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02-05-2019 02:15:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: https://youtu.be/aaw2ldhoUZo
02-05-2019 02:50:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: heya ER.
02-05-2019 02:52:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hi
02-05-2019 03:04:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: anything today?
02-05-2019 03:05:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nope!
02-05-2019 03:07:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: PW's been idle../
02-05-2019 03:07:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: I'm too tired to do birbgame.
02-05-2019 03:07:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: work's been busy.
02-05-2019 03:07:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: had a stuck steam trap today.
02-05-2019 03:12:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: "In mathematics, fame means that once every century someone will look you up in an obscure book."
02-05-2019 03:12:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: indeed
02-05-2019 03:27:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Yes.
02-05-2019 04:57:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: aww, no syv.
02-05-2019 05:11:29 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no more syv
02-05-2019 05:13:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: oh, you got his body in your trunk?
02-05-2019 05:13:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I don't have one of those
02-05-2019 05:14:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I stuck him in a hyperbolic time chamber so that he could write infinite PS content in finite time from our perspective.
02-05-2019 05:15:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Lemme guess, that slammed the server.
02-05-2019 05:15:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: or you got 18,000 PM messages from him about tachell.
02-05-2019 05:16:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nah, I just still have to wait 12 months for him to finish
02-05-2019 05:16:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: turns out "infinite content in finite time" still takes finite time.
02-05-2019 05:18:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Heh.
02-05-2019 06:02:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: https://youtu.be/aM3VGoI62As
02-05-2019 06:12:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Oh man, the worst song in DKC.
02-05-2019 06:12:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XziA0L2zmBg
02-05-2019 06:13:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ah, the k.rool montage music ;P
02-05-2019 06:13:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah.
02-05-2019 06:13:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: God, what a bad song.
02-05-2019 06:23:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Sadly all I link are chiptunes..
02-05-2019 06:23:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: ones you've already heard.
02-05-2019 06:24:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: https://youtu.be/r0YebcgbJwg
02-05-2019 06:50:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: https://youtu.be/qvNiQ9qG47A
02-05-2019 06:50:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Thank you.
02-05-2019 06:51:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: welcome to the party, pal
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02-05-2019 07:26:38 < syv!syvarris@72.168.lny.ky: ER, Devastator, stuck on two powers that I feel need changing, but which I can't decide how to alter.  Figure I should use you to for input before you fall asleep.
02-05-2019 07:26:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: oop.
02-05-2019 07:26:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: ok, hit me.
02-05-2019 07:28:28 < syv!syvarris@72.168.lny.ky: The relevant one: Irrestistible Dance.  As is, it forces all enemies to make a Joy roll to move somewhere, after making a purity roll to resist the effect.  L2 gives them a penalty to resist, L3 changes the joy roll to make them need to roll better on Joy than the character using the power.
02-05-2019 07:28:31 < syv!syvarris@72.168.lny.ky: This is terrible.
02-05-2019 07:28:55 < syv!syvarris@72.168.lny.ky: (L3 also makes the purity roll an autofail, but that's beside the point.)
02-05-2019 07:29:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: I would force a joy failure at L2 -> 3 to prevent attacking as well, and at L3 to prevent any primary magic use as well.
02-05-2019 07:30:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: enemy has no mechanical disadvantage but is forced to describe themselves doing a silly dance.
02-05-2019 07:30:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Give everyone a large bonus to dodge whoever's effected because they move predictably.
02-05-2019 07:30:52 < syv!syvarris@72.168.lny.ky: Preventing primary magic use isn't a good boost, since it has very *very* limited utility, and when it is good it's a 100% disable, but preventing attacks is good.
02-05-2019 07:31:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: https://youtu.be/PH-fHEZWxWc?list=PLhFC8pd7oZvwJYhjmpZVyaKG7CUNoVvae
02-05-2019 07:31:26 < syv!syvarris@72.168.lny.ky: I like giving a bonus to dodging rather than penalty to attacking, more appropriate to Joys.
02-05-2019 07:32:46 < syv!syvarris@72.168.lny.ky: I was figuring I'd make L3 make resistance to the effect essentially impossible, with the Joy able to direct movement of enemies if they fail rolls.  Pied-Piper style, make them dance off a cliff, or group together for a bomb.
02-05-2019 07:33:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: more brutal, make the enemy take internal damage if they fail Joy at L3
02-05-2019 07:33:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the dance is in their bones and they can't keep up
02-05-2019 07:34:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Mmm, that sounds like fun, syv.  Fail the Joy roll, the Joy player gets to make you move as desired next turn, unless a Purity roll is made.
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02-05-2019 07:34:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: but only at L3.
02-05-2019 07:36:13 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Should I argue that they get less purity rolls because that's generally good for MGs and more reliable, or should I argue for lots of purity rolls because Sophia can win those in a Joy duel? hmmm
02-05-2019 07:36:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: You should already have a bonus to hit anyone who fails, due to it preventing movment.
