28-04-2019 00:05:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: "After trying to set up this match I realize that it probably wasn't the best idea to ask a Serbian to mentor a Croat" 28-04-2019 01:28:18 -!- ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 28-04-2019 01:28:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: poke 28-04-2019 01:35:04 -!- Elastic_Ridicule!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 28-04-2019 01:37:58 -!- ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 28-04-2019 01:37:58 -!- Elastic_Ridicule is now known as ER 28-04-2019 01:53:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_incentive this is a fun list :P 28-04-2019 02:43:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yup, it's tournament time. https://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/king-of-swords-6-59/ 28-04-2019 03:27:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: dun dun dun... 28-04-2019 03:28:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: so is muscle ally going to compete? 28-04-2019 03:28:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: probably? 28-04-2019 03:28:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: in truth, it's more fight scenes. 28-04-2019 03:28:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: which is good. 28-04-2019 03:28:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: no offense, but it's the best part of k6bd. 28-04-2019 03:28:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: even if the fight scene is like a card game or drinking contest. 28-04-2019 03:34:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: ... 28-04-2019 03:34:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: one of his generated footballers is "Diego Dos Santos." 28-04-2019 03:35:37 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: is it acceptable in a cyberpunk setting for EVERYTHING to be vulnerable to wireless hacking? 28-04-2019 03:35:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Including like, people and guns and such? 28-04-2019 03:36:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: That's how it works in current Shadowrun. 28-04-2019 03:36:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: because people there are morons. 28-04-2019 03:37:06 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Maybe I could make it so that you can choose to not be networked, but you lose out on some things and the government gets angry if they find out. 28-04-2019 03:37:35 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Guns having any wireless shit built in is pretty hard to justify, though. 28-04-2019 03:37:58 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: outside of "because that makes hacking more fun" 28-04-2019 03:38:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Aren't there guns IRL with wireless shit built in? 28-04-2019 03:38:47 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I dunno, one popular idea in fiction is guns that can only be fired by their proper owners. 28-04-2019 03:39:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Yeah. 28-04-2019 03:39:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Those aren't necessarily wireless, though. 28-04-2019 03:39:53 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I guess libruls sometimes are like "put tracking chips in every gun!" which seems rather impractical. 28-04-2019 03:40:53 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, just put a little USB in the wrist of your future armor and a corresponding plug in the gun. ;P 28-04-2019 03:41:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Well, that part isn't that impractical, Rfids are like $5. 28-04-2019 03:41:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: but it'd probably make it easier to fake guns. 28-04-2019 03:42:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I less mean the expense and more in actually getting everyone to go along with it. 28-04-2019 03:42:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Yeah. 28-04-2019 03:42:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Also, wireless shit in your aircraft-mounted gun is a lot more acceptable.. 28-04-2019 03:48:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: So.. want me to change my orders in Mook? 28-04-2019 03:49:36 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you do whatever's most fun for you~ 28-04-2019 03:50:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Man, I'm fine. 28-04-2019 03:50:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: for all I know the admin area is where the anomaly is. 28-04-2019 03:50:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: What is it, anyway? 28-04-2019 03:50:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: a woman got possessed by something that was living inside a crystal ball. 28-04-2019 03:51:13 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ball got smashed, spirit escaped, stole her body. 28-04-2019 03:51:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: so.. grab the woman but don't smash her? 28-04-2019 03:51:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: my successful Occult roll told me that killing her is a bad, bad idea. the spirit will just possess someone else. 28-04-2019 03:51:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: oh, ok. 28-04-2019 03:52:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also it grows stronger with repeated possessions, so solving THAT problem the same way will make things progressively worse and worse. 28-04-2019 03:52:57 -!- syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr has joined #einsteinianroulette 28-04-2019 03:53:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Hey syv. 28-04-2019 03:53:55 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: As far as wireless handguns, not really. There's been a number of handguns with built-in RFIDs to ensure only the owner can fire them, but all have failed commercially to my knowledge. 28-04-2019 03:55:17 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I believe militaries have experimented with sensors and stuff on rifles, but not really anything which would fire infantry weapons, or really hamper their usage. Vehicle weapons, sure, sky's the limit there. We have remote control *aircraft*, so literally. 28-04-2019 03:55:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well, economics can be handwaved some in a cyberpunk setting. 28-04-2019 03:55:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Say that the tech improved enough to be reliable and that militaries/police forces adopted it. 28-04-2019 03:56:25 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh, easily. It wouldn't be at all unreasonable to have a setting where every gun has a built-in RFID, and you have to have the proper credentials on a device in your hand to fire it. Then, guns need to be hacked to use. 28-04-2019 03:56:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: if you have police sniper drone hovering over the city, that could be fun for a hacker. :P 28-04-2019 03:57:19 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Throw in some remote operation stuff, most likely a kill switch combined with a guncam for police weapons, and that's got hacking opportunities. 28-04-2019 03:59:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: basically thinking of a two team game, two secret orginizations in a cyberpunk city trying to eliminate each other, with civillans and police getting in the way. 28-04-2019 03:59:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and a silly tron-style "cyberspace" layer, of course. 28-04-2019 03:59:40 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And yes, remote drones are totally reasonable. Technologically possible today, really, though I don't believe anyone's really pursuing it. Hardest part would be getting it to be actually accurate, but I don't think that's a technological limit. 28-04-2019 03:59:52 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You have my interest. 28-04-2019 03:59:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: and lag. 28-04-2019 03:59:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: don't forget lag. 28-04-2019 04:00:45 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, yeah, sniper drone. One shot at a time, high altitude. Probably best with a low caliber and lots of recoil reduction. Automatic would be a hilariously bad idea, and completely worthless. 28-04-2019 04:01:03 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I always wondered why we put missiles on the robots we appear to mostly use to assassainate people. A rifle would be more economical, surely. :P 28-04-2019 04:01:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: long range sniper shots are hard. 28-04-2019 04:01:35 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Actually, no, Dev. We've got autonomous camera drones which can track people completely on their own, purely using on-board computers. Commercial, even; my dad has one. 28-04-2019 04:01:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: robots are good at hard things. 28-04-2019 04:02:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and bad at easy things, just like Dev! 28-04-2019 04:02:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: ..hmm? 28-04-2019 04:02:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: cameras are easier than bullets.. 