2019 20:26:30 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: tons
23-06-2019 20:26:35 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: boxes on each gun
23-06-2019 20:26:50 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: they're belt fed
23-06-2019 20:27:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Well, I have giant bird, should be able to just rip them out, lack of tools or no.
23-06-2019 20:28:10 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Mmm.  Could they be man-portable with sufficient strength/modifications?
23-06-2019 20:28:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I have a Grow and Strenghten spell, so yes.
23-06-2019 20:28:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Tempted to rejoin Cabal just to play a gunner character who teams up with Saeko.
23-06-2019 20:29:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Well, there's going to be a few mercs in the town I'm going to.
23-06-2019 20:29:15 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I'm honestly surprised you aren't still playing. 
23-06-2019 20:29:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: no reason one of said mercs can't be a mage.
23-06-2019 20:30:42 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I lost interest when my entire team and the only real opposition team both dissolved, because manipulating NPCs is harder and less interesting.  Since then I just haven't read up on the game to resume.
23-06-2019 20:31:24 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I've been meaning to for a long time, because SOMEONE should try for conquest, but time management isn't a skill I have.
23-06-2019 20:31:30 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: We had a combo paddleboat/breaking wheel
23-06-2019 20:31:52 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: And RC got lost in caves for like 6 months
23-06-2019 20:32:13 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Breaking wheel?  Like the torture/execution device?  In a... paddleboat...?
23-06-2019 20:32:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I've been wandering around having PW wonder why I'm not actively trying to gain power.  ;-p
23-06-2019 20:32:35 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Yes, the paddles were giant breaking wheels that had pirates executed on them
23-06-2019 20:32:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Huh.  Neat.
23-06-2019 20:32:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Oh, and you had slime town destroyed.
23-06-2019 20:33:47 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Lenglon got a weapon of godly strength and so far has used it mostly as a fire extinguisher 
23-06-2019 20:35:27 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: http://i.imgur.com/ep3gv.jpg
23-06-2019 20:35:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: ?
23-06-2019 20:42:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Also, what's a gyrotourbillon?
23-06-2019 20:45:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: As far as I can tell from some quick googling, a marketing tactic made by a watch company to make their watches sound fancier.
23-06-2019 20:49:01 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDE_oqEuyxM
23-06-2019 20:49:32 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I mean, honestly anything that isn't a 4 dollar digital watch is a marketing tactic to make watches sound fancier and cost more
23-06-2019 20:49:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: fair enough.
23-06-2019 20:49:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: so just a thing for show or is there use on it?
23-06-2019 20:50:33 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Its an escapement
23-06-2019 20:50:50 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: its the time keeping element
23-06-2019 20:51:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: mmm
23-06-2019 20:51:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah.  A tourbillon is a device that rotates segments of the watch which I don't understand, to minimize the effects of gravity on them when held in certain ways.  It works because all the parts are constantly rotated, averaging out the effects of gravity on all the pieces.  Normal tourbillons are two-dimensional; flat, rotating around one axis.  A gyrotourbillon rotates around two axes, and is more spherical.  This comes at dubious benefit, as
23-06-2019 20:51:27 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: The gyro just means it spins around and looks fancy
23-06-2019 20:52:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Mmm.
23-06-2019 20:52:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: should be very ornate.
23-06-2019 20:52:26 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I'm sure they say it has benefits but I wouldn't be surprised if its a tiny fractional benefit over the course of years
23-06-2019 20:52:32 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: The wikipedia page at one place says it's three axis, actually.  Later says the "gyrotourbillon I" was two axis.  Maybe both are true.
23-06-2019 20:52:59 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: but most watches that have it cost as much as a car so...
23-06-2019 20:53:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I can get the pellets out of the boiler, but radioactivity sucks.
23-06-2019 20:53:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Rather not die.
23-06-2019 20:53:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I wonder if it counts seconds more accurately than my phone.
23-06-2019 20:53:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: No way in hell.
23-06-2019 20:53:50 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Heh.
23-06-2019 20:54:01 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I assume that phones are hooked up to atomic clocks
23-06-2019 20:54:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Nope.
23-06-2019 20:54:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: they just double check one all the time.