02-05-2019 07:36:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Lots of purity rolls because more dice equals more suffering.
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02-05-2019 07:36:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Miss anything?
02-05-2019 07:36:47 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: (Devastator) Mmm, that sounds like fun, syv.  Fail the Joy roll, the Joy player gets to make you move as desired next turn, unless a Purity roll is made.
02-05-2019 07:36:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: You should already have a bonus to hit anyone who fails, due to it preventing movment.
02-05-2019 07:37:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: A flat bonus to dodge sounds ok, because you are going to be dancing.  That should happen regardless of any rolls.
02-05-2019 07:37:25 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Ahh, good point.  Yes, this makes it much better.
02-05-2019 07:37:51 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: do I get a bonus to dodge for dancing without a power
02-05-2019 07:38:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: At L3 I'd probably make it more team friendly than L2.
02-05-2019 07:38:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: if you want something easier than pied piper.
02-05-2019 07:38:45 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Nah, pied piper, team must still roll to resist.  Joy's flaw is supposed to be indiscriminate AoEs.
02-05-2019 07:39:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: That would let you then pied piper friendlies, which could be hilarious.
02-05-2019 07:39:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: so do it.
02-05-2019 07:39:05 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Yeah.
02-05-2019 07:39:11 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: appropriate for a leveled Joy character to shut down literally everyone though. :P
02-05-2019 07:39:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: especially if backstabs happen.  ;-p
02-05-2019 07:40:13 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: though if that lets you micromanage the whole team, maybe it's more of a Pure power? ;D
02-05-2019 07:40:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: And yeah, making the purity roll almost not present at L3 sounds ok, too.  YOU DANCE NOW.
02-05-2019 07:40:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: or even entirely not present.
02-05-2019 07:41:19 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Yeah, if you dance-puppet your Brave who failed her Joy save, can she still attack under your command?
02-05-2019 07:41:41 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: It'll be autofail, only ended by effects that provide immunity to the actual roll.
02-05-2019 07:42:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Can that effect a soulgemmed MG?
02-05-2019 07:42:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: sorry.
02-05-2019 07:42:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: make one with no body move anyway?
02-05-2019 07:42:31 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Dance pupppeting a brave into attacking...  Dunno!  Probably not, wouldn't want ID to allow you to force enemies to kill each other.
02-05-2019 07:42:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you take 3d6 phychic damage because you have no legs and you must dance
02-05-2019 07:42:59 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: It can't effect a soulgemmed MG, but could effect one, not that it'd be relevant since she can't move.
02-05-2019 07:43:06 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Fuck.
02-05-2019 07:43:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: effect
02-05-2019 07:43:17 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: It can't EFFECT one, it can AFFECT one/
02-05-2019 07:43:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: :P
02-05-2019 07:43:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: yeah, fucked.
02-05-2019 07:44:02 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: My deaf cat didn't come to get food, and I can't find him to bring him to the food.  :\
02-05-2019 07:44:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Maybe cat found mouse.
02-05-2019 07:44:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: uh oh.
02-05-2019 07:44:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: unless she has painless L3, then we have a dance-puppeted angry murderghost
02-05-2019 07:44:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah, I don't think you could make the brave attack effectively.
02-05-2019 07:45:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Could probably make some kind of clumsy push.
02-05-2019 07:46:19 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: just gotta teach everyone Floating Passage so that they can dance AND attack!
02-05-2019 07:46:43 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Second power I'm annoyed with (admittedly, it's irrelevant) is Love's Wound Link.  At L1, it's only really useful as an offensive tool, or as a debatably useful defense buff for a Joy or something.  L2 & L3 bring it online as an expensive attack or defense, but I don't entirely like how it works.  Straight immunity for an ally at the cost of your body, or straight immunity for you + guaranteed damage at the cost of more soul.
02-05-2019 07:46:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: I think if the brave is a teammate you could probably coordinate to attack at a penalty.
02-05-2019 07:46:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Ugh, I think I talked about that with you.
02-05-2019 07:47:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: TBH, I might recommend scrapping that power and replacing it with something else.
02-05-2019 07:47:25 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Got any ideas for other Love powers?
02-05-2019 07:47:35 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: wound link honestly is too close for comfort to Triage
02-05-2019 07:48:27 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: I like parts of it.  Trading wounds between the Love and her partner is *super* appropriate, and having an invulnerability/direct damage ability really suits Love's theme of powerful, costly, single-target effecta.
02-05-2019 07:48:42 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...Memento-fueled Bro Attack? >_>
02-05-2019 07:49:24 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: That's already baked into the game system, assist actions.  Memento fueled comes from Memento's passive, allowing either char to use the other's stats.
02-05-2019 07:49:51 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: So a Love with a Brave partner can do a "bro attack" that gives her Taleneted Bravery.