28-04-2019 04:02:36 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Missiles have very little failure chance and are much, much easier. There's a lot of data that goes into a sniper shot, and collecting all that data is hard, even if crunching it is easy for a computer. 28-04-2019 04:02:59 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yes, but lag isn't the issue. 28-04-2019 04:03:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: (also more expensive and therefore more profitable for the folks designing it) 28-04-2019 04:03:51 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Getting the gun on a big enough mount that is precise enough to place the bullet accurately is difficult, but getting them to determine where they need to put the bullet? Relatively easy. 28-04-2019 04:04:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: lag is an issue when things shoot back. 28-04-2019 04:04:36 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, yeah, this is something that would probably cost as much as a cheap car, by modern tech. Maybe more. 28-04-2019 04:04:53 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I never said you could make the drone effective in a firefight. :P 28-04-2019 04:05:40 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: But something that hovers 200 meters out, flying in the sky, colored dark during the night? You'd have no real ability to target it yourself. Maybe during the day, though it'd still be difficult. 28-04-2019 04:05:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, this probably isn't going to be a thing that can take even a single bullet pretty much anywhere. I'd think you'd rely on it being too high up to return fire effecively. 28-04-2019 04:05:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Yeah, use that missile then. 28-04-2019 04:06:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: missiles are espensive and hard to hide. 28-04-2019 04:07:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: in terms of the game idea I had, it would be something the players COULD get, but it would take some resources and attract unwanted attention. 28-04-2019 04:07:21 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Missile has collateral. This would be a police tool, methinks. Operates like a police sniper, but has less risk to the officer, and can take shots no officer could ever get in position to take, due to being an aircraft. Precise enough to avoid collateral damage, unlike a missile, small enough to be stralthy and economical, unlike a helicopter. 28-04-2019 04:07:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: they are expensive, though. 28-04-2019 04:07:59 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that's why you hack the police ones~ 28-04-2019 04:08:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: IRL it'd still never be used because it's an autonomous murder device, but in fiction we can have the world be as dystopian as we like! 28-04-2019 04:08:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: there are plenty of autonomous murder devices. 28-04-2019 04:08:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: they're called 'kittens.' 28-04-2019 04:08:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: chicks dig autonomous murder devices. 28-04-2019 04:14:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: yes. 28-04-2019 04:30:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hm 28-04-2019 04:31:19 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: is it possible for an online game, such as a multiplayer FPS to have a functional server browser without having some central server? 28-04-2019 04:31:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Yeah. 28-04-2019 04:32:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: without having to type in an IP or something? just click and see a list of servers in game? 28-04-2019 04:32:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that is, a list of every connected server for that game on the internet? 28-04-2019 04:33:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: That in particular, no. 28-04-2019 04:34:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: like if the company making the game died entirely, and you wanted to get a match going without looking up a fan site or something. 28-04-2019 04:34:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Depends on the game. 28-04-2019 04:35:02 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Fanservers and P2P games. 28-04-2019 04:35:09 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Only two real options. 28-04-2019 04:35:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: So you'd need to find someone else who plays outside of the game itself. 28-04-2019 04:41:26 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yup. Probably through fansites, which are--you guessed it--hosted on servers. 28-04-2019 04:42:06 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: not very hard in practice so long as search engines exist. :P 28-04-2019 04:44:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: still, it takes there being people willing and able to host their own sites for the sake of the game. 28-04-2019 04:44:55 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: So you gonna run a test of this cyberpunk game? 28-04-2019 04:45:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, not -quite-. There's plenty of ways to set up a free-ish community on some service that gets money from other things. 28-04-2019 04:45:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm, part of the premise was having a fairly detailed city map. Something like frozen synapse 2 28-04-2019 04:46:07 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: FS2 is a tragedy. 28-04-2019 04:46:14 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Sorry, refled. 28-04-2019 04:46:17 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: *reflex. 28-04-2019 04:46:28 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: then both teams would pick a building to put their base in secretly. 28-04-2019 04:46:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the goal would be to explore and hack to find the other base and destroy it. 28-04-2019 04:47:01 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'd suggest taking the Chalice path for city design, then fleshing out individual segments only when needed. 28-04-2019 04:47:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: like X-Com Apocalypse. 28-04-2019 04:47:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: like [insert game with detailed city map] :P 28-04-2019 04:47:33 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Was Apoc a tragedy? I've never played it, but I think it'd be hard to be as bad as FS2. 28-04-2019 04:47:42 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that game that Introversion were making then decided was too hard. 28-04-2019 04:47:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Apoc is cool, but unfinished. 28-04-2019 04:48:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I tried to play it but the emulated verson on steam had some major visual bugs that made it unplayable, sadly. 28-04-2019 04:49:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: there was an Openapoc project but I haven't heard about it for a while 28-04-2019 04:50:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: I have a non-steam version around somewhere.. 28-04-2019 04:50:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: works fine. 28-04-2019 04:50:55 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: HMMM. Pay money to Steam for a version that doesn't work, or pirate a free version which does... hard choice. 28-04-2019 04:51:21 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh hey, I have internet right now, so if either of you want to do anything I'm free. 28-04-2019 04:52:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you know, as much as I like the idea of doing a game set in a city, I'm not entirely sure how to make said city? 28-04-2019 04:52:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: well, I could roll one up for you. 28-04-2019 04:53:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Ask Piecewise to make a system for it, he'd probably like the challenge. 28-04-2019 04:54:29 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Thinking about it, I've seen a few neat ideas for gamey random map generation, making a city version of those shouldn't be *too* difficult... 28-04-2019 04:58:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Dev, would your way end up with a street-level map? 28-04-2019 05:00:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Nope! 28-04-2019 05:00:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Sadly. 28-04-2019 05:00:37 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You know, boarding and commandeering a giant starship would be an absolutely terrifying endeavor. 28-04-2019 05:00:59 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Even with overwhelming force and numbers on your side. 28-04-2019 05:01:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Maybe. 