23-06-2019 20:54:30 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: yes but the source they're double checking
23-06-2019 20:54:46 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I'm pretty sure GPS uses atomic clocks 
23-06-2019 20:54:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Is a NTP signal of some kind.
23-06-2019 20:54:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: and yeah.
23-06-2019 20:55:02 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I get what you're doing here Dev
23-06-2019 20:55:07 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: counterpoint
23-06-2019 20:55:11 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: FUG U
23-06-2019 20:55:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Heh.
23-06-2019 20:56:02 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip-scale_atomic_clock
23-06-2019 20:56:09 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Where is my wrist mounted atomic clock?
23-06-2019 20:56:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Huh, nifty.
23-06-2019 20:56:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: also expensive.
23-06-2019 20:56:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: so your phone doesn't have one.
23-06-2019 20:57:20 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I mean, they say one the size of a pack of cards costs 3000
23-06-2019 20:57:49 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Now enter gyrotourbillon into google's shopping search
23-06-2019 20:57:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: didn't know about those.
23-06-2019 20:58:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah, I just checked to be sure, I would be super surprised if my phone had an atomic clock.  Androids (what I use) apparently just have an internal quartz clock, and check it against the cellular network's clock.  Which I presume is checked against an atomic clock somewhere down the line.
23-06-2019 20:58:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I think the article says the previous ones were the size of a pack of cards and cost 3000.
23-06-2019 20:58:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: so these are smaller.
23-06-2019 20:58:28 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: yes but
23-06-2019 20:58:46 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: The first return for a watch with a gyrotourbillon is 294,000.000
23-06-2019 20:58:55 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: I doubt its more expensive than that
23-06-2019 20:59:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: yow.
23-06-2019 20:59:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Military project, though.
23-06-2019 20:59:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: lotta guys padding the cost there, usually.
23-06-2019 20:59:29 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: 10,000 hammer
23-06-2019 20:59:34 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: dollar hammer 
23-06-2019 21:00:46 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Doing my first dosimetry shadowing on tuesday
23-06-2019 21:00:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ooh, nifty.
23-06-2019 21:03:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I found an article which is saying that the tourbillon is probably just around useless, and possibly negative, due to it requiring a heavier mainspring to rotate the larger assembly.  This implies a gyrotourbillon, if anything, would be worse than a regular tourbillon for the purposes of accurate timekeeping.
23-06-2019 21:03:31 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: So it's essentially a masturbatory device for watchmakers.
23-06-2019 21:04:08 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: indeed
23-06-2019 21:04:14 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: but it does look nice doesn't it?
23-06-2019 21:04:20 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: and it is valuable treasure
23-06-2019 21:04:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ok.
23-06-2019 21:04:38 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Meh.  Would work better if it had tits.
23-06-2019 21:04:54 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: what wouldn't
23-06-2019 21:05:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Probably try to pack up two or three machine guns, then the gyrotourbillon.
23-06-2019 21:05:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: then maybe try for the radioactive pellets.
23-06-2019 21:05:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Only two or three?  :(
23-06-2019 21:05:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Benedict could probably take a lot, yeah.
23-06-2019 21:05:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: but I don't know how many I can rip out semi-intactly.
23-06-2019 21:05:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: my birb is not a precision instrument.
23-06-2019 21:06:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: What animals is it a hybrid of?
23-06-2019 21:06:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: cougar/red-tailed hawk.
23-06-2019 21:06:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Yeah.
23-06-2019 21:12:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: The MG's also need modification.
23-06-2019 21:12:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: they're fired by something.
23-06-2019 21:13:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Piecewise, are the MGs clockwork or propellant based?
23-06-2019 21:13:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: propellant, presumably.
23-06-2019 21:13:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: clockwork doesn't reall work for bullets.
23-06-2019 21:14:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: There's no trigger, though.
23-06-2019 21:14:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: He's made games with clockwork-only guns, before.
23-06-2019 21:15:15 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, your character is a magical girl who rides an elephant-sized gryphon.  I bet clockwork guns work.  :P
23-06-2019 21:16:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: She can't be a MG because she does not sparkle.