02-05-2019 07:49:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: How about Sacrifice.  You provide damage resistance at the cost of taking a significant wound yourself.
02-05-2019 07:50:07 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: That's even *more* like Triage.  :P
02-05-2019 07:50:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Hmm..
02-05-2019 07:51:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: How about sacrifice from a different direction?  You lose the use of a body part, in order to provide the person you're touching with abilities related to that body part?
02-05-2019 07:51:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: WL is proactive, Triage is reactive. Because you don't usually know when you're going to take damage, that makes Triage the more useful one.
02-05-2019 07:51:18 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Notably, WL is Love's only real direct attack.  Empathy is *kinda* like an attack, but isn't really direct.
02-05-2019 07:52:27 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Limb disable for boosts is... weird and arbitrary.  Very gamey, and would probably result in an option select of buffs.
02-05-2019 07:52:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Temporarially reduce your own arms to shadows, and your ally gets extra punchy arms
02-05-2019 07:52:39 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: That's closer.
02-05-2019 07:53:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Maybe just pay soul for a team-up move.
02-05-2019 07:54:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: You use the power of the memento target along with the memento target.
02-05-2019 07:54:14 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Maybe some kind of possession ability?  Leave your body, possess an ally or enemy's body, if an ally they get boosts, if an enemy you're disabling an enemy + getting better damage.
02-05-2019 07:54:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: IE, you pay soul, and the one you're touching has her power apply to you as well.
02-05-2019 07:54:37 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: That's the power that originally morphed into SS, which is just a better version.
02-05-2019 07:54:55 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Possession overlaps with AF, though.  Mmnf.
02-05-2019 07:54:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: melee attack through your ally. You know, make your arm emerge from her chest and slap something~
02-05-2019 07:55:04 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Too Creative.
02-05-2019 07:55:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: SS is slower.
02-05-2019 07:56:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: I was thinking something that could work now.
02-05-2019 07:56:27 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Feature, not bug.  It also requires heavier investment.  Feature, not bug.
02-05-2019 07:56:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Fair enough.
02-05-2019 07:57:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Also note that it says 'has worn.'
02-05-2019 07:57:31 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: `1
02-05-2019 07:57:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: so if you shuffled the memento around, you could summon everyone.
02-05-2019 07:57:39 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Yup!
02-05-2019 07:57:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: albeit without the cost discount.
02-05-2019 07:57:59 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Nah, cost discount would stick.
02-05-2019 07:58:13 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: SS summons them with a Shade version of a memento.
02-05-2019 07:58:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh yeah, memento L3 comes with a direct nerf compared to L2
02-05-2019 07:58:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: forgot about that
02-05-2019 07:58:53 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: I probably wouldn't let someone summon multiple Shades simultaneously, but they'd have an option for which they want.
02-05-2019 07:59:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nah man, drop a Finale cost to summon copies of an entire dead team
02-05-2019 07:59:36 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Yeah, the L3 nerf isn't changing.  Love is aallll about obsession.
02-05-2019 08:00:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: should change its name to infatuation then~
02-05-2019 08:00:25 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Sounds less heroic and positive.
02-05-2019 08:00:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Should be ok to have it be Finale to summon someone you aren't currently crushing on.
02-05-2019 08:00:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Hmm, maybe have Obsession or something be a power.
02-05-2019 08:01:01 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Literally SS.
02-05-2019 08:01:15 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Naming it obsession would be a tad on the nose.
02-05-2019 08:01:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nah, that would have to be a dark power and SS is a fine dark power
02-05-2019 08:01:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Nah, I'm thinking of another power with that name.
02-05-2019 08:01:58 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Hmm.
02-05-2019 08:02:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Maybe one where each time you attack the same target your attacks get better.  While doing that, your dodging is reduced from that target.
02-05-2019 08:02:36 -!- parisbre56[Away] is now known as parisbre56
02-05-2019 08:02:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ah, that's one of my Fury powers, basically
02-05-2019 08:02:53 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Again, overlaps with AF, but you could have something where you get a huge skill boost for all skills related to a single target.
02-05-2019 08:03:03 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: except every consequtive turn you just attack MORE times
02-05-2019 08:03:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Hmm.
02-05-2019 08:03:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: maybe information based.
02-05-2019 08:03:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: until you're ORAORAORAORAORAORAORA-ing them
02-05-2019 08:03:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: one where you find out what a target is by touching it.
02-05-2019 08:03:29 > parisbre56: Make a prismatic attack that basically turns her into Prism Tower from Red Alert 2
02-05-2019 08:03:40 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Specifically boosting only attacks, *especially* if it also gives you a penalty, is both a bad power and unsuitable for Love.  *All* Love's powers can be used as a supportive power, except SS which gives you someone to support.
02-05-2019 08:04:08 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Informarion power is Creative's thing, Love isn't really concerned about who a person *is*, anyway.