28-04-2019 05:03:51 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: The people you're attacking have control of the power systems, and taking control of said power systems would be the hardest thing to do. They have full knowledge of the environment, how everything works, and any modifications that have been made or could be made. 28-04-2019 05:04:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: They have every advantage, extreme degrees of control, and it's all in a giant machine that's *in space*. 28-04-2019 05:06:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so wear a space suit 28-04-2019 05:07:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: they're the ones who have to live there, so they lose the most from a firefight breaking out and smashing vital systems. 28-04-2019 05:07:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: A good spaceship would have a lot of compartmentalization, so you could cut things off to certain areas. 28-04-2019 05:08:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Yeah. 28-04-2019 05:08:28 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: then again, if both sides have an interest in not breaking shit, it might be more of a melee. microgravity knife fights. 28-04-2019 05:08:42 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And wearing a space suit, unless it's something super hi-tech (which is admittedly ubiquitous in scifi) would seriously hamper CQB. 28-04-2019 05:10:00 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Dev PM's me a thing about Steve just trivializing any boarding operation you get involved in. 28-04-2019 05:10:06 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: *PM'd 28-04-2019 05:10:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: kek 28-04-2019 05:10:25 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's not revelant, I just wanted to mention it. 28-04-2019 05:11:03 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also if we're talking about *giant* spaceships then a suit that's more flexable doesn't seem out of place. 28-04-2019 05:12:21 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: what we have now is basically terrible, but if we're making that much of an investment in space technology in our magical scifi world, skin hugging suits is probably a logical step. 28-04-2019 05:13:27 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Giving every soldier a suit good enough to survive a vacuum, while not hampering dexterity, though? I don't think that a reasonable possibility unless your side is *very* rich. 28-04-2019 05:13:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: https://i.imgur.com/ja4CoPo.png 28-04-2019 05:13:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: ... 28-04-2019 05:13:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: I mean, you've got spaceships. 28-04-2019 05:14:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: nobody in space is poor. 28-04-2019 05:14:03 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: The whole MCP idea is neat, but I have SIGNIFICANT doubt that it works as well as theorized. 28-04-2019 05:14:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that's a city generator that looks a lot like the FS2 one, but it's actually a prototype by introversion software that I got from a humble bundle way back. 28-04-2019 05:15:09 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Well, solution found? 28-04-2019 05:15:13 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it doesn't seem to have any way to export what you've make or take a nice top-down shot 28-04-2019 05:15:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Prequel update. 28-04-2019 05:16:08 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Anyway, clearing in a ship isn't just difficult because space. It combines all the worst parts of urban combat with the worst parts of subterranean combat, and then throws in a few extra challenges for flavor. 28-04-2019 05:16:22 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Does it have a way to generate from a seed? 28-04-2019 05:17:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it does have a seed, but it's a random extra thing that was available in a limited-time sale years and years ago. 28-04-2019 05:20:36 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I don't like Makkon's style. 28-04-2019 05:21:39 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: That hoodie he sells is actually pretty good though, I have one right here and it's my favorite hoodie. Has an appropriately giant hood. 28-04-2019 05:22:26 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Or, no, he's selling anew thing. A stupider thing. Neat. 28-04-2019 05:23:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "You confirm that, yes, you do have a signed contract telling you this is okay." 28-04-2019 05:24:57 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: One of the sizing options for the hood is "Literal cat" and suddenly I actually have interest in the stupid apparel. 28-04-2019 05:25:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Heh. 28-04-2019 05:25:18 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: None of my cats are Katia's color though. :\ 28-04-2019 05:25:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: so breed one up. 28-04-2019 05:35:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: https://i.imgur.com/5Zp48sz.png 28-04-2019 05:35:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: That's pretty good. 28-04-2019 05:35:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: That looks hard to use. 28-04-2019 05:35:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah... 28-04-2019 05:36:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's kinda hard to get a good shot? 28-04-2019 05:36:59 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I have to screen capture too, as it doesn't have a built in photo button 28-04-2019 05:37:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: almost as if it wasn't made for this! 28-04-2019 05:38:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Could just use FS2 if you literally only want the building map? 28-04-2019 05:38:48 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: If nothing else you *are* able to load up the exsct same map repeatedly and look at it. 28-04-2019 05:39:47 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'd say that one problem with that is that I don't own it but then you'd probably just give it to me >.> 28-04-2019 05:40:16 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah? 28-04-2019 05:40:23 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Want a torrent link? 28-04-2019 05:41:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: just unsure how well it'd work for that, really. 28-04-2019 05:41:23 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Want a torrent link? 28-04-2019 05:41:32 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no 28-04-2019 05:42:25 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Okay then. 28-04-2019 05:44:37 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "jumping out of a second-story window sounds like a *really cool* way to make an exit..." 28-04-2019 05:44:59 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: not sure how much effort I want to go to to create a map for a hypothetical game I don't have anything *else* made for yet. 28-04-2019 05:45:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: however sweet "cyberpunk Chalice" sounds. 28-04-2019 05:45:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Disregard such concerns and DIVE FULL BLAST INTO IT YEAH! 28-04-2019 05:45:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Chalice wasn't cyberpunk? 28-04-2019 05:45:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Nah, update tachell. 28-04-2019 05:46:01 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: No cyber, so no. 28-04-2019 05:46:14 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Wait, yeah, update tacy\tihell. 28-04-2019 05:46:21 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Tactihell too. 28-04-2019 05:46:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Chalice is plexipunk 28-04-2019 05:46:33 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ^ 28-04-2019 05:46:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: aw, now I miss Chalice 28-04-2019 05:47:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: You could absolutely have cyber in Chalice. 28-04-2019 05:47:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but the *setting* wasn't cyber itself. 28-04-2019 05:47:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: well, except for the magitech. 28-04-2019 05:47:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the setting was plexi, which in turn pretty much lets the players do whatever the fuck they want. 28-04-2019 05:47:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: We just were slumming with the poor people. 28-04-2019 06:03:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: oh well. 28-04-2019 06:03:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: I hope Cabal continues. 