23-06-2019 21:16:43 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: Propellant 
23-06-2019 21:17:01 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yay
23-06-2019 21:17:15 < Piecewise!Piecewise@35-436-87-22.lsv8.qwest.net: The actual clockwork guns that group use are rather different
23-06-2019 21:21:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Hmph, nah, passing on the pellets.  I'd want a steel word to make a proper box.. don't have a container ready.
23-06-2019 21:23:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: or the magic to make oen.
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23-06-2019 21:24:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Also, any idea what the woven fabric might be, syv?
23-06-2019 21:24:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I'm taking that.
23-06-2019 21:25:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: You could just make a giant tumor of ape flesh to contain the pellets.
23-06-2019 21:25:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Also need a word.
23-06-2019 21:25:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: and yes, that'd work.
23-06-2019 21:25:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Water is great at absorbing radiation, and flesh is mostly water.
23-06-2019 21:25:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: still need mana to do that, though.
23-06-2019 21:25:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: 1 mana isn't enough.
23-06-2019 21:25:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Ahhh.
23-06-2019 21:25:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah.
23-06-2019 21:25:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: No clue what you're referring to with "woven fabric"
23-06-2019 21:27:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Oh, it's not fabric.
23-06-2019 21:27:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: "some kind of odd metal that kind of looks like woven black fabric but is as hard as steel."
23-06-2019 21:28:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ..wait a sec.
23-06-2019 21:28:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: is that black biometal?
23-06-2019 21:29:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ...
23-06-2019 21:30:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Go yell at Kit in Tactical Hell to pick the new stats.
23-06-2019 21:31:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I gotta head out.
23-06-2019 21:33:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Sounds kinda like biometal, yeah.  Or battleplate from ER.  Kinda ambiguous really.
23-06-2019 21:36:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I thought that was a composite.
23-06-2019 21:37:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Don't think so, it was woven with some scifi reflective metal strands IIRC.  Hex composite was composite, but was entirely different stuff.
23-06-2019 21:38:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Hex composite was space magic, so it could do everything.
23-06-2019 21:38:14 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: "The first three are made of some sort of metal meta-material which has been mixed with untold thousands of hair thin metallic fibers, like fiberglass. These fibers are so prevalent and reflective that they cause lasers to deflect and have difficulty focusing on an specific point, acting as insulation as well as greatly reinforcing the metal. "
23-06-2019 21:38:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: It was all scifi magic, really.
23-06-2019 21:38:44 < * Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net grumbles about how you guys never needed an upgrade..
23-06-2019 21:38:55 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr shrugs
23-06-2019 21:39:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: eh.
23-06-2019 21:39:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: We didn't really get upgrades, our armor mostly made us invincible unless we got hit with fiat attacks, and our attacks mostly killed whatever we shot unless it was fiat tough.
23-06-2019 21:40:09 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Things getting cheaper were the only true upgrades, and generally they got more expensive unless they were things PW just threw at us.
23-06-2019 21:40:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: or people were pulling accounting tricks.
23-06-2019 21:41:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: If you want to accuse Ao of corruption, go right ahead.  He might find it a little odd, being accused of corruption in a forum game years after the fact, but it's not problem.
23-06-2019 21:41:33 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: *my problem
23-06-2019 21:41:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Wasn't thinking of Ao there.
23-06-2019 21:41:52 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: But he was our accountant!  What, is Radio the root of all evil now?
23-06-2019 21:41:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Nah, it wasn't either of them.
23-06-2019 21:42:17 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Me?
23-06-2019 21:42:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Who was the guy who wanted to take the combo-suits apart and reduce the price by the price of all the component parts?
23-06-2019 21:43:12 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Uhhh.  I don't recall that... do you mean the MK.3's rocket packs?  I think there was an attempt to sell just the flight bits, yeah.  Sean did most of that work, but generally wanted to make more intriciate combo suits, rather than divide it up.
23-06-2019 21:43:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah, was Sean.
23-06-2019 21:45:44 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Honestly, that's pretty reasonable.  The MK3 had a bunch of features aside from the rocket packs, reducing the price a bit just for the flight capability wasn't at all unreasonable.  Though, again, I think he ended up trying to add armor to it by default, rather than just selling the flight.
23-06-2019 21:46:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: It wasn't that, it was the more expensive assaultsuit varients.