02-05-2019 08:04:14 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Hi Paris!
02-05-2019 08:04:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Love psychometry? :P
02-05-2019 08:04:24 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: I don't know what a prism tower is.
02-05-2019 08:05:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Maybe one where you get better at abilities used on a target if your attack 'hits'.
02-05-2019 08:05:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: At L3, you can move your 'charge' to someone you touch.
02-05-2019 08:05:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Wound Link as a protective support power overlaps with Shield.
02-05-2019 08:06:19 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: "Better at abilities used on a target" sounds like a terrifying bag of worms TBH.
02-05-2019 08:06:25 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Yeah, fair point.
02-05-2019 08:06:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm, guess we need something attacky that still fit's Love's theme
02-05-2019 08:07:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Heh.
02-05-2019 08:07:06 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: why'd I put an apostrophe there
02-05-2019 08:07:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: could just be a 'boost for next roll.'
02-05-2019 08:07:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: and you'd have to decide what stat that roll would be.
02-05-2019 08:07:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Absolute Faith, man
02-05-2019 08:07:58 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: The vast majority of powers don't need a roll, and love already has AF, the strongest stat bonus in the game.
02-05-2019 08:08:07 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Oh.
02-05-2019 08:08:34 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: I'm changing memento to have its cheapening effects also apply to the Love herself.  So they have a bit more freedom with their gameplay.
02-05-2019 08:08:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: never mind then.
02-05-2019 08:08:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: fuck it, just give them a giant love-powered laser.
02-05-2019 08:09:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Works for me.
02-05-2019 08:09:11 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Literally Manabolt.  :P
02-05-2019 08:09:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: attack proportionate to the soul level of your Memento
02-05-2019 08:09:32 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: *There's* an idea!
02-05-2019 08:09:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Better than manabolt, you get to return damage taken by your memento, +1.
02-05-2019 08:10:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: so like wound link, but doesn't prevent damage.
02-05-2019 08:10:08 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Ooh, yeah, benefiting from your memento being in trouble is a good idea.
02-05-2019 08:12:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: unrelated but what's the lore explaination for Time Stop being a dark power?
02-05-2019 08:12:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: only works if your memento takes damage, but rolls on Love.
02-05-2019 08:13:33 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: @ER "It works pretty well with DS power mechanics."
02-05-2019 08:13:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: any other thoughs, Paris.
02-05-2019 08:13:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: ?
02-05-2019 08:14:08 > parisbre56: At higher levels you can "bounce" the beam off of people with memento. At L3 you can make them explode with bean spam. that's all I got
02-05-2019 08:14:18 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Hah.
02-05-2019 08:14:32 > parisbre56: *Beam
02-05-2019 08:14:39 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Would work well if PS were a grid based RPG or something.
02-05-2019 08:14:41 > parisbre56: not actually suggesting you give them gas
02-05-2019 08:15:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: I can imagine a witch making a grid-based dungeon.
02-05-2019 08:16:07 > parisbre56: I'd give them a special attack depending on the type of MG holding the memento, but that's probably too complicated
02-05-2019 08:16:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Or some other odd setting changes.
02-05-2019 08:16:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Hmm, sounda interesting.
02-05-2019 08:16:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: and an ordinary person being the best one, naturally.  ;-p
02-05-2019 08:17:34 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Yeah, it'd be difficult to fit into having enough words.  Ordinary person being the best would conflict heavily with SS, though maybe that's appropriate; Love mundanity, you don't fall to despair.
02-05-2019 08:18:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: I wouldn't tell the players that's the case.
02-05-2019 08:18:32 > parisbre56: Alternatively, don't explain the power at all, simply say it's linked to the person holding the memento
02-05-2019 08:18:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: but probably an ordinary person for the beam would give you a bit from all the other living people linked to that person.
02-05-2019 08:18:57 > parisbre56: and don't make it based on the MG type, make it based on the person and their character (for even more complication)
02-05-2019 08:19:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: ..which wouldn't apply to MG's, being lichs.
02-05-2019 08:19:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: L1: make contact with an ally who recently took damage, then unleash a magical attack proportional to the ally's soul level. L2: Can be used after the ally was attacked, even if they didn't actually take damage. L3: Can pass the attack to the ally, letting them roll for it using Bravery or Joy.
02-05-2019 08:19:22 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Memento's skill passive already provides some versatility there, since the class they have is the talent skill you can use, along with (of course) SS.  Maybe something *should* overlap more with SS, it's already got way too much of the class's freedom locked in it.
02-05-2019 08:19:29 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: dunno, that's kinda bad
02-05-2019 08:19:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: I don't know if I'd use it on soul level.
02-05-2019 08:20:00 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Unexplained powers would have to be MUCH more special.
02-05-2019 08:20:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: probably just damage taken, personally.