28-04-2019 06:04:00 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it better 28-04-2019 06:04:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: pfff 28-04-2019 06:04:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: sadly, I want to drop vessel. 28-04-2019 06:05:02 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I didn't like, really give it a chance 28-04-2019 06:05:20 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Okay, drop it. 28-04-2019 06:05:29 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: THEN UPDATE TACTIHELL. 28-04-2019 06:13:20 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Heeey Dev, wanna play Surviv? 28-04-2019 06:13:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: lemme check my connectoin. 28-04-2019 06:13:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: but sure. 28-04-2019 06:14:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: http://surviv.io/#gGS8 28-04-2019 06:16:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: should be ok. 28-04-2019 06:21:45 -!- MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 28-04-2019 06:21:56 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: lo 28-04-2019 06:23:11 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hi hello 28-04-2019 06:23:25 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hey, you. 28-04-2019 06:23:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: heya. 28-04-2019 06:23:33 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: How're you ER? 28-04-2019 06:23:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: got about a full second's lag. 28-04-2019 06:23:39 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: and syv and dev 28-04-2019 06:23:40 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Why have you always been joining at like 2 AM? 28-04-2019 06:23:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm maybe now that you're exiting the boring cave biome art will become harder 28-04-2019 06:23:48 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Dev and I are playing surviv. 28-04-2019 06:23:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: well, sort of. 28-04-2019 06:24:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: I'm getting more of a slideshow effect. 28-04-2019 06:24:00 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Because that's when I finnaly decide I'm going to go insanse if I study anymore 28-04-2019 06:24:11 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Wanna join us? 28-04-2019 06:24:14 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: sure 28-04-2019 06:24:54 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: linky? 28-04-2019 06:25:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: http://surviv.io/#gGS8 28-04-2019 06:27:35 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: wow I am laggy 28-04-2019 06:28:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Yeah, this lag isn't working out. 28-04-2019 06:28:28 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: The M1100 sucks, fyi. 28-04-2019 06:28:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: I think it's underrated. 28-04-2019 06:28:53 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You can survive in the zone pretty long early on. 28-04-2019 06:29:04 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Should've stayed back and broken the airdrop crate. 28-04-2019 06:30:10 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: This map has way, way too much lack of weapons. 28-04-2019 06:30:56 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Still weirdlly laggy 28-04-2019 06:31:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: This lag is terrible. 28-04-2019 06:31:19 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: MJ, strobes are good for offense, closing off an area of retreat so they can't run without risk. 28-04-2019 06:31:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: roomate's been talking with his gf for the last seven hours. 28-04-2019 06:31:26 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Tossing it and running won't do anything. 28-04-2019 06:31:40 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: How is she still his GF? 28-04-2019 06:32:09 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I don't even have a roommate anymore and I still have horrible lag.~ 28-04-2019 06:32:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Did any of you DL SWAT 4? 28-04-2019 06:32:18 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I did 28-04-2019 06:32:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Nah, just finished. 28-04-2019 06:32:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: he's downloading stuff now. 28-04-2019 06:33:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: so.. bumped him off, because he's asleep and we can play now. 28-04-2019 06:39:22 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Okay, 28-04-2019 06:39:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Much easier when not lagging. 28-04-2019 06:39:29 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: nice 28-04-2019 06:39:29 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Dev is now Team leader. Follow Dev. 28-04-2019 06:39:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Heh. 28-04-2019 06:39:39 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Agreed 28-04-2019 06:39:44 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Because I know he's the one who always refuses to stick with others -.- 28-04-2019 06:39:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: well, you two did good too.. 28-04-2019 06:39:52 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Dev is more human blender than team leader~ 28-04-2019 06:46:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: welp. 28-04-2019 06:46:09 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I spent that entire round using semiautos. 28-04-2019 06:46:12 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I shouldn't do that. 28-04-2019 06:46:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: the M1A4s isn't a semiauto.. 28-04-2019 06:46:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: it's a stupidly good weapon though. 28-04-2019 06:46:32 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: What was that green gun I was using/ 28-04-2019 06:46:36 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Aww, yeah, but only used it for like 15 secknds. 28-04-2019 06:46:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Dunno. 28-04-2019 06:46:47 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Barely had one mag. 28-04-2019 06:46:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: oh. 28-04-2019 06:46:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: I dropped more ammo for it. 28-04-2019 06:47:01 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: The QBB? Decent, better than any ARs if you have the green. 28-04-2019 06:47:08 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Ah. 28-04-2019 06:47:09 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Yeah that 28-04-2019 06:47:12 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Liked that one 28-04-2019 06:47:12 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Didn't realize. 28-04-2019 06:47:18 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: that and the tommy were useful 28-04-2019 06:47:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: stupid good. 28-04-2019 06:47:31 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: brb 28-04-2019 06:47:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: I'm just glad I got my allocutment of melee kills. 28-04-2019 06:47:49 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: whatcha been up to dev? 28-04-2019 06:47:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Working. 28-04-2019 06:47:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: and human blender, heh. 28-04-2019 06:48:04 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: how's the job? 28-04-2019 06:48:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Everything's breaking down. 28-04-2019 06:48:39 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Heh, I suppose that's nice if your the guy who repairs it and hellish if you arent. 28-04-2019 06:49:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: or hellish if you're the guy who repairs things. 28-04-2019 06:49:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: http://www.scarygoround.com/badmachinery/index.php?date=20110928 28-04-2019 06:49:58 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Back. 28-04-2019 06:50:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: again? 28-04-2019 06:50:38 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: You could look at either way in that case dev. One on hand your proving your purpose, on the other hand now you have to fix all the shit 28-04-2019 06:50:39 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yes. 28-04-2019 06:50:47 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh yeah 28-04-2019 06:50:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And why that comic? 