23-06-2019 21:46:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: take a 10 token gun out, cut the price by 10 to 30.
23-06-2019 21:46:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: take another 7 token feature out, call it 23.
23-06-2019 21:46:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: repeat until you have a blank assaultsuit for like 5 tokens.
23-06-2019 21:47:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: or -5 tokens or something like that.
23-06-2019 21:47:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Ohhh.  Yeah, that.  That's because of how Piecewise handled combo packs.  If you spend 20 tokens on a bunch of ten token stuff, you'd get like 60 tokens worth of ten token items.  That was why a full battlesuit came with five layers of armor and a giant robot body, when just one layer of human-sized BS plate was like 10 tokens.
23-06-2019 21:48:43 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: There was never any attempt to sell a stripped BS for five tokens.  Most egregious thing was the HRB, 100% my idea, and the price savings came from armoring just a braincase rather than an entire cockpit/
23-06-2019 21:48:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: It was also a fair bit more expensive than that.
23-06-2019 21:49:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Maybe it didn't get approved, then.  I remember arguing about it a bunch.
23-06-2019 21:49:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I do remember it wasn't a BS.  It was the better, cheaper, more magical AS.
23-06-2019 21:50:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Nothing came of it anwyay.
23-06-2019 21:50:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah, yeah, the HRB was a shrunken AS.  AS and BS were functionally the same thing anyway, despite all the magic.
23-06-2019 21:51:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: The only relevant difference there was that the HRB could fit through a door, which an equivalently armored BS-armored robot wouldn't be able to do.
23-06-2019 21:52:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, are you sure you aren't thinking of the 2PEW AS variant, which stuck a massively expensive gun into the AS, while increasing the price like four tokens per gun?
23-06-2019 21:52:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Because that got approved and was a genuinely great idea.
23-06-2019 21:52:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Could be.
23-06-2019 21:52:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Also terrible idea.
23-06-2019 21:52:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Also also still irrelevatn.
23-06-2019 21:53:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: And, in a rarity for tinker weapon design, was actually useful beyond being a big gun.  It was an effective excavation device, unlike the basic gauss rifle.
23-06-2019 21:54:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: And could still hit and severely damage the general "heavy" targets, unlike the cutlas.
23-06-2019 21:55:05 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Probably still too expensive to be useful, I'd guess partially due to your interference, but hey.  We didn't really *need* to get nice things.
23-06-2019 21:55:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Could clear everything with a squad of five-token newbies, assuming you get a +2 amp user.
23-06-2019 21:56:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: man, that annoyed RC a lot.
23-06-2019 21:56:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: going through the supervet M27 and describing a bunch of ways it could be tackled.
23-06-2019 21:57:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I have the distinct feeling it annoyed him more for the fact that the mission was already done, and the only purpose of the mission was to let people have fun, and not to be a genuine challenge.
23-06-2019 21:57:59 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: You *are* the sort to argue about this years after the fact.  Was it argued at the time, or only later?
23-06-2019 21:58:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: About a year ago.
23-06-2019 21:58:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: RC was saying how that was a mission that really needed the vets to do it.
23-06-2019 21:58:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeaaah.
23-06-2019 21:59:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'm now completely sure that the annoying part was the fact that the game was long dead, at the time.
23-06-2019 21:59:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, you are missing the point that vets were necessary more for the reason of not being complete idiots.
23-06-2019 21:59:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Which I will assume was Radio's point because that's most convenient for me.
23-06-2019 22:00:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Eh.
23-06-2019 22:00:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: He did mention specifically the shielded shuttles being something that couldn't be done.
23-06-2019 22:01:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: That actually might be true.  Really depends on how nice Dubs felt for the ampers.
23-06-2019 22:01:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: A low-level amp use took a couple down.
23-06-2019 22:01:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Another kill was gotten by splashing water into the air in front of them.
23-06-2019 22:02:03 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hah
23-06-2019 22:02:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: (both possible by 5 token newbies..)
23-06-2019 22:02:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I also suggested that the remote control nature of them would also probably mean a guy with +2 aux and a drone could hack one into another.
23-06-2019 22:03:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: You do realize these still require competent players who try something more sane than "run towards them while screaming and firing my gauss rifle at them"?