02-05-2019 08:20:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: inner monster: figure it out yourself, scrub
02-05-2019 08:20:42 > parisbre56: exactly.
02-05-2019 08:20:53 > parisbre56: and yet it's explained well enough to understand it
02-05-2019 08:20:57 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Yeah, damage taken is more likely.  Soul level scaling is a DS thing, plus physical health lets me just reuse Berserker's system.
02-05-2019 08:21:26 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: IM is just Summon Bigger Fish.  The exact nature of that fish is both unexplained and irrelevant.
02-05-2019 08:22:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I was basically taking the soul level scaling from Soothe, as opposed to the inverse soul level scaling of most dark powers
02-05-2019 08:22:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Just a simple L2 being a bigger beam and L3 having the special effects.
02-05-2019 08:22:43 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: ER's suggestion, with some adjustment, is probably the best contender to replace WL.  It's certainly better than any of the WL fixes I've come up with.
02-05-2019 08:22:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: ok.
02-05-2019 08:22:57 > parisbre56: give them weaponized mini-mementos they launch at others. at higher levels they become basically facehuggers
02-05-2019 08:23:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Hugs!
02-05-2019 08:23:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Animate Memento. :P
02-05-2019 08:23:54 > parisbre56: make them spiders
02-05-2019 08:24:03 > parisbre56: spider hug
02-05-2019 08:24:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...I still give Loves in Refine generic necromancy. You probably don't want that?
02-05-2019 08:24:30 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Hmm.  Might do that, Dev.  Each level grants +power, third level grants highest power + an effect based off the Memento holder, as an extra bit of flavor which isn't necessary for the ability to be useful.  Or something like that; power changes would be better than numeric boosts.
02-05-2019 08:25:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Also, I was wondering if we could get a basic ability to generate light with one's soulgem.
02-05-2019 08:26:01 > parisbre56: manabolts :P
02-05-2019 08:26:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: I suppose, yes.
02-05-2019 08:26:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm
02-05-2019 08:26:25 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: @Dev Taunt.  Which is getting a huge buff this round, and being renamed to Beacon.
02-05-2019 08:26:43 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Or "Beacon of Hope".  Unsure which I prefer.
02-05-2019 08:27:07 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: And no I don't want necromancy.
02-05-2019 08:27:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: SS could do necromancy.
02-05-2019 08:27:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: I suppose that's ok, though.
02-05-2019 08:27:36 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: I mean beyond SS.  :P
02-05-2019 08:27:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...should probably make necromancy a spell rather than a power anyway
02-05-2019 08:28:11 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: SS is less necromancy, more just summoning up a thing that you shape to *look* like a dead person.
02-05-2019 08:28:22 > parisbre56: necromancy is a witch thing anyway
02-05-2019 08:28:51 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Yeah, it should be a Creative power if anything.  :P
02-05-2019 08:29:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Hey, free upkeep if you're wonded and have berzerker.
02-05-2019 08:29:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Creatives are OP enough as-is~
02-05-2019 08:29:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: That'd be weird to play, though.
02-05-2019 08:29:24 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: "Ah!  So that's how animate life functions!  I bet *I* could copy that!"
02-05-2019 08:29:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: "Animate Life" sounds like a witch power, yes.
02-05-2019 08:30:02 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: anime life
02-05-2019 08:30:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: like anime
02-05-2019 08:30:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: life anime
02-05-2019 08:31:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: break out into the animation studio and make them draw a happy ending for your and your friends. The ultimate power.
02-05-2019 08:31:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: There are witch powers, right?
02-05-2019 08:31:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Heh.
02-05-2019 08:39:00 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yup, not playing sekiro because I don't want to stay up all night, not shutting down my computer because I don't want to go to bed.
02-05-2019 08:39:06 > parisbre56: hmm... I've had a munchkin thought. if I got manabolt, could I fire it from my totem, even if it isn't ranged? and since the totem is part of my soul and telekinesis allows me to extend my soul, could I use it to remotely fire the totem? essentially turning them into drones, probably with a joy penalty for firing
02-05-2019 08:39:36 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: I was going to make TK explicitly allow that, yes.
02-05-2019 08:40:19 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: TK exists purely because of Mami's hovering gun walls, and while those mechanically wouldn't have fired manabolts in PS' system, I like the idea.
02-05-2019 08:40:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Lots of uses for TK.
02-05-2019 08:40:38 > parisbre56: ah, right, forgot about that
02-05-2019 08:40:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ah, so with TK1 I could get Tooru to hold my gun and fire bolts using her roll. good~
02-05-2019 08:41:38 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Yeah, you've never actually fired a gun before, right?  :P
02-05-2019 08:42:11 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: for the purposes of that phrase who am I
02-05-2019 08:42:36 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Egan.