28-04-2019 06:50:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I was going to put a fight in this room 28-04-2019 06:51:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: because this game is supposedly about fight 28-04-2019 06:51:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: s 28-04-2019 06:51:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and I haven't really given you a proper stand up one yet 28-04-2019 06:52:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and yet I drew up this room and wrote a whole turn with it *not even occuring to me* that a fight could possibly be a thing. 28-04-2019 06:54:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: fuck. 28-04-2019 06:55:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: guy with M4A1s and a saiga-12. 28-04-2019 06:55:02 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I should obviously build game systems without any combat rules at all because dropping fights on people is not my GMing style 28-04-2019 06:56:13 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: damnit, I got squished 28-04-2019 06:58:19 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: alright, I think next one might be my last 28-04-2019 07:00:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: ok. 28-04-2019 07:00:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: oh, you can also kill the stone blocks with airstrikes. 28-04-2019 07:06:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: ... 28-04-2019 07:06:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: ok.. 28-04-2019 07:06:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: I think that's enough of that mode. 28-04-2019 07:06:21 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: nice 28-04-2019 07:06:25 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: So: Don't fire flares in the red zone. 28-04-2019 07:06:31 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You can carry them out. 28-04-2019 07:06:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Yeah. 28-04-2019 07:06:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: but I got two full boxes! 28-04-2019 07:07:02 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Anyway, I should go to bed. 28-04-2019 07:07:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: or do, if you have the healing items. 28-04-2019 07:07:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: I finished with an AN-94 and a Saiga-12. 28-04-2019 07:07:20 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: In squad I'd suggest not to regardless of heals. 28-04-2019 07:07:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: makes sense. 28-04-2019 07:07:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Your allies don't necessarily have the heals, and the drain from three people isn't worth it. 28-04-2019 07:08:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: def. 28-04-2019 07:08:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: yeah, just shoot them in the safe zone. 28-04-2019 07:08:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: or shoot them immediately. 28-04-2019 07:08:58 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: MJ had grabbed them in the red zone and shot immediately. 28-04-2019 07:09:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: mmm. 28-04-2019 07:09:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: yeah. 28-04-2019 07:09:16 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It seemed like he chained that two or three in a row? Which is lucky, but very wasteful. 28-04-2019 07:09:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: I did get to loot those boxes, though. 28-04-2019 07:09:39 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Anyway, Dev, did you download SWAT 4? 28-04-2019 07:09:40 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Yeah, I didn't think through that action 28-04-2019 07:09:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: you guys didn't need me. 28-04-2019 07:09:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: don't think so. 28-04-2019 07:10:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: lemme check. 28-04-2019 07:10:06 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Okay, then. 28-04-2019 07:10:08 < MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: anyway, night. 28-04-2019 07:10:11 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Night. 28-04-2019 07:10:11 -!- MidJag!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net has left #einsteinianroulette 28-04-2019 07:10:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: No, was downloading goblin slayer for PW. 28-04-2019 07:10:31 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...For PW? 28-04-2019 07:11:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: I think so. 28-04-2019 07:11:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: not ER. 28-04-2019 07:11:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: but PW wanted it. 28-04-2019 07:11:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: and recommended shield hero, but I think I'll skip that. 28-04-2019 07:11:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: what do you call it when 28-04-2019 07:12:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: something has its tail cut off but not at the base, just making it shorter? 28-04-2019 07:12:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: lopped? 28-04-2019 07:12:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: trimmed? 28-04-2019 07:12:36 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: lopped? 28-04-2019 07:13:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: lopped off? 28-04-2019 07:13:55 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: chopped, shortened, hacked, etc. 28-04-2019 07:14:10 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "severed in the middle" works. 28-04-2019 07:15:33 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: @Dev does your current wifi setup allow you to port forward? 28-04-2019 07:16:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: I don't use wifi. 28-04-2019 07:16:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: and yes I can port forward. 28-04-2019 07:18:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: RWR stuff? 28-04-2019 07:22:44 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: SWAT 4, actually. There's public servers available which cycle through various maps, but they're not ideal to use, and require messing with one additional file. Mostly asking to see if it's even an option. 28-04-2019 07:22:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Ahh. 28-04-2019 07:22:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Yeah it's an option. 28-04-2019 07:28:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I want to exclaim something but it would be a spoiler, oh no. 28-04-2019 07:28:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: oh? 28-04-2019 07:28:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: about what? 28-04-2019 07:29:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: tachel, what else? 28-04-2019 07:30:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: ahh 28-04-2019 07:37:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Did you have a particular map in mind? 28-04-2019 07:37:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: one that's not dark, say? 28-04-2019 07:39:47 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I guess if I ever have to defeat Dev I'll know what his weakness is 28-04-2019 07:40:02 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: just fight him at night with dim lighting 28-04-2019 07:40:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: If you do that intentionally, I'll just tweak my monitor, you know. 28-04-2019 07:40:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: can't tweak the monitor of life 28-04-2019 07:40:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Yes, that'll work. 28-04-2019 07:50:09 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: SWAT 4 has a campaign mode, which takes you through the missions from easiest to hardest, and slowly unlocks weapons and equipment, so you don't start off with ten (or fifty) different options for every aspect of your loadout. 28-04-2019 07:50:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: If someone runs the campaign mode, we're guaranteed to start with the easier "training" levels, and without so many items that there's just a flood of choices. 28-04-2019 07:51:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's fun to make demons and make them ever so slightly unique and give them name 28-04-2019 07:52:08 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: If we instead use a server, we might get put into one of the seriously difficult maps, like the one that has about fifty russian mobsters crammed into a moderately sized family home, or the one where you have a time limit to find four bombs in a multistory flooded concrete building that has a bunch of heavily armed gunmen hiding everywjere. 28-04-2019 07:52:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: would I ruin the mood for everyone in swat4 if I just charge in and shoot everyone with a shotgun? 28-04-2019 07:52:26 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And there will be just a metric fuckton of guns and equipment available to use. 28-04-2019 07:52:29 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Not at all! 28-04-2019 07:52:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You can also just punch people. 28-04-2019 07:53:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Sadly, I suspect I'll be required to use weapons that aren't mac-10s and rifle-round revolvers. 28-04-2019 07:54:02 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Shotguns are generally pretty good in SWAT 4. They start to become a bit sad once you run into heavily armored suspects, but before then they're awesome tools. 28-04-2019 07:54:28 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You can shoot the locks off of armored doors with shotguns, too, which generally means you want *at least* one shotgunner. 28-04-2019 07:54:44 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Explosives and lockpicks are slow. 28-04-2019 07:56:18 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh, there's a MAC-10 in the game, and .357 revolver, but in both cases you'd need to be playing on one of the servers to use them. 28-04-2019 07:56:35 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Or host the same gametype as the server, that also works. 28-04-2019 07:57:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: oh good. 28-04-2019 07:57:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: those enemy weapons? 28-04-2019 07:58:06 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yes. 28-04-2019 07:58:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: obviously Dev should run Opfor 28-04-2019 07:58:39 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You can't pick up guns or ammo in this game, though. What you start with is all you get. 28-04-2019 07:59:19 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Though you can load yourself down more heavily than any real life soldier would need or want, despite being a cop. 28-04-2019 07:59:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: shouldn't I always be running Opfor? 28-04-2019 08:00:27 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: There's versus game modes, but then we'd *have* to have Dev host. None of the SEF servers run them, and the base game is... not as fun. 28-04-2019 08:01:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: mmm. 28-04-2019 08:01:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: I might not have the bandwidth for that. 28-04-2019 08:05:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: there we go 28-04-2019 08:07:25 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ? 28-04-2019 08:07:33 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: tac 28-04-2019 08:07:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hel 28-04-2019 08:10:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: TACHEL 28-04-2019 08:10:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=173230.msg7962660#msg7962660 28-04-2019 08:10:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: T A C T I C A L H E L L 28-04-2019 08:12:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: ooh 28-04-2019 08:13:00 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: now featuring weird dogs 28-04-2019 08:13:13 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: because I had to give you a real fight at some point. 28-04-2019 08:13:47 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: bugs were going to be that but then mister book kinda bypassed the fight 28-04-2019 08:19:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: did syv just go AFK or did he just start reading the turn before saying "yay"? 28-04-2019 08:19:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Probably. 28-04-2019 08:19:53 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: don't you inclusiveor me 28-04-2019 08:21:14 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Dev is distracting me from finishing reading, by talking about more furry webcomics. 28-04-2019 08:21:32 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ... 28-04-2019 08:21:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: why? 28-04-2019 08:22:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: ..because syv asked? 28-04-2019 08:22:14 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "For some reason I have the voice of an anime girl." 28-04-2019 08:22:28 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ER, this isn't abnormal, you always sound like an anime girl. 28-04-2019 08:22:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: One with a relatively deep voice, but still an anime girl. 28-04-2019 08:22:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: cool 28-04-2019 08:29:57 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ER, if I move adjacent to one of the dogs, would it get an attack of opportunity against me? Or no, because it hasn't had a turn yet? 28-04-2019 08:30:32 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no 28-04-2019 08:32:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Why does catgirl always lose initiative? 28-04-2019 08:32:10 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: If I move between a dog and an allly, and then that ally attacks that dog, do they take any penalty on the roll? 28-04-2019 08:32:56 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Because catgirl has low focus. 28-04-2019 08:33:28 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: The idea being that catgirl is ADD, but that's a little lost since ADD would *improve* initiative if anything. 28-04-2019 08:33:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: did I not write down any rules for shooting past someone? 28-04-2019 08:34:00 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: eh, let's say no 28-04-2019 08:34:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: sounds like a problem that can be solved with more drugs. 28-04-2019 08:35:19 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Damn. 28-04-2019 08:35:59 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Real quick, just say that on a miss your shot will hit the person intervening inst... wait, no, that's hilariously abusable. 28-04-2019 08:36:46 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Simply position catgirl on the far side of the enemy, and give your worst shot the biggest gun. Catgirl dodges incompetent gunner, IG shoots at CG, misses, shot hits enemy. 28-04-2019 08:40:20 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: If I parry a reach weapon while they're not in range, I presume they're undamaged by the parry, rather than being yanked closer and stabbed? 28-04-2019 08:40:24 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: @ER 28-04-2019 08:40:45 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, does reach work diagonally, or only orthogonally? 28-04-2019 08:40:59 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no, they take damage 28-04-2019 08:41:43 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Wow. That's awesome. 28-04-2019 08:42:03 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: So Alexander could solo this fight, no sweat. 28-04-2019 08:42:19 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: diagonals count as two tiles away so within reach range 28-04-2019 08:44:33 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Acrion posted. 28-04-2019 08:51:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ER, did you DL SWAT 4? 28-04-2019 08:51:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no 28-04-2019 08:51:33 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: If I send you a torrent, will you DL it? 28-04-2019 08:51:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: sure 28-04-2019 09:29:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmmmm 28-04-2019 09:30:00 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you mean to go 1W, *then* 2N, right? 28-04-2019 09:30:11 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Does it matter? 28-04-2019 09:30:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: cause otherwise you kinda collide with a pillar~ 28-04-2019 09:30:30 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Ah. Didn't realize it was solid. 28-04-2019 09:30:36 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yes, 1W 2N. 28-04-2019 09:31:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's the same color as the rest of the solid stuff 28-04-2019 09:32:37 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: No, most of the solid stuff is plain white. 28-04-2019 09:32:55 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Or transparent, I guess. 28-04-2019 09:33:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: transparent is stuff you can't see. 28-04-2019 09:34:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the walls here are a slightly greenish grey which is probably easier to see on the light theme 28-04-2019 09:35:04 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I always use light theme. 28-04-2019 09:35:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yup 28-04-2019 09:35:36 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so I dunno what you're drinking, the walls aren't white~ 28-04-2019 09:35:45 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'm just saying I was judging where the walls are by looking at where the map ends. 28-04-2019 09:58:36 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: updated 28-04-2019 09:58:39 -!- syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 28-04-2019 10:02:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: off he goes 28-04-2019 10:07:55 -!- syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr has joined #einsteinianroulette 28-04-2019 10:11:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: back he comes 28-04-2019 10:11:18 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Posted in PS. 28-04-2019 10:11:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: what should I call cyberpunk Chalice? 28-04-2019 10:11:28 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Not sure if Dev is waiting on anything, there. 28-04-2019 10:11:56 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Cylice? Cylunk? Cylink? 28-04-2019 10:12:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: slink 28-04-2019 10:12:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: sylink 28-04-2019 10:13:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: would be a good idea to name it after whatever city it's set in, but I don't feel creative in that direction 28-04-2019 10:13:38 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It'd also be a good idea to name it after me~ 28-04-2019 10:13:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also, I UNDERSTOOD THAT REFERENCE 28-04-2019 10:13:59 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Eh? 28-04-2019 10:14:06 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: What reference? 28-04-2019 10:14:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: in PS :V 28-04-2019 10:14:33 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...What reference??? 28-04-2019 10:14:52 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: The "wish away all witches"? 28-04-2019 10:14:53 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you know, wish away all witches 28-04-2019 10:14:59 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Ah. Yeah. 28-04-2019 10:15:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I just want you to know that I GOT THAT 28-04-2019 10:15:33 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Pumsy said that because canonically that wish has been made before. Many times. Always prefaced with that same question. 28-04-2019 10:16:02 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "no, you are not jesus" 28-04-2019 10:18:19 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "Sorry..." 28-04-2019 10:18:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...guess she has correct domain for time fuckery. :P 28-04-2019 10:19:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Cyberpunk Chalice would be.. 28-04-2019 10:19:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Now let's watch her make that wish, causing her to join the team and Mina to be alive again, with Asha leaving, putting us back at four and I have to keep waiting. 28-04-2019 10:19:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yay. 28-04-2019 10:20:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Visor. 28-04-2019 10:22:00 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: That won't happen, ER. 28-04-2019 10:22:19 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Though if she really does make that wish, well, it'll be interesting. 28-04-2019 10:22:33 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Fun, even, in a DF sense. 28-04-2019 10:22:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: Does Twin even want to still play? 28-04-2019 10:23:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: she just disappears. "what happened?" "oh, she traveled back in time, thus creating a new branch. We're not that one." 28-04-2019 10:24:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: ..Yeah, I can see that happening. 28-04-2019 10:25:02 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Twin seemed unhappy about Mina's death, in a "I want to keep playing" way, but Twin's not coming back. 28-04-2019 10:25:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: ...well, if Twin wanted Mina to not die, then maybe Twin should have done something. 28-04-2019 10:26:04 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: `1 28-04-2019 10:26:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: endless doomed timelines is pretty thematic, too. :P 28-04-2019 10:26:13 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Or continued to not do anything at all. 28-04-2019 10:26:33 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: have you tried GITTING GUD!?!?!?! 28-04-2019 10:27:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: ok. 28-04-2019 10:27:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: night. 28-04-2019 10:27:25 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Night. 28-04-2019 10:27:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: <3 28-04-2019 10:28:28 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the proper edgy character response to "did mina find another way out?" is "not yet." by the way 28-04-2019 10:29:53 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Unfortunately, precisely zero of the current characters are edgy. 28-04-2019 10:30:00 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: That should change soon, though! 28-04-2019 10:30:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: edgy? 28-04-2019 10:30:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you have only yourself to blame for this sad fact! 28-04-2019 10:32:30 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: We've got a happy social rich girl with a broadly great life, a depressive passive sadsack who's the exact opposite of her, the too-smart daughter of a disapeared Russian gangster whose remaining family largely hates her, and the poor girl with many siblings and only one surviving parent. 28-04-2019 10:32:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Lots of sadness, very little edge. 28-04-2019 10:34:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I oughta try cheering them up! 28-04-2019 10:34:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: everything can be happy and fun so long as nobody asks anything about me. 28-04-2019 10:35:39 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I look forward to Sophia of all people being a cheerful, happy, inspiring individual. 28-04-2019 10:36:04 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: TBH I've always expected her to be the Kyouko-like one. 28-04-2019 10:36:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: as the pure it's my resonsability to keep everyone working together and happy, which is not something the current group is very good at. 28-04-2019 10:37:27 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Considering another pure will join at the same time, how will that intersect eith her presence? 28-04-2019 10:37:47 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ritual combat for control of the team. 28-04-2019 10:38:12 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hmm. 28-04-2019 10:38:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: like two male deers competing for mates but only the parts of that that are okay in this context. 28-04-2019 10:39:21 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'm really quite unsure who would win in a match between Sophia and Ada. Prooobably Ada, because she's got a soul advantage? But maybe Sophia would burst her down, and Sophia does have a heal. It'd likely come down to luck. 28-04-2019 10:39:56 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Nah, Sophia would Inner Monster, and that'd kinda just fuck over Ada. 28-04-2019 10:40:01 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Probably. 28-04-2019 10:40:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: what if I don't wanna 28-04-2019 10:40:32 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You just had the GM give you the best strat. 28-04-2019 10:40:38 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Why WOULDN'T you? 28-04-2019 10:40:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: confronting what's inside of me is fun and all except no it's not any fun at all I'd like to stop now 28-04-2019 10:43:02 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Heh. 28-04-2019 10:43:25 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: That's a pity, I really wanna write about what happened to your witch form. 28-04-2019 10:44:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also, current inner monster success rate is 0% 28-04-2019 10:45:04 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: :) 28-04-2019 10:45:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also, it seems too lethal for a magical girl duel? and like, prone to collateral damage? 28-04-2019 10:45:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: :) 28-04-2019 10:45:39 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's Summon Bigger Fish. But last time you tried it, you were already inside a whale. 28-04-2019 10:45:48 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Ada's no whale, she's barely a shark. 28-04-2019 10:46:43 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, you're already quite low on soul, so that just means the fish will be even *bigger*. 28-04-2019 10:46:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: how about we forget what I said and have a nice armwrestling competition with Ada. 28-04-2019 10:46:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Or just a hug. Hugs are nice. 28-04-2019 10:47:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: at some point it stops being "summon bigger fish" and starts being "summon apocaliptic force. also kill yourself." 28-04-2019 10:49:10 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: That's when you cast it and immediately run away! 28-04-2019 10:50:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: right, and run faster than your friend rather than faster than the bear 28-04-2019 10:52:10 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Well, if you can't run faster than a bear, maybe you shouldn't summon one. 28-04-2019 10:52:37 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Or at least take levels in "Summon bear that probably won't kill me." 28-04-2019 10:53:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I took level 2 in that rather than something nice like level 2 mind control because I wanted it and having level 1 is... not helpful? 28-04-2019 10:54:39 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's super helpful! Just only in select situations. 28-04-2019 10:55:21 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also I happen to not know anything about Ada currently. 28-04-2019 10:55:47 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's almost as powerful as soul nova, it's cheaper at L1, and has much more sustain to it. Higher levels grant a similar degree of ally-protection, while still being cheaper, too. 28-04-2019 10:55:53 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I didn't know we'd have two pures! Hopefully our powers complement each other? 28-04-2019 10:56:26 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Admittedly, Soul Nova would've probably been able to either kill or seriously impair Isabella, when Inner Monster was kinda swatted aside like a gnat, but so it goes. 28-04-2019 10:57:37 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: how dare you casually defeat my inner fears, and doubts? Those are VERY important to me! 28-04-2019 10:58:13 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Death and Rage overpower a merely Corrupt soul. 28-04-2019 10:59:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: my pessimism and self-loathing are the most powerful parts of me! 28-04-2019 11:00:55 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hum. That might be a problem. Self-loathing isn't on this list of seven miserable emotions. 28-04-2019 11:01:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yes! I'm an innovator! 28-04-2019 11:02:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the fact that I've created new and novel ways to feel like trash makes me happy, which in turn improves my life expectancy! 28-04-2019 11:03:41 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the glass may be full of caltrops and rattlesnake venom, but it's half-full, dammit 28-04-2019 11:03:57 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Nah it's just not a miserable enough emotion to draw much power from it. 28-04-2019 11:04:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It totally exists and is common; just look at Asha. It's just not powerful; just look at Asha. 28-04-2019 11:04:51 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: everything is looking up for Sophia! 28-04-2019 11:05:37 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yes, up, where all the witches are. 28-04-2019 11:06:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'll kick their asses with the power of friendship and also the darkness crawling within my soul 28-04-2019 11:07:16 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: That's the spirit! 28-04-2019 11:08:58 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'll figure out which one to use depending on the situation 28-04-2019 11:12:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: tell me about Ada though! 28-04-2019 11:14:17 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Narcissist, lots of dense fluff information about her, kind've difficult to keep straight in my head. 28-04-2019 11:14:33 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hates anyone being better than her, uncomfortably close to my own flaws. 28-04-2019 11:15:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oof 28-04-2019 11:15:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: going to need a LOT of hugs for this one 28-04-2019 11:15:28 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Amusingly, she is inherently inferior to Sophia, because Sophia has killed a L27 witch, and has gotten levels and junk for that. 28-04-2019 11:15:42 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: So yeah, she'll probably really really hate Sophia. 28-04-2019 11:15:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: or maybe weaponized crushing despair, I'll leave the option open. 28-04-2019 11:16:07 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Well she can be my Lancer. 28-04-2019 11:16:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Because I'm obviously the hero! 28-04-2019 11:18:00 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Nah. Aleksandra's obviously the Hero. 28-04-2019 11:18:22 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Sophia is her lancer, Alida is her mentor, and Ada is the sixth ranger traitor. 28-04-2019 11:19:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I can't be Aleksandra's Lancer, I want to hug her too much 28-04-2019 11:19:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Mina was the... I don't know? Black dude dies first? Redshirt? The char that exists just to die early on so you know things are dangerous. 28-04-2019 11:20:11 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And Asha is... uhh. Troping her is hard, the heart, maaaybe? 28-04-2019 11:20:11 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: okay, that might depend on the context in which we meet and contenue to interact with each other but that's my current imporession 28-04-2019 11:20:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Asha is a gritty deconstruction of a heart, of course. 28-04-2019 11:20:50 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And Tooru's the big guy. 28-04-2019 11:20:59 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Ah. Yeah. Like the chubby girl in SSSS. 28-04-2019 11:21:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: alas, poor Tuuri 28-04-2019 11:21:40 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah, her. 28-04-2019 11:21:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: she died so that everyone else could live on, because the artist doesn't have the heart to do it to anyone else :V 28-04-2019 11:22:32 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Apparently TvTropes has localizations. I accidentally went into the French version, where they call The Lancer "Le Second". 28-04-2019 11:22:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: because SSSS, despite the name, is mostly cosy adventure with cute characters 28-04-2019 11:23:58 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeaaah, Sophia is totally Aleksandra's foil, at least if they both live up to their potential. 28-04-2019 11:25:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: we shall see! I personally have faith in the director and writers~ 28-04-2019 11:25:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: real class act, there 28-04-2019 11:30:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hm 28-04-2019 11:31:07 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: if a ward somehow manages to live for a really long time, will they have birthdays and get older? 28-04-2019 11:33:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: A ward is just a human tagalong, so yeah? If they don't die, they'll age as any human. 28-04-2019 11:39:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hard mode: survive as a ward long enough to get too old and grow out of these silly games 28-04-2019 11:39:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Literally impossible. 28-04-2019 11:39:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Well, maybe not. 28-04-2019 11:39:56 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Very very close to impossible. 28-04-2019 11:40:59 -!- syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr has quit [Quit: Definitely a psyv.] 28-04-2019 11:41:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: alternatively, just figure out the "mortal danger" thing is kinda serious and run away 28-04-2019 11:48:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: okay bye <3 28-04-2019 11:48:56 -!- ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 28-04-2019 17:45:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: "Rioting is a great french tradition, like pastry and affairs." 28-04-2019 17:49:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: ...true, yeah. 28-04-2019 19:54:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: http://www.scarygoround.com/badmachinery/index.php?date=20170110 28-04-2019 19:54:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@wniv-5q9jd4en6mtc6bra5lc69noga.ipv1.telus.net: It takes effort to make backstories like that.