23-06-2019 22:04:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: No, not really.
23-06-2019 22:04:21 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, like, putting +2 in a relevant skill, and remembering to use it.
23-06-2019 22:04:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Because the mission ended before any of the shuttles reached the target.
23-06-2019 22:05:11 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Gah, I recall that, like, the majority of the newbies needed to be directly called out and advised on how to build their chars.  Even after we wrote guides and tools with attached guides.
23-06-2019 22:05:25 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: And still did stupid stupid shit.
23-06-2019 22:05:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: But you didn't need to be told how to build your char!
23-06-2019 22:05:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ..another one went down due to conventional fire.  I think the automanips only protected them from direct amp use.
23-06-2019 22:06:02 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Well yeah, I'm a munchkin.  Also I died twice on my first mission, while doing nothing helpful and actually disabling my whole team the entire time.
23-06-2019 22:06:18 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'm not good support for your point that newbies can do anything.
23-06-2019 22:06:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Did you die permanently?
23-06-2019 22:06:40 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Putting a bunch of newbies on a planet with the mission goal of "don't kill yourself" is already a lot to ask.
23-06-2019 22:06:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Of course!
23-06-2019 22:07:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: My char got revived, shipped to Hephaestus, and then ceased to interact with the gameworld in any meaningful manner.  Isn't that permanent death?
23-06-2019 22:08:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: No, not really.
23-06-2019 22:09:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: speaking as someone who went through those exact things.
23-06-2019 22:09:30 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Heh.
23-06-2019 22:10:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Empiricist was too stupid to betray..
23-06-2019 22:10:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: "How can you say that Steve is taking over things, here on this planet that you helped take over in the name of Steve?"
23-06-2019 22:10:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Heh, don't call Emp stupid!  Especially not for that.
23-06-2019 22:11:00 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: He wasn't clever, but he was average at worst. >:|
23-06-2019 22:11:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Never should have joined the committee.
23-06-2019 22:11:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I think PW said once that was when he stopped rolling for escapes.
23-06-2019 22:11:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: or not 'rolling'
23-06-2019 22:11:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: plotting them out.
23-06-2019 22:11:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Agreed!
23-06-2019 22:12:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I think he was going to get out when the power went out and someone was trundling around on Hep, but that player quit posting then, so Leo never escaped.
23-06-2019 22:12:19 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Your entire goal in the game was to make people not have fun, it was idiotic to let you into a group whose goal was to keep other players from not ruining people's fun.
23-06-2019 22:13:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: That wasn't my goal..
23-06-2019 22:13:20 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yes it was.
23-06-2019 22:14:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Or the goal of the committee.
23-06-2019 22:15:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: My goal was to play it wrong by escaping from captivity, which lead to me making a character who wanted to escape.
23-06-2019 22:15:41 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: The goal of the committee was to control power creep and weapon balance do that it'd be reasonable and wouldn't break the game, thus ruining people's fun.
23-06-2019 22:16:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: The goal of the committee was to ease PW's burden by reading all the tinker posts and suggestions and debating about them down to a few short lines.
23-06-2019 22:16:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Upon which they got approved, and people then didn't actually buy them because the gear was unnecessary, unless RC spend the team fund to give people them.
23-06-2019 22:17:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: The work for powercreep was silly because PW would hand out stuff more powerful than the stuff people designed after each mission cycle.
23-06-2019 22:17:55 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Well, yes, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't the purpose.
23-06-2019 22:18:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Just like you; expected to do one thing, doing something entirely different, because that's what you felt like doing.
23-06-2019 22:18:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: What didn't happen that you wanted, anyway?
23-06-2019 22:19:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: You did have your EMG shot down due to a lack of cooling, but then were handing a perfect cooling artifact next cycle, so could have made it then.
23-06-2019 22:19:36 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Making a bunch of completely OP items that removed all the challenge from the game.  This, of course, was impossible, as the game had no challenge to begin with~
23-06-2019 22:19:45 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: EMG?  What?
23-06-2019 22:19:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Energy machine gun.
23-06-2019 22:20:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: was that not you?
23-06-2019 22:20:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I thought that was one of your things.