02-05-2019 08:42:53 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Nope, pretty sure I've never touched one
02-05-2019 08:43:11 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Sophia's fired guns, but I don't recall her really aiming... though Isabella did, so I guess she'd know from that experience.
02-05-2019 08:43:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I also don't have a magic shotgun though
02-05-2019 08:43:34 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Yeah, if I visit you I'm gonna have to drag you to a range. :P
02-05-2019 08:43:47 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...yeah, probably
02-05-2019 08:44:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: if I had a magic shotgun, I'd definately... well, actually I don't know what I'd do with it. :P
02-05-2019 08:45:15 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: :D
02-05-2019 08:45:41 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: do you have a magic shotgun? can I have one?
02-05-2019 08:46:17 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: I have a few shotguns, but none of them are sawn off or magic.
02-05-2019 08:46:32 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Or even have bayonets for that matter.
02-05-2019 08:46:55 > parisbre56: aren't guns already magic? you just point them at something and it dies
02-05-2019 08:47:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no, cartridges are magic
02-05-2019 08:47:38 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Smokeless gunpowder is magic
02-05-2019 08:48:48 > parisbre56: "My sawn off shotgun: smokeless gunpowder is magic"
02-05-2019 08:49:10 > parisbre56: sounds like a fun show
02-05-2019 08:49:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so a syv game but with horses
02-05-2019 08:49:53 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Ugh.
02-05-2019 08:50:21 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: I can't watch My Little Pony; I'd inevitably ending up making a RPG system for it, and I'd never live the shame down.
02-05-2019 08:50:33 > parisbre56: heh
02-05-2019 08:53:50 > parisbre56: just make WW2 with ponies and magic
02-05-2019 08:53:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: I think someone did that.
02-05-2019 08:54:09 > parisbre56: oh. figures
02-05-2019 08:54:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: And ponies in the Napoleonic Wars.
02-05-2019 08:54:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: except less brutal.
02-05-2019 08:54:47 < * Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net awaits the day when some American finds out about all the war crimes done by Nappy.
02-05-2019 08:55:05 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: MLP is stupid popular.  Basically any "ponies, but in X setting" has been done, far as I can tell.
02-05-2019 08:55:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, one of the more popular DF mods is ponies in fallout for some reason
02-05-2019 08:56:10 > parisbre56: I'd suggest cats instead, but cats are also popular so by that logic they have also already been done
02-05-2019 08:56:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Ponies under the sea?
02-05-2019 08:57:05 > parisbre56: seahorses? :P
02-05-2019 08:58:23 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Mm.  When I was young I attempted to systemize Warriors.  Met with little success, as I was incompetent, and then the creators had someone systemize it themself, with the system being put in the books.
02-05-2019 08:58:44 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Maybe if I read that system today, it'd anger me and I'd be driven to rewrite it but better.
02-05-2019 08:59:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: heh
02-05-2019 08:59:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I read like, one of those books
02-05-2019 09:00:29 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: I read, like all of those books.  Up until the fourth arc, when I had pretty much grown out of it, and the plot started to become more centered around romantic drama.
02-05-2019 09:00:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: heh.
02-05-2019 09:00:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: with cats?
02-05-2019 09:01:00 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Yes.
02-05-2019 09:01:23 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: The protagonists were two sister cats, who were important for some reason, and they had drama over the boy cats they liked.
02-05-2019 09:01:28 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: maybe I didn't even finish the book I read
02-05-2019 09:01:35 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: there was a blind cat
02-05-2019 09:01:41 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that's what I remember
02-05-2019 09:02:56 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: The previous arc had three protagonists, siblings again, who were the chosen ones.  One was the hotblooded fighter, who basically had suoer strength and speed (on cat scale), one was blind and had precognition, while being about as acidic and antisocial as Dev, and the third was a super honorable cat who didn't get any powers, and that drove her insane because her brothers were far less noble than her.
02-05-2019 09:05:18 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Ahh, yeah, that was the thing.  The prophecy said there'd be three chosen ones, and so the trio of three cats, two of whom ended up being clearly the chosen ones, were assumed to be the three.  But the female *wasn't*, despite everyone expecting her to be, and that's what broke her.  Then in the fourth arc, one of the two protagonist sisters was gonna be the *real* third.
02-05-2019 09:05:31 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Ahh, nostalgia.
02-05-2019 09:06:33 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: books
02-05-2019 09:06:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: so.. catfight?
02-05-2019 09:07:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: sounds like a catfight.
02-05-2019 09:07:27 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Lots of catfights happened in that series.  They were fairly anime.
02-05-2019 09:07:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: cats with superpowers, yes.
02-05-2019 09:08:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Also, isn't cat romance basically a boy cat pushing the girl cat down from behind?
02-05-2019 09:08:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: sounds like a Dev setting
02-05-2019 09:08:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: They're assholes.
02-05-2019 09:09:03 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: they can talk and shit and so obviously act just like humans
02-05-2019 09:09:19 > parisbre56: gotta go, I'll catch up on cat romance later :)
02-05-2019 09:09:21 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Once, a random new villain stepped in, and with one attack disemboweled (More than that?  Big cut from groin to neck.) the immortal villain cat who'd been built up for five books, killing him with one strike.  The "immortality" took the form of the cat dying, healing all wounds, then getting back up, but that wound was /so bad/ or whatever that it couldn't be healed, so he just died, woke up, died again, repeatedly.
02-05-2019 09:09:40 > parisbre56: also, I remember reading that cat penises have spikes
02-05-2019 09:09:50 > parisbre56: and with that mental image, I say goodbye
02-05-2019 09:09:53 -!- parisbre56 is now known as parisbre56[Away]
02-05-2019 09:10:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: That's pretty shit.
02-05-2019 09:10:18 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: And nah, the romance was very human.  Sex happened, but as an implied thing; IIRC a female and male would be written as laying down in some remote burrow away from the clans, then going to sleep together.  Novel series for ten year olds.
02-05-2019 09:10:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: mmm.
02-05-2019 09:10:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yes
02-05-2019 09:11:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: 'sleep', yes.
02-05-2019 09:12:28 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: I liked the series, though I imagine I'd find all of it intolerable by now.
02-05-2019 09:13:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: sounds fairly reasonable.
02-05-2019 09:16:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: oh well.  I can't see her not being injured at basically any point in the future, so..
02-05-2019 09:17:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: who? so what?
02-05-2019 09:17:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Whoops.
02-05-2019 09:17:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: was chatting with syv.
02-05-2019 09:17:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Discussing Alida just picking up teammates.
02-05-2019 09:17:51 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: For some reason, this was in PMs.
02-05-2019 09:18:03 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it feels like you drift in and out of PMs completely randomly :P
02-05-2019 09:19:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Mostly just don't want to bore everyone else with them.
02-05-2019 09:19:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: plus it's logged differently.
02-05-2019 09:20:46 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: At least in my case, PMs make my phone beep.  Though you can achieve the same effect by starting with "syv,"
02-05-2019 09:21:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: syv syv syv syv.
02-05-2019 09:21:28 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Yep, exactly.
02-05-2019 09:22:00 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: everything beeps except sometimes PMs don't
02-05-2019 09:22:06 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: because ???
02-05-2019 09:22:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Anti-spam?
02-05-2019 09:22:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it makes a different noise and makes the icon flash when I first get one, then ones sent right after do nothing.
02-05-2019 09:22:53 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: after a while it starts beeping again
02-05-2019 09:23:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and it seems to use the same settings as the normal notifications, which always work
02-05-2019 09:24:05 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Mine does the same, actually.  For any kind of push notification, it won't beep again until I remove or look at the notification.  But it'll still beep if I get one from another source.
02-05-2019 09:24:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Looks like the next turn will demand at least one memory.
02-05-2019 09:24:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: uh oh.
02-05-2019 09:25:07 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: confront memories of battle to increase attack power
02-05-2019 09:25:21 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...
02-05-2019 09:25:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: aw
02-05-2019 09:25:30 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Yeah, that's literally exactly what it is.
02-05-2019 09:25:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: That's an odd way of phrasing it.
02-05-2019 09:25:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: What does that mean?  You punch your brain to get stronger?
02-05-2019 09:25:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it would have been cool if using the memories in Sekiro gave you a little cutscene
02-05-2019 09:25:48 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: I do it better than Sekiro IMO.
02-05-2019 09:25:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yesh
02-05-2019 09:26:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: I did like the last memory.
02-05-2019 09:26:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Sekiro is a great game that still has missed potential.
02-05-2019 09:26:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: What's her name was a terrible person.
02-05-2019 09:26:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Gj, Pumsy.
02-05-2019 09:26:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and also stupid!
02-05-2019 09:27:20 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: @Dev in Sekiro, after you defeat a main boss, you get a key item added to your inventory called "Memory: Name" which has a few sentences of exposition about the boss you just killed.  You can rest at any bonfire and select "Increase attack power" (getting the same message ER posted), and then the memory will turn into a "Remant: [name]", with a little more exposition.  You also get +1 attack power.
02-05-2019 09:27:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah.  I mean, wishing that everyone loved you is like silly powerful.
02-05-2019 09:27:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: blowing that with stupidity and greedy jealousy is just stupid.
02-05-2019 09:28:02 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Sekiro is a game with a really great combat system and a bunch of other stuff that was just done terribly.
02-05-2019 09:28:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: From software, the game?
02-05-2019 09:28:28 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: It improved marginally on the best aspect of Soulsborne games, while completely flubbing everything else.
02-05-2019 09:29:10 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: No.  Dark Souls did mechanics, balance, enemy design, lore, atmosphere, and environment design *excellently*, while making an acceptable story.
02-05-2019 09:29:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: outside of lore, sure.
02-05-2019 09:31:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I don't think that anything in Sekiro is really done unacceptably badly.
02-05-2019 09:33:55 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Sekiro has annoying mechanics outside of the basic combat stuff, which only serve to illustrate how it *could* have bewn great.  Balance is, unsurprisingly, completely broken, and not even in a fun way.  If you just use your katana, it's fairly decent, but if you use literally anything else it's chaos in how good or bad it is.  Enemy design manages to be even more boring than DaS 2, because instead of lots of knights with armo
02-05-2019 09:34:56 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Sekiro was made to create the feel of clashing swords between two warriors.  It does that perfectly.  If you want anything else, it's a firm meh.
02-05-2019 09:37:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well, they made a game where just using your sword and fighting is a really, really, really good game. Then they added other stuff and didn't bring it to the same level.
02-05-2019 09:38:08 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Yes and this makes me mad.
02-05-2019 09:38:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: stealth and mobility are both fairly simple and effective. Sneaking is both important and not a way to beat everything.
02-05-2019 09:39:49 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: The problem with stealth is that it's so uninteresting and basic.  Most of the time you can either easily stealth kill everything you want to, or you can't because enemies automatically detect you.  There's two areas where stealth becomes somewhat difficult, one of them being just absurd, and both are trivialized by the stealth consumable.
02-05-2019 09:40:04 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: It's not a difficult or even particularly interesting mechanic.
02-05-2019 09:40:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well, DS1 was a game with a lot of playstyles, DS2 is that with better mechanics and a worse world, BB is a game with one playstyle with some variations, DS3 is BB pretending to be DS1, and Sekrio is a game with one play style, and some other options that don't matter.
02-05-2019 09:40:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjfu-5j4qr4bm1kpz732e7gn50mdb8.ipv6.telus.net: 'night
02-05-2019 09:41:26 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Yup!  Tradeoffs in all cases except for Sekiro, which is just the worst of the bunch written like that, as it also has the worst world and story.
02-05-2019 09:42:13 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Even compared to DaS 2, the previous holder of those titles, it has a *lot* less content.
02-05-2019 09:42:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I think that DS3 is strictly inferior to both DS1 and BB by trying to combine them.
02-05-2019 09:43:02 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Well I haven't played it so I can't really say.
02-05-2019 09:44:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: eh. well, sekiro lived up to what I wanted it to be. I don't really care if the tools are irrelevant if they have cool animations. :P
02-05-2019 09:45:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's a good action game
02-05-2019 09:45:41 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: So you can leave a positive review to counterbalance my negative one, and the world will go on.
02-05-2019 09:46:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: now to get hype for [whatever from makes next]
02-05-2019 09:46:54 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Yep.  And this time I won't impulse buy immediately on release.  Unless it has multiplayer.
02-05-2019 09:48:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: will it be armored core? will it be a first person RPG? will it be DS with a different gimmick? who know! I'll play it though
02-05-2019 09:49:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, they'll make a first person RPG and everyone will call it a scyrim clone
02-05-2019 09:50:08 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: I'll probably play Sekiro again when modders make a first person mod for it.
02-05-2019 09:50:28 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, fun with mods
02-05-2019 09:50:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'll probably stick a hat on him for my next playthrough
02-05-2019 09:52:44 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Play as Emma instead.  Or maybe Genichiro.  Both are better characters :P
02-05-2019 09:53:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, might need to play am Emma
02-05-2019 09:53:19 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: still be Emma with gruff ninja voice though
02-05-2019 09:54:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but I'll probably ramp up the lore-unfriendliness of the mods as I complete runs :P
02-05-2019 09:54:23 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Also, play in Eng the second time around.
02-05-2019 09:54:32 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: To make a proper comparison.
02-05-2019 09:54:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nah I'll play spainish~
02-05-2019 09:58:49 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: https://www.reddit.com/r/Sekiro/comments/bcpmk0/gyoubu_introduces_himself_in_every_language/
02-05-2019 09:59:14 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Not all that many dubs, but Spanish is there.  I like the Frenchman's version.
02-05-2019 09:59:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: more dubs than I'm used to seeing in a game
02-05-2019 10:01:31 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: True.
02-05-2019 10:01:48 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: Disappointed in no Russian dub, though.
02-05-2019 10:16:29 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qr9owAvdwgg
02-05-2019 10:35:00 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: After further listening, I think French is just the best.  Though the French VA for Genichiro is funny sounding, rather than badass like in Eng.  He sounds like he should be twirling his mustache.
02-05-2019 10:36:34 < syv!syvarris@pbnsmn-494-958-87-60.mycingular.net: And with that, good night, Equally Reticent.
02-05-2019 10:36:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: <3
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02-05-2019 10:36:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: heh
02-05-2019 10:36:47 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: night
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