23-06-2019 22:20:08 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I never made an energy machine gun?
23-06-2019 22:20:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ok.
23-06-2019 22:20:34 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Sean made the... Spektr multi-spectrum laser rifle, and a heavier version that I forgot the name of.
23-06-2019 22:20:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: and the spaceships.
23-06-2019 22:20:47 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: My flagship weapons were the Testament and Doctrine, which gor approved fine.
23-06-2019 22:20:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: and the super battleships.
23-06-2019 22:20:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: and the assaultsuits..
23-06-2019 22:21:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: what did get shot down by the committee again?
23-06-2019 22:21:28 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh, none of those ships ever mattered for anything.  They were just a dude having fun working on stuff in a neat scifi setting, but that's playing the game wrong, I guess.
23-06-2019 22:21:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Eh.
23-06-2019 22:22:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Would have been nice seeing them stop working after space magic got fucked, and requiring new designs.
23-06-2019 22:22:35 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Honestly I don't even recall.  I don't think the committee did bad things too much.  The only point I'm trying to make is that you were, and still are, an asshole whenever ER (the game) is involved.
23-06-2019 22:22:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah.
23-06-2019 22:23:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Now if only there was something in game for me to do..
23-06-2019 22:23:37 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: You said it yourself, the game was something you *couldn't* play without ruining it for others.
23-06-2019 22:23:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Well, only after the revolution.
23-06-2019 22:23:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Before it would have been fine.
23-06-2019 22:24:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I mean, I did spend quite some time reading about the adventures of idiot prisoners in space and planned on playing a prisoner in space.
23-06-2019 22:25:51 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Then you should've joined before that, rather than joining a game in which your only actions would be to ruin it for others.
23-06-2019 22:26:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I did join before the revolution.
23-06-2019 22:26:29 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I mean, really, your only solid complaint is that PW is bad at supporting a PvP playstyle in an almost wholly cooperative game.  Which he even tried to do!
23-06-2019 22:27:07 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Otherwise, it's just a bunch of stuff that amounts to "I dislike this and I'm upset that everyone else doesn't agree with me!"
23-06-2019 22:27:30 < * Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net shrugs.
23-06-2019 22:27:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: maybe if the premise didn't change immediately before my first mission.
23-06-2019 22:27:54 < * syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr shrugs
23-06-2019 22:28:06 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Bad luck.  You really should've known when to quit, though.
23-06-2019 22:28:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Blame toaster.
23-06-2019 22:28:26 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I guess it's pretty obvious that you don't know that, considering this argument.  :P
23-06-2019 22:28:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I sorta did quit but he PMed everyone with a character who didn't get a timeskip level up to remind everyone.
23-06-2019 22:28:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: But yeah, that's not a requirement to get back in.
23-06-2019 22:29:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: and I should have ignored it.
23-06-2019 22:29:46 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Damn Toaster, too nice for everyone's good.  :P
23-06-2019 22:29:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Instead I got irritated at that and decided to kill off that character so I could stop thinking about him.
23-06-2019 22:30:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Except that failed because I wasn't hands on enough with doing it.
23-06-2019 22:30:16 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: He just wanted to help out some people, instead he summoned the ultimate, ageless goblin.
23-06-2019 22:30:48 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Though I suppose I'm happy for it.  I wouldn't know you if it weren't for that.
23-06-2019 22:30:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I like Toaster.
23-06-2019 22:30:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Toaster meant well.
23-06-2019 22:30:58 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'm happy with blaming Toaster for that, yeah.
23-06-2019 22:31:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: it's just that, at least then, nobody really got that I was angry with the game and didn't want to read about it, think about it, or play it.
23-06-2019 22:32:22 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: You are kinda bad at expressing such things in a reasonable timeframe.
23-06-2019 22:33:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I wasn't secretive about it.
23-06-2019 22:33:23 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, broadly, people are pretty bad at understanding the nuances of other people's feelings, especially during leisure activities.
23-06-2019 22:33:53 < syv!GreatWyrmG@104.136.rzg.vsr: The only one who has that job is the GM, and arguably Radio, since in many ways he was an assistant GM, but there were far too many players for even the two of them.
23-06-2019 22:34:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah.