19-02-2019 00:03:16 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@73-679-09-73.lsv2.qwest.net: Tactichell is better because its a pun
19-02-2019 00:03:25 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@73-679-09-73.lsv2.qwest.net: because it sounds like Tactical
19-02-2019 00:03:30 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@73-679-09-73.lsv2.qwest.net: Tactic-hell
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19-02-2019 00:20:51 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: I agree with Dubs, and will from now on write it "Tactichell"
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19-02-2019 00:22:17 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Hello there.
19-02-2019 00:22:27 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: ...!
19-02-2019 00:22:46 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Midnight.  Jaguar.  Catgirl.  What color is Rakiit's hair/fur?
19-02-2019 00:23:33 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: ...Brown.  Disappoint.  Even though I'm oretty sure OG Rakiit is brown too.
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19-02-2019 00:36:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: heya syv.
19-02-2019 00:36:38 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: heya dev.
19-02-2019 00:36:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I hope MJ does some player vs player in tachell.
19-02-2019 00:37:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: how are you doing?
19-02-2019 00:37:47 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Decent enough.
19-02-2019 00:38:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: that's good.
19-02-2019 00:38:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: reading the OL novels.
19-02-2019 00:39:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I wouldn't call them amazing, but they aren't too bad.
19-02-2019 00:39:17 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Really?
19-02-2019 00:39:33 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Webnovels, or the professional one?
19-02-2019 00:40:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: the professional one.
19-02-2019 00:40:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: the webnovels have poor to bad quality translations.
19-02-2019 00:41:00 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Unsurprisingly.
19-02-2019 00:41:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Yeah.  It's what you'd expect from unpaid volunteers.
19-02-2019 00:41:26 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: I've tried reading a couple translated webnovels, invariably *horrendous*.  Like, unreadably so.
19-02-2019 00:41:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I think my standards have went down a bit from Elventide's game.
19-02-2019 00:41:59 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: There's quite a number of VNs well-translated by unpaid volunteers.
19-02-2019 00:42:06 < * Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp nods
19-02-2019 00:42:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: But you know what I mean.
19-02-2019 00:42:14 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Well, yeah.
19-02-2019 00:42:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: sometimes you get good translations, but most of the time it's poor to bad.
19-02-2019 00:42:24 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Plus even most OEL web novels are terrible.
19-02-2019 00:42:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: There is more rules stuff.
19-02-2019 00:42:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Martial Arts have just been explained.
19-02-2019 00:43:26 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Link me?  I might check it out.
19-02-2019 00:43:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: They're like..slots.  You get one slot every fiveish levels, at least for humans.  You can have one rank of martial arts per slot.
19-02-2019 00:43:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: one sec.
19-02-2019 00:44:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: You can learn more martial arts, and some take up more than one slot, but you can have X slots full.  Some are continual buffs, some are attack moves, etc.
19-02-2019 00:45:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: so if you buff yourself to the gills, you can't pull out your fancy moves.
19-02-2019 00:45:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: but you can have both.
19-02-2019 00:48:38 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Has it stated anything about Pandora's Actor's build yet?
19-02-2019 00:49:10 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: I saw what you said in the logs, and am pretty surprised about Albedo being a defensive build (Stacking immunities, I assume), but nothing about PA.
19-02-2019 00:49:51 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: My personal guess is that he's a UMD-focused rogue, or something similar.  A versatile martial character who uses craptons of magic items to mimic a caster.
19-02-2019 00:52:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: He's not that brutal.  Seems to be just about the only illusionist they have, though.
19-02-2019 00:52:14 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Aww.
19-02-2019 00:52:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I think he's there to take care of sneaky threats.
19-02-2019 00:52:34 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: I suppose Illusionist kinda fots with doppelganger, though IMO it overlaps way too much.
19-02-2019 00:53:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Yeah.  He's not much of a caster.  More a fighter.
19-02-2019 00:53:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Weak to direct damage.
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19-02-2019 01:25:22 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@84.sub-269-318-235.myvzw.com: Lo
19-02-2019 01:25:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: 'lo, MJ.
19-02-2019 01:25:35 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@84.sub-269-318-235.myvzw.com: Lo sev
19-02-2019 01:25:38 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@84.sub-269-318-235.myvzw.com: ^dev
19-02-2019 01:26:17 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: sev is halfway between dev and syv.  :(
19-02-2019 01:26:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: :(
19-02-2019 01:29:42 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@84.sub-269-318-235.myvzw.com: It is kinda funny I’m playing a char that hates the standard archetype I play
19-02-2019 01:31:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: don't worry.
19-02-2019 01:31:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I just hope you murder the doc and steal whatever drugs he has on him.
19-02-2019 01:31:47 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@84.sub-269-318-235.myvzw.com: And that another guy is playing the archetype I play.
19-02-2019 01:34:37 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@84.sub-269-318-235.myvzw.com: Also I’m not sure he’ll have drugs. He has a scalpel as his possession
19-02-2019 01:35:04 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Which is possibly the worst possible "doctor" possession he could have chosen.
19-02-2019 01:36:18 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@84.sub-269-318-235.myvzw.com: Yeah. I was thinking for Sean he’d have either like a Suture kit or like a first aid kit or something. Scalpel is just a very delicate  sharp ass knife.
19-02-2019 01:36:22 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: "Ah yes, the other players have chosen... full plate armor, a light machine gun, and a book of maddening occult secrets.  What could possibly be on the level of these items, hmm?  Oh, I know!  A shitty knife!"
19-02-2019 01:37:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: :D
19-02-2019 01:37:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I am suprised at the lack of drugs, actually.
19-02-2019 01:37:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I thought they were a thing in tachell.
19-02-2019 01:37:47 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@84.sub-269-318-235.myvzw.com: They are defiantly a thing in Tachell
19-02-2019 01:38:05 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@84.sub-269-318-235.myvzw.com: I’ll learn to spell definetlly eventually
19-02-2019 01:38:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Indeed.
19-02-2019 01:38:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Hmm, the lack of equipment might mean extra cash.
19-02-2019 01:38:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: so you can then trade that for stuff.
19-02-2019 01:39:02 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: "Extra" cash?
19-02-2019 01:39:11 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: We don't have any cash at all, pretty sure.
19-02-2019 01:39:31 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@84.sub-269-318-235.myvzw.com: Yeah. Rakiiit is going to look at the shop and see if there are drugs though
19-02-2019 01:39:50 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: At the very least, Alexander and Rakiit simply wouldn't have fungible currency due to their backstories, while the scribe... I have doubts.
19-02-2019 01:39:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: If there are drugs, are you going to be able to walk away without them?
19-02-2019 01:40:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Extra can just mean 'the amount beyond zero.'
19-02-2019 01:40:14 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@84.sub-269-318-235.myvzw.com: Probably not.
19-02-2019 01:40:41 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: I still doubt having a scalpel would mean he gets cash in return.
19-02-2019 01:41:06 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@84.sub-269-318-235.myvzw.com: I’m not even entirely sure that Amph has an understanding of currency at all
19-02-2019 01:41:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Who knows?  But if you suggest it it might happen.
19-02-2019 01:42:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: It's.. prooobably less likely if you instakill him, though.
19-02-2019 01:43:56 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: If she has comprehension of what a mercenary is, she'd know.  Or arguably comprehension of "slave", since she'd likely be sold as one.
19-02-2019 01:45:13 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@84.sub-269-318-235.myvzw.com: Yeah. She’d probably know what currency is. But was probably not super familiar with concept of actually handling it.
19-02-2019 01:45:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: ...
19-02-2019 01:45:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Can she read?
19-02-2019 01:46:23 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@84.sub-269-318-235.myvzw.com: Maybe.
19-02-2019 01:46:31 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@84.sub-269-318-235.myvzw.com: Probably at a very basic level.
19-02-2019 01:46:38 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@84.sub-269-318-235.myvzw.com: If that.
19-02-2019 01:47:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: (probably.)  They would have wanted her to understand certain instructions.
19-02-2019 01:47:04 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@84.sub-269-318-235.myvzw.com: If only because it makes it easier to give order if Text is an option
19-02-2019 01:47:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: So some level of it is likely, as she was in a lab.
19-02-2019 01:51:00 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Also, if she was supposed to be a soldier, writing would be VERY VERY useful to teach.
19-02-2019 01:51:48 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: So maybe her knowledge is very stilted towards battlefield tactics and terms, but I'd expect her to be able to communicate effectively with writing.
19-02-2019 01:52:16 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@84.sub-269-318-235.myvzw.com: That’s true
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19-02-2019 01:59:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Yeah.  Illiterate soldiers are a thing that went out of style in the 19th century.
19-02-2019 02:03:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Heh.
19-02-2019 02:04:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Clementine got introduced, and described repeatedly as 'cat-like'
19-02-2019 02:05:58 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: She's still not a catgirl, even if she was deliberately designed to evoke that aesthetic.
19-02-2019 02:06:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: No, but it's amusing to read it.
19-02-2019 02:07:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Also, heterochromia girl has Clementine outlevelled.
19-02-2019 02:08:27 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: The only chars I recall definitely having heterochromia were the elf twins.
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19-02-2019 02:08:40 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: So... more specific, plox?
19-02-2019 02:08:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: The one scene bit at the introduction of season 2.
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19-02-2019 02:08:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: with the rubiks cube.
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19-02-2019 02:09:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Apparently her job is to keep anyone from breaking into the vault there.
19-02-2019 02:09:46 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: ...Did she ever appear elsewhere in S2?
19-02-2019 02:10:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Nope!
19-02-2019 02:10:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: The other guy there is comparable to Clementine.
19-02-2019 02:10:51 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Clementine didn't seem to be super high class, honestly.
19-02-2019 02:11:17 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: I was figuring somewhere around the high twenties, if the maids are ~60.
19-02-2019 02:11:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: She's around 35.
19-02-2019 02:12:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: About on par with Gazef.  A little stronger.  Gazef could probably take her with his fancy gear, but not otherwise.
19-02-2019 02:12:15 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Huh.  Has Khajiit's level been specified?
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19-02-2019 02:13:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: how much description do the four fools who Sebas oneshots get?
19-02-2019 02:14:29 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: He's prolly not that far in, if he's only just talking about the intro to S2.
19-02-2019 02:15:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: fine. :P
19-02-2019 02:15:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I figure the Khajiit is a pure caster around the same level as clem. So even more terrifying them her, but also she could stab him in the face.
19-02-2019 02:16:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Clem's a long step weaker.
19-02-2019 02:16:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: sorry.
19-02-2019 02:16:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: the caster is a long step weaker.
19-02-2019 02:17:02 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Likely, but he *could* be weaker.  The fact that Nabe, who's L65 at most and crossclass (maybe?) so completely outclass... yep.
19-02-2019 02:17:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: And it's not the intro to S2.  It's Clementine's introduction, and she talks about those people.
19-02-2019 02:17:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I'm reading Clem and Khajiits intro.
19-02-2019 02:17:25 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: (Devastator) Also, heterochromia girl has Clementine outlevelled.
19-02-2019 02:17:25 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: (Devastator) The one scene bit at the introduction of season 2.
19-02-2019 02:17:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Yeah.
19-02-2019 02:17:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: ..I'm mentioning where she appears in the anime.
19-02-2019 02:17:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: which you have seen.
19-02-2019 02:17:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: as opposed to where she's mentioned in the book I'm reading.
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19-02-2019 02:17:59 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: How do you know shewas the
19-02-2019 02:18:06 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: *she's the same char?
19-02-2019 02:18:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: He was relying on his summons being immune to spells, not knowing that they're technically immune to spells level 6 or lower. Which is higher than just about any human in that universe can use.
19-02-2019 02:18:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I'm not 100%, but the description seems fairly clear.
19-02-2019 02:21:08 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Oh sweet, Dragonman changed his scalpel to a FAK.  That means Rakiit has even more overwhelming odds of success, and we get a free FAk.
19-02-2019 02:21:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: aw
19-02-2019 02:21:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: double sweet.
19-02-2019 02:21:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I was looking forwards to giving that scapel terrible stats
19-02-2019 02:21:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Maybe dragonman figured out that he can't actually catch up to the catgirl.
19-02-2019 02:22:05 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Maybe I told him explicitly to change it to a FAK.
19-02-2019 02:22:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Heh.
19-02-2019 02:24:09 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Hey, ER, how does the snapshot % work, precisely?  Since the LMG has 20, does that mean it has an 80% chance of missing on a snapshot, regardless of the user's accuracy roll?
19-02-2019 02:24:29 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: https://youtu.be/svWFk7h0OdM
19-02-2019 02:24:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yes
19-02-2019 02:25:34 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Next question: can multiple evade actions in a turn, against different enemies, stack?  So if you want to dodge three gunmen, you can roll three evades?
19-02-2019 02:25:39 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: That's actually hilarious ER.
19-02-2019 02:25:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yes.
19-02-2019 02:26:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you can dodge as much as you want, just need to divide your attention between attackers
19-02-2019 02:26:25 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Is there any penalty?
19-02-2019 02:26:47 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: 'Cause at Rakiit's agility, she'll virtually never fail.
19-02-2019 02:26:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Not other than ending your turn if you fail the agility roll
19-02-2019 02:26:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: yes.
19-02-2019 02:27:56 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Can an evade be rerolled by evading again?  Say, if you got a 10 or 11, evade again so you get a chance of 14 or something?
19-02-2019 02:28:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nope.
19-02-2019 02:28:55 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Okay.  So Rakiit is *very* evasive, but not completely absurd.
19-02-2019 02:29:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: turns out that I don't want to roll 200 times for someone with +5 Agility to finally roll max
19-02-2019 02:29:46 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Autoroller ER.
19-02-2019 02:30:05 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: For shit that simple I'll just make a simple python script for you.
19-02-2019 02:30:17 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Or, hell, just teach you how.  That's like four lines of code.
19-02-2019 02:30:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Just gotta get it to +6.  Then it'll be absurd.
19-02-2019 02:30:19 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I probably should have made the defensive actions cost focus or stamina or something
19-02-2019 02:30:23 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: +5 is max, Dev.
19-02-2019 02:30:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I have no idea how the stats work anyhow.
19-02-2019 02:30:44 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Didn't I suggest that?  Making parry and evade both need 1 focus?
19-02-2019 02:30:51 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I dunno?
19-02-2019 02:30:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: don't remember that
19-02-2019 02:31:00 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: well you should do it.
19-02-2019 02:31:01 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I new that sacraficibng everything for agility would pay off in the end~
19-02-2019 02:31:10 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: ^knew
19-02-2019 02:31:27 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: I also suggested allowing people to roll accuracy even when they're already going to hit, to force a critical.
19-02-2019 02:31:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...and the "sacraficibng" was totally intentional?
19-02-2019 02:31:52 -!- Piecewise__ is now known as piecewise
19-02-2019 02:32:11 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: No, but I can't sacrafice easilly
19-02-2019 02:32:25 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: That word's just impossible to spell, so no point trying to correct it. :P
19-02-2019 02:32:40 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: exactly ~
19-02-2019 02:33:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: SACRIFICE
19-02-2019 02:33:23 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: NOTHING
19-02-2019 02:34:15 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Srfacicie.
19-02-2019 02:34:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: these rules could certainly be better refined
19-02-2019 02:35:13 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Srfacicie nhinotg in the end.  Poor ciohe of wrdos.
19-02-2019 02:35:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Other people are supposed to drop that word on you, ER.
19-02-2019 02:35:50 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: *cioche
19-02-2019 02:35:50 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Nah that's just what mad doctor in Tachhell appears to be :P
19-02-2019 02:36:07 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: *Tactichell.
19-02-2019 02:36:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Taciochell
19-02-2019 02:36:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: puns are bad
19-02-2019 02:36:55 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: It's weird saying Mad doctor character and not be referring to one of mine.
19-02-2019 02:37:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's Tachel though.
19-02-2019 02:37:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Welcome to the team, MJ.  It'll be weird if Alida lives long enough to get fluffy.
19-02-2019 02:37:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Tachel is probably the name of the universe
19-02-2019 02:37:42 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Rhymes with "satchel"?
19-02-2019 02:37:47 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Heh.
19-02-2019 02:38:11 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: more like "tackle"
19-02-2019 02:38:58 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: It should be spelled "Tac'hel", then, to split up the "ch".
19-02-2019 02:39:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: tackel
19-02-2019 02:41:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Pickle.
19-02-2019 02:41:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh, one thing.
19-02-2019 02:42:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I don't think that Rakiit was necessarily trained as a soldier at all.
19-02-2019 02:42:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: There's a difference between a biomodded solider and a test subject for military biomods.
19-02-2019 02:43:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: The former is functional, and the latter is not?
19-02-2019 02:46:33 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Hmm, I'm not sure why she'd have good aim though
19-02-2019 02:46:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Testing would presumably include some level of weapon use.
19-02-2019 02:47:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Aim is easier to test than overall field performence.
19-02-2019 02:47:19 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Also: She does not have good aim.
19-02-2019 02:47:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: what is it, +0?
19-02-2019 02:47:36 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Yep.
19-02-2019 02:47:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, that's reasonable
19-02-2019 02:47:52 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: She doesn't have aim as bad as the medieval crusader, or the two noncombatants.
19-02-2019 02:47:57 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I thought she had a +1
19-02-2019 02:48:57 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: ...Bah, yes, +1.
19-02-2019 02:49:09 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: I was sure it was +0.  >.<
19-02-2019 02:49:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hah
19-02-2019 02:50:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: okay, so she's had practice shooting. Explains why she'd attached to the machinegun, ybh
19-02-2019 03:04:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: "Of course, he was no mere penguin—he was a type of grotesque called a birdman, as well as the assistant butler, Éclair Éklair Éklare."
19-02-2019 03:04:47 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: birb
19-02-2019 03:04:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: "Normally birdmen would, like the Supreme Being Peroroncino, have the head and wings of a bird of prey, as well as bird parts from the elbows and knees down, but for some reason this man was a penguin. Demiurge didn’t question it."
19-02-2019 03:05:26 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Eh?  Angel type rather than harpy type?  Boring and stupid.
19-02-2019 03:05:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: bug birbs
19-02-2019 03:06:59 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Corven make me sad, just not having wings at all.
19-02-2019 03:07:23 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Indeed.
19-02-2019 03:07:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: 'knees down'
19-02-2019 03:07:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Would Mina be more balanced in flight with wings replacing arms?
19-02-2019 03:08:01 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Also strange Dev, yes.
19-02-2019 03:08:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Probably, but that would have meant no halberd.
19-02-2019 03:08:11 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Yeah, I'd say so.
19-02-2019 03:08:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Plus removing someone's arms seemed like too much, even with permission to use shapechange.
19-02-2019 03:09:35 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Just change her legs so she can carry and use the halberd with those
19-02-2019 03:10:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Sounds good.
19-02-2019 03:10:55 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Agreed.
19-02-2019 03:11:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I think she's got enough going on it'd be hard to explain to others.
19-02-2019 03:11:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I am curious how far the ignorance of magic stuff goes.
19-02-2019 03:11:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I somehow doubt it extends to not noticing large, functional wings.
19-02-2019 03:11:52 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: You'll see~
19-02-2019 03:12:01 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Unless Mina removes them I guess.
19-02-2019 03:12:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that's the advantage of just gluing wings to your back. you can cut slice them off when you don't need them anymore~
19-02-2019 03:12:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Seems likely.
19-02-2019 03:13:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I think I shrank her some, too.
19-02-2019 03:14:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: "A severed limb will disappear if you cast a healing spell on a stub. So if you heal the stub after force-feeding a human an arm, what happens to the nutritional value? If repeated, would the subject starve to death?”
19-02-2019 03:14:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Ahh, Demiurge.
19-02-2019 03:15:24 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Stop quoting him, he's already my favorite, there's nowhere for him to go after that.  >.<
19-02-2019 03:15:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Heh.
19-02-2019 03:15:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I'm sorry, I was quoting and that line came up.
19-02-2019 03:15:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: He's also got a good english VA.
19-02-2019 03:15:54 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Demiurge is great
19-02-2019 03:16:16 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: He has a merely decent Jap VA, but the rest of the Eng cast sucks, so...
19-02-2019 03:26:52 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I dunno, Ainz is decent
19-02-2019 03:27:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: japan ainz is the best tho
19-02-2019 03:27:12 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Ainz is meh and terrible.
19-02-2019 03:27:25 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: While Japan Ainz is AWESOME and terrible.
19-02-2019 03:27:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and every single time someone casts a spell in japanese is amazing
19-02-2019 03:27:48 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Also ER if Amph is seen as a test experiment does she still have a concept of money? Or pprivate possesions really?
19-02-2019 03:28:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Ahh.
19-02-2019 03:28:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I'll have to watch it in japanese with subs when we do S3 eventually.
19-02-2019 03:28:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: eh, up to you. Really it's all up to you, I'm just giving my perspective, it's your character tho
19-02-2019 03:28:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: to get the FULL AINZ EXPERIENCE.
19-02-2019 03:29:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ICEY BURSTOOO
19-02-2019 03:29:33 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I mean I could certainlly see lab experiment more than biosolider
19-02-2019 03:30:27 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: The dub should have the actors should the ability names in Japanese.
19-02-2019 03:30:33 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: *shout the
19-02-2019 03:30:42 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah
19-02-2019 03:31:46 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: "I CAST KAWAII KUMO NANI!"
19-02-2019 03:32:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: oh, speaking of that, syv, in a turn or so I need to do a heroic speech for Saeko.  I'd love a gibberish Japanese phrase to shout out.
19-02-2019 03:33:01 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: "Kumo desu ga, nani ka!"
19-02-2019 03:33:11 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: That one's just stuck in my head.
19-02-2019 03:33:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: What's it mean?
19-02-2019 03:33:44 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: "I'm a spider, so what?" IIRC.
19-02-2019 03:33:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Works for me.
19-02-2019 03:34:02 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Name of an Isekai web novel.  Sadly, it sucks.
19-02-2019 03:34:14 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: One of the unreadable translations I mentioned.
19-02-2019 03:34:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Oh, was that the one you were talking about?
19-02-2019 03:34:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: with the spider harem?
19-02-2019 03:34:26 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: No...?
19-02-2019 03:34:30 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Spider harem...?
19-02-2019 03:34:39 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: That was dubs Dev
19-02-2019 03:34:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: kek
19-02-2019 03:35:19 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: I'm not opposed to it, but I know nothing that's about or involves a spider harem.
19-02-2019 03:35:36 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Hmm, syv what would you think about a bio experiment knowing currency then.
19-02-2019 03:36:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: They might have trained her with a reward system.
19-02-2019 03:36:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: which is like currency.
19-02-2019 03:36:10 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: That's true
19-02-2019 03:36:21 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: I'll go with "it could be justified, so say she understands it vaugely"
19-02-2019 03:41:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: now what do you reward a bio experiment with?
19-02-2019 03:41:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: laser pointer chase time?
19-02-2019 03:41:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: fish
19-02-2019 03:41:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: raw fish
19-02-2019 03:41:56 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Catnip?
19-02-2019 03:42:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: well, it's MJ's catgirl.
19-02-2019 03:42:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Maybe they give her stimulants and toss her into a ball pit.
19-02-2019 03:43:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I wonder what a cat would make of a ball pit..
19-02-2019 03:43:06 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Live mice.
19-02-2019 03:43:47 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Probably mice and stimulants.
19-02-2019 03:43:55 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Possibly mice on stimulatns.
19-02-2019 03:44:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Hey, you'd probably get some follow-on effect from them.
19-02-2019 03:44:44 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Perhaps there was a barter system when they tested how she could work i na unit
19-02-2019 03:44:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Mice on stimulants with LSD buttons on their skin.
19-02-2019 03:45:28 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: heh, that's if she was really obediant.
19-02-2019 03:48:54 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: syv what's a happy cat look like?
19-02-2019 03:49:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: a sleeping cat.
19-02-2019 03:49:21 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Fair.
19-02-2019 03:49:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: tail flick
19-02-2019 03:50:06 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Thinned or closed eyes.  Tail up if it's coming to greet someone.
19-02-2019 03:50:45 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: https://www.petmd.com/sites/default/files/petmd-cat-happy-4.jpg
19-02-2019 03:51:12 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ^_^
19-02-2019 03:55:09 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Cool
19-02-2019 03:59:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: happy cat.
19-02-2019 04:10:40 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: action is posted
19-02-2019 04:13:04 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Also FAK? First Aid kit?
19-02-2019 04:13:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: FHAK
19-02-2019 04:13:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: :D
19-02-2019 04:13:35 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's a first aid kit
19-02-2019 04:14:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Better loot.
19-02-2019 04:14:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: and more likely to contain drugs.
19-02-2019 04:15:40 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: It is funny, he could literally be a scientest that Rakiit killed at some point and it would go better than the char he's playing
19-02-2019 04:16:45 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: ...Maybe.
19-02-2019 04:16:54 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: There is a chance it would go better
19-02-2019 04:18:48 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: v
19-02-2019 04:18:50 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7mZfWK7LlxI
19-02-2019 04:19:15 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: What I'm currently wasting time watching.  It's good.
19-02-2019 04:19:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: oh?
19-02-2019 04:19:26 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I see.
19-02-2019 04:19:57 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Twelve minutes in and he hasn't reached the first fog gate
19-02-2019 04:20:03 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: He
19-02-2019 04:20:14 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: 's kinda bad, but that just makes it better.
19-02-2019 04:20:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Okay, I think we've found our guy.
19-02-2019 04:20:49 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Oh?
19-02-2019 04:21:18 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Also, he chose my mask.
19-02-2019 04:21:48 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Nic
19-02-2019 04:21:49 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: e
19-02-2019 04:25:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: so what killed him initially?
19-02-2019 04:25:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Oh, Manus.
19-02-2019 04:25:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: rofl.
19-02-2019 04:26:29 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Oh, it's a whole series!
19-02-2019 04:26:37 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Nice.
19-02-2019 04:31:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: you too good for that mod, syv?
19-02-2019 04:32:42 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: No?  I'm certainly more skilled than them, and have it already.
19-02-2019 04:32:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I meant to make it entertaining.
19-02-2019 04:35:23 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Ahhh.  Hard to say.  Depends on what's entertaining; I'd die, certainly.  But there would be a lot more boring time than that vid, since it's heavily edited.
19-02-2019 04:36:03 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: ...Are we sure this man is not Dubs? It's the clearlly being in Arizona and the anime jokes that's getting to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjugsyOKNvg
19-02-2019 04:36:13 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Also, seed really, really matters.  Down in New Londo, the bad spawns didn't matter since they were T-posed, but Artorias + Super S + Seath would be near impossible in most areas.
19-02-2019 04:36:21 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: ~
19-02-2019 04:36:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Dubs has done his own youtube videos before.
19-02-2019 04:36:48 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I've forgotten whats dub's voice sounds like.
19-02-2019 04:36:57 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Oh, THAT guy.
19-02-2019 04:37:13 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: No, it's not Dubs, Dubs isn't anywhere near as much of an asshole.
19-02-2019 04:37:24 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Also, he sounds very different, yeah.
19-02-2019 04:37:28 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I haven't really see him be an asshole.
19-02-2019 04:37:39 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I've only watched two of his vids though
19-02-2019 04:37:40 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0FW23bamIZI
19-02-2019 04:38:19 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: He claims all the footage is his, claims all the stories are his, and then announces that he's starting a Patreon to support himself, despite all the footage and stories being stolen.
19-02-2019 04:38:33 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Ah. That is extremlly assholish.
19-02-2019 04:38:53 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: And when one of the people whose footage he stole posted a comment, not even all that insulted, he deleted it.
19-02-2019 04:39:32 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Damn.
19-02-2019 04:39:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: guy needs a better weapon.
19-02-2019 04:40:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: yeah, not suprised at seeing that.
19-02-2019 04:42:03 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: That's not really fixable at that stage of the game.  Need titanite shards to upgrade, even going to Rickert, and getting shards is pure luck.  The fact he got ANY upgrade materials, especially it being demon titanite, is extremely lucky.
19-02-2019 04:42:14 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Huh, yeah looking into. This guy is a massive asshole.
19-02-2019 04:42:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: ahh, yeah.
19-02-2019 04:43:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: good odds of getting a weapon that can use it.
19-02-2019 04:43:26 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Plus, almost all of those weapons are *really good*.
19-02-2019 04:43:45 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Tomato apparently found a blacksmith giant hammer, which is also phenomenal.
19-02-2019 04:44:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: nifty.
19-02-2019 04:45:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: "Satisfied there was no corpse booby trap like he used to use when PK-ing in Yggdrasil"
19-02-2019 04:46:37 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: dead again
19-02-2019 05:07:21 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: ER you should update tachhell. :p
19-02-2019 05:07:33 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: true. so what?
19-02-2019 05:08:06 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: hmm. I don't have a compelling argument prepared.
19-02-2019 05:10:16 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: "We have enabled Pinwheel chaos, meaning every time he summons something, it's a random FULL STRENGTH BOSS."
19-02-2019 05:10:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: seems good
19-02-2019 05:10:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: maybe not pinwheel will be hard. ;P
19-02-2019 05:12:35 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: dev I need a compelling argument for why ER should update tachhell
19-02-2019 05:13:03 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Capra is the hardest in the randomizer, unless you skip.
19-02-2019 05:13:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'm wearing a hat which says "on break" on it
19-02-2019 05:13:08 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Early and his room is tiny.
19-02-2019 05:13:22 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Plus his dogs can be hell.
19-02-2019 05:13:41 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Guess we just need to wait three weeks and he'll switch back sleep.~
19-02-2019 05:14:02 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: ^to
19-02-2019 05:26:50 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: https://youtu.be/LNaYhq_0bpw?t=840s
19-02-2019 05:27:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Heh.
19-02-2019 05:27:28 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well my podcast finished so I could start updating now but instead I'll watch twitch
19-02-2019 05:28:31 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I've never really listened to podcasts
19-02-2019 05:29:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: lol kalameet
19-02-2019 05:29:10 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: What's the like idea behind them? Are you supposed to lisen to them while doing other htings?
19-02-2019 05:29:18 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: `1
19-02-2019 05:29:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Yes.
19-02-2019 05:29:47 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the idea is that you listen to them
19-02-2019 05:29:48 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: I nearly fell off my chair when I realized it was Kalameet.  >.>
19-02-2019 05:29:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: because it's a podcast
19-02-2019 05:30:32 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: looked kinda like an undead dragon up on the tower
19-02-2019 05:31:05 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Would have been so much better.
19-02-2019 05:33:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: ..did one dragon get replaced with the other?
19-02-2019 05:37:48 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Normally it's two gargoyles.  One gargoyle was replaced with little Ornstein, who's essy, and Quelaag was up on the tower, and she's not bad in an open area. They figured they would partially beat O, then have an easy time with Q.
19-02-2019 05:38:37 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: But when they actually activated the boss, it turned out O was second, and *Kalameet*, arguably the hardest boss in the game, was their first.
19-02-2019 05:42:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: whooops.
19-02-2019 05:44:59 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: That'
19-02-2019 05:45:04 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: s quite the struggle
19-02-2019 05:47:12 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Oh, ER so the LMG can it burst fire? Or how does it's firing work?
19-02-2019 05:47:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: heh.
19-02-2019 05:47:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: automatic and burst firing are illusions created by your perception of time, which is fake.
19-02-2019 05:48:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Basically you can just make a bunch of snap shots.
19-02-2019 05:48:18 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I see, so I have an AR with a ludicrious amount of ammo :P
19-02-2019 05:48:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: for the LMG, that means over 100 shots per turn
19-02-2019 05:48:53 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: ....how? I'm still a little confused as to how that works
19-02-2019 05:49:21 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Oh wait I see
19-02-2019 05:49:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: snapshotting doesn't end your turn, or really cost you anything at all
19-02-2019 05:49:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: with an 80% miss chance each.
19-02-2019 05:50:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: so better unload a lot.
19-02-2019 05:50:03 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Appropriate for auto fire.
19-02-2019 05:50:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: 80% miss chance after rolling to hit
19-02-2019 05:50:18 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: ...Same thing.
19-02-2019 05:50:36 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: she only has a +1 to hit :P
19-02-2019 05:50:43 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: So if I fire a 100 rounds I hit 20 shots?
19-02-2019 05:50:43 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: If you roll to hit on only 20% of the shots, results should fuctionally be identical.
19-02-2019 05:50:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: How much reserve ammo do you have?
19-02-2019 05:51:03 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I have a 100 rounds.
19-02-2019 05:51:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: ouch.
19-02-2019 05:51:10 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: The shopkeepers might have more
19-02-2019 05:51:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: how lethal is each round?
19-02-2019 05:51:22 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: If you fire a 100 rounds, you'll get... 12 hits?  I forget the precise % chance of a 10.
19-02-2019 05:51:23 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Yes Rakiit is nothing if not enthusastic
19-02-2019 05:51:33 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Very, Dev.
19-02-2019 05:51:36 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Each round has a lethality of ~83%
19-02-2019 05:51:41 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: oh nice
19-02-2019 05:51:54 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: So If I aim all of my snapshots hit?
19-02-2019 05:52:12 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: If you Aim they're not snapshots.
19-02-2019 05:52:19 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: If you aim all your shots hit.  You can't snapshot after aiming because aiming ends your turn.
19-02-2019 05:52:38 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: But you can shoot at any moment after aiming, including during other people's turns, so the difference is trivial.
19-02-2019 05:53:06 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Also, *about* 100 rounds, MJ.  ER only said it was probably half, it's probably not exactly half.
19-02-2019 05:53:13 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I see. so I could Aim at say a mad doctor and then say I want to fire 25 rounds after aiming and if nothing else happens 25 rounds hit?
19-02-2019 05:54:22 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: You're also allowed to choose whether or not you'll fire another round, so you could have a conditional on there, like "keep firing until he's definitely dead".  Which will happen on the second or third shot, most likely.
19-02-2019 05:54:31 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I see.
19-02-2019 05:54:52 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Hmm, so are there disabling shots in this?
19-02-2019 05:55:15 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: No.  I asked, and wasn't allowed.
19-02-2019 05:55:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: This game work on uber lethality, non lethal is pretty much only going to happen by accident.
19-02-2019 05:55:34 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: What about pain?
19-02-2019 05:55:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Pain can knock someone out.
19-02-2019 05:55:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: 83%..
19-02-2019 05:55:58 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: It says Meele pain 3
19-02-2019 05:56:05 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: I *did* suggest that ER allow an actual accuracy roll while already aiming to target the wound specifically, like hitting a leg deliberately.
19-02-2019 05:56:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: how does that compare to the actual lethality of machinegun rounds?
19-02-2019 05:56:12 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Amazing, Dev.
19-02-2019 05:56:47 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Wouldn't that be more for disabalment versus instant death?
19-02-2019 05:57:00 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: In Tactihell, any time you take lethal damage, you roll 1d6.  1-3 is instantly dead, 4-5 is "not dead, but knocked out of the fight and dead without immediate treatment", 6 is "Just pain and minor injury", IIRC.
19-02-2019 05:57:21 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Also what is AP?
19-02-2019 05:57:31 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Armor pen?
19-02-2019 05:57:35 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Yes.
19-02-2019 05:57:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: ow
19-02-2019 05:57:41 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: AP3 penetrates armor 3.
19-02-2019 05:58:04 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Alexander's plate armor gives him armor 4, so he can tank your gunshots.
19-02-2019 05:58:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Though 83% applies to a creature without Determination or a human who doesn't mind dying. Humans have 3 determination at minimum, so even if you roll a 1 you can pump 3 determination into it and be mortally wounded and dying rather than dead.
19-02-2019 05:58:25 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Ah
19-02-2019 05:58:29 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Yes.  That's why I said it'd actually take 2 or 3 shots.
19-02-2019 05:58:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: If you meet someone with like 7 determination and they want to survive at all costs, that's a 0% lethality.
19-02-2019 05:59:06 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: But if you have a gun they still just die.
19-02-2019 05:59:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yes.
19-02-2019 05:59:29 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Same for Alexander, really.  You can just keep shooting him until he flubs enough resistance rolls to collapse from the pain.
19-02-2019 05:59:29 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: So what I'm hearing is to Aim and then keep shooting until things die.
19-02-2019 05:59:36 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Yeah, pretty much.
19-02-2019 05:59:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: That sounds like how you kill things with a gun.
19-02-2019 06:00:01 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: You can't aim if they're within four tiles, which is the biggest trouble.
19-02-2019 06:00:01 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Though wouldn't I need a bigger gun to pen Alexanders armor?
19-02-2019 06:00:26 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Yes.  But if an attack hits, it always deals its pain damage, even if it doesn't deal lethal damage due to armor.
19-02-2019 06:00:48 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: So Feed Alexander pain meds before shoving him into combat. Got it
19-02-2019 06:00:52 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: If Alexander got ahold of painkillers, he'd be invulnerable to LMG fire, but without them he's merely resistant.
19-02-2019 06:01:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also high rolls can cause maiming and such through armor.
19-02-2019 06:01:20 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: So Amph get's Stims Alexander gets pain killers and scribe gets...shrooms?
19-02-2019 06:01:30 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Also, if we meet something with a ranged AP4 attack, he is in extreme danger, due to his low speed and nonexistent agility.
19-02-2019 06:02:03 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Something with ranged AP5, actually.
19-02-2019 06:02:28 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Are hallucingenics a thing in Hell ER?
19-02-2019 06:02:32 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: AP4 means "you need plate armor to deal with this"
19-02-2019 06:02:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Those are a thing everywhere MJ~
19-02-2019 06:03:31 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Eh?
19-02-2019 06:03:47 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Hmm, so if Amph takes stims can she still move? Since it decreases her stamina?
19-02-2019 06:03:50 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Oh, I guess it is AP must beat armor.
19-02-2019 06:04:01 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Coulda sword it was AP3 beats Armor3
19-02-2019 06:04:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: If you stim up and lose stamina, you collapse under the weight of your LMG
19-02-2019 06:04:41 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: IE she needs a sidearm.
19-02-2019 06:04:50 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Nah, Amph just needs some steroids
19-02-2019 06:05:09 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Apparently pocket pistols are the only weightless gun.
19-02-2019 06:05:11 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: if she gets a sidearm someone else needs to carry it :V
19-02-2019 06:05:43 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Really painkillers would be more than sufficient for her, and give more benefit than amphetamines.
19-02-2019 06:05:56 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: But her naammmeeee~
19-02-2019 06:05:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: both.
19-02-2019 06:06:14 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Amphetamines give +3 focus.  Painkiller gives a focus fullheal, then -2 focus.
19-02-2019 06:06:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: just boost stamina, and then use regular stims.
19-02-2019 06:06:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: the solution is always more drugs.
19-02-2019 06:06:42 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: And since focus is largely only used for guns, which requires half focus, and she has 7 focus max, she'd never need more after a painkiller.
19-02-2019 06:07:22 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Nah, lets just pile more drugs onto her. No way that can go wrong~
19-02-2019 06:08:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you remember how you died, right? :P
19-02-2019 06:08:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: not enough stims?
19-02-2019 06:08:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: someone tranquilized her to death?
19-02-2019 06:08:43 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Really, we'd be best off if Rakiit gave her LMG to Alexander, and then got herself an SMG, like the ones the shopkeeps have.
19-02-2019 06:09:12 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Alexander is a boss in melee, so if someone's within the four-tile min range he can beat them to death.  Past that, he can still aim and autohit just as well as her.
19-02-2019 06:09:59 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: ...Though, wait, he still only has 3 max stam, so heh.  He *can't*, not with his armor.
19-02-2019 06:10:21 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Or, he'd be immobile anyway, though that's not a huge problem for him.
19-02-2019 06:11:41 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Yeah Rakiit probably died from like 15 different chemcials from high potency tranquiliziers and experimental combat drugs interacting in new and exicinting ways. But mostly just because she didn't have enough experimental combat drugs~
19-02-2019 06:12:42 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: "Died from cardiac arrest"
19-02-2019 06:12:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Yup.  As long as you make sure no stat hits zero, there's no problem.
19-02-2019 06:12:52 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: exactlly.
19-02-2019 06:12:56 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: She apparently had enough to survive bullets.
19-02-2019 06:13:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: which would be..
19-02-2019 06:13:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: (In truth I'd expect after a certain quantity of running doses, some kinda overdose penalty or result table would kick in.)
19-02-2019 06:14:59 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Stimulant induced pyschosis?
19-02-2019 06:15:01 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: That doesn't need to be made before the players find drugs, and even once it's made, the players don't need to know the details~
19-02-2019 06:15:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Yeah.  I think you'd be okay with hiding that results table.
19-02-2019 06:16:19 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: ER does the store have drugs?
19-02-2019 06:16:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: probably?
19-02-2019 06:17:13 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Also, Overlords charecter design in a nutshell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGxCMyLm6js
19-02-2019 06:17:15 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: ...I might as well answer, despite the question getting lost way back.  The lethality of 5.56, like all gunshot wounds, is extremely variable and hard to quantify.  But it's certainly nowhere near the lethality depicted in Tactihell.
19-02-2019 06:17:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: say 50% per hit?
19-02-2019 06:17:47 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: It really depends
19-02-2019 06:18:23 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: 50% instant death is right out, as the only way to instantly kill someone is with a brainshot.  Not a headshot, the skull is good at deflecting bullets, and most of the face is quite nonessential to life, a brainshot.  The area between the eyes, and a little above or below that, is instakill.
19-02-2019 06:19:57 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Even a heartshot isn't instant death, you can exert yourself for a good few seconds after.  I once saw a video where a guy shot himself in (or very close to) his heart with a pistol, and he took a good fifteen seconds to fall over, so without exertion it's remarkably slow.
19-02-2019 06:20:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: can't you also instantly kill someone via rifle-round shock effect blood pressure drop?
19-02-2019 06:20:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: IE, they're down immediately and dead very shortly after that.
19-02-2019 06:20:48 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: People can and do fall unconscious instantly from not-instantly-lethal gunshot wounds, but that's a psychological effect.  People have fallen unconscious from being shot at and *missed*.
19-02-2019 06:20:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Heh.
19-02-2019 06:21:11 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I should simulate a chance of that~
19-02-2019 06:21:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: That LMG is already lethal enough.
19-02-2019 06:21:24 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Hydrostatic shock is an extremely difficult to understand thing.  It's debated over whether it exists, and if it does, the effects are very random.
19-02-2019 06:21:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: ahh, ok.
19-02-2019 06:21:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I've only heard about it through fiction.
19-02-2019 06:23:06 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: From *my own research*, not necessarily official opinions, I believe the reported cases of hydrostatic shock causing unconsciousness were due to the aforementioned scaring effect.  However, IIRC it's also been *probably* confirmed that it does cause brain damage, even on survivable gunshot wounds.  Not enough to be relevant in a gunfight, at least compared to all the other effects going on, but certainly relevant to people wh
19-02-2019 06:24:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: who survive?
19-02-2019 06:25:37 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Wound cavity is a related effect, you can see it very well demonstrated by those videos of people shooting ballistics gelatin, where this massive ripple opens a giant space inside the gelatin.  In living creatures, flesh is *very* flexible, and most won't take signifiant damage from that cavity.  Muscle is essentially unharmed from a lethality standpoint, though it may rip tendons from bone if the wave hits right.  Organs whi
19-02-2019 06:26:13 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Ah, yes Dev.  Relevant to soldiers and cops who get shot, but survive and go home.
19-02-2019 06:26:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: getting cut off, syv
19-02-2019 06:26:22 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Uhh.  Damn.  Where?
19-02-2019 06:26:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: both of the big ones
19-02-2019 06:26:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Organs whi
19-02-2019 06:27:25 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Organs which cannot stretch well, like the brain, *can* be destroyed by that effect.
19-02-2019 06:27:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: poor brain, so important, so fragile
19-02-2019 06:28:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: except to tamping irons.
19-02-2019 06:28:58 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Tamping iron was very low velocity relative to bullets.  That's the point of what I just said; it wasn't fast enough to make that pressure wave.
19-02-2019 06:29:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Ahh.
19-02-2019 06:29:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: So you can survive tamping irons through the brain, as long as they are at relatively low speeds.
19-02-2019 06:29:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: The current record is 1.
19-02-2019 06:29:54 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: On the subject of 4-5 causing incapaciting and quickly lethal injuries, that's more in line with gunshot wounds to the torso, neck, or head.  Anything which destroys an artery, vital organs, or is simply so painful and horrifying that the soldier can't fight, will knock them out of the fight and likely kill them quickly.
19-02-2019 06:31:12 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Trained people will aim center of mass, and have a high chance of hitting something vital, so on an accurate shot that's going to be the dominant result.  Especially the more powerful the bullet; 22 is slow and small, so it damages relatively little compared to 5.56 or .45.
19-02-2019 06:32:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: what if the target is a grizzly bear?
19-02-2019 06:32:12 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Finally, no matter where you're shot, it's a deep wound which can get infected, and you're likely dirty, in a very unclean area, and without immediate medical care.  Infections can easy kill you no matter how minor the actual gunshot was.  That's long term though.
19-02-2019 06:33:08 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Uhh.  I wouldn't trust 22 to penetrate its skull, though .45 should, and 9mm probably will?  I don't know how tough a grizzly's skull is compared to an alligator, but .45 penetrates large alligator skull.
19-02-2019 06:33:39 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Out of a pistol, even.  I'm virtually always referring to out-of-a-pistol performance with pistol calibers...
19-02-2019 06:33:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Bears are really tough.
19-02-2019 06:34:06 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: dunno, just heard that bears are really good at surviving bullets.
19-02-2019 06:34:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Yeah.
19-02-2019 06:34:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: They have a lot of fur and a lot of meat on them.  Very hard to get a really vital hit on that.
19-02-2019 06:34:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: them.
19-02-2019 06:34:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: That said, it is far from impossible.
19-02-2019 06:34:50 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: As far as getting organ shots, the problem is that there's a LOT of mass to penetrate, and I doubt it's neatly targetable from the front.  Humans, humans have a few inches of bone and muscle before the heart and lungs, so penetration isn't a big issue.  It's mostly relevant for shots from the side.
19-02-2019 06:35:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: humans, in our infinite wisdom, made weapons that happen to be really good at killing ourselves foremost.
19-02-2019 06:35:55 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Rifle calibers should do fine, assuming you target a vital spot correctly, but I don't have a good idea of how much penetration is needed, so can't say about intermediates like 5.56.
19-02-2019 06:37:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Probably be fine.  Just don't miss.
19-02-2019 06:37:34 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: I really would not trust pistols on anything short of a headshot, because pistols are weak.  Unless, of course, it's a bigass hunting revolver or something.  Still, normal pistols are optimized for anti-human use.
19-02-2019 06:40:40 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Giving bears a natural Armor2 wouldn't be out of place in Tactihell.  Honestly, Armor3 would work, since the people shooting likely wouldn't be aiming terribly precisely, and wouldn't know where the vitals are aside from the head.
19-02-2019 06:41:19 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but then what's a bear in plate armor? :P
19-02-2019 06:41:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Armor5
19-02-2019 06:41:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: so go get one of those.
19-02-2019 06:41:43 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Is there such thing as dex AC?
19-02-2019 06:41:57 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: And 5.56... well, it does do a lot of structural damage at short range since the bullet tends to tear itself and go everywhere, but the effect is still rather shallow, so it's not unreasonable for a bear to mostly get the pain as a mechanical effect.
19-02-2019 06:42:32 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Not in Tactihell, MJ.
19-02-2019 06:42:37 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: aww
19-02-2019 06:43:04 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Really anything with AP5 wouldn't give a shit about platemail, or the bear behind it.
19-02-2019 06:43:30 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: shouldn't techincally a .30 caliber round not give a shit about platemail? ~
19-02-2019 06:43:39 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: That's antitank level stuff, considering our one AP5 is *breech loaded*.
19-02-2019 06:43:51 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Yeah, 30 should go through.
19-02-2019 06:43:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: yeah, pretty much.
19-02-2019 06:44:26 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: But I won't complain, plus a bear's plate armor would arguably be a lot thicker, and much more curved from the front.
19-02-2019 06:44:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: maybe bears are terrifying.
19-02-2019 06:45:07 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: ER do you want to play apex?
19-02-2019 06:45:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: there's supposed to be PC bears in Ocean
19-02-2019 06:45:36 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Not for now, MJ. Not feeling good enough to game this moment.
19-02-2019 06:45:45 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: syv? dev?
19-02-2019 06:45:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I really should be going to sleep.
19-02-2019 06:45:52 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: It's free~
19-02-2019 06:46:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I'm mostly reading.
19-02-2019 06:46:05 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: ...Hmm, the breach-loaded gun is actually AP7, not AP5.  So, uh, yeah, accurate statting on that 20mm you got there.
19-02-2019 06:46:21 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: I'll try any game once, but I don't have it downloaded.
19-02-2019 06:46:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh yeah it's AP7 lol
19-02-2019 06:46:34 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Alright.
19-02-2019 06:46:40 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: You want to play Dark Souls?  Or "Spider-man"?
19-02-2019 06:46:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: spider man with extra swords
19-02-2019 06:47:03 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Or Warframe?  I think ER was the one with Warframe though.
19-02-2019 06:47:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: and wistfully speculating about how many years it'll take to do horrifying things to Alida, either through pure thought or induced madness.
19-02-2019 06:47:15 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: uhhhh, I don't have darksouls DL'd. And spiderman sounds way advanced beyond my current mental state
19-02-2019 06:47:18 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Real life years at that.
19-02-2019 06:47:21 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I never ended up playing warframe >_>
19-02-2019 06:47:34 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Why were you joking about Clem then?
19-02-2019 06:47:53 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: I thought he wasn't found until like Sedna, which is midgame.
19-02-2019 06:47:58 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: One of my fraternity brothers does like testing work for warframe actually.
19-02-2019 06:48:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'm just naturally drawn to memes, even if I'm not familiar with them.
19-02-2019 06:48:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: It's a feature that I gain from being a level 7 memelord
19-02-2019 06:48:52 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: I was gonna make a joke about it not showing, but no, it actually does in general.  They haven't had a super buggy release for a looong time.
19-02-2019 06:49:15 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: How about Surviv.io then, MJ?
19-02-2019 06:49:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: in game years, too.
19-02-2019 06:49:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Unless it goes to like six months between witches.
19-02-2019 06:49:40 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Twoooo Grakata!
19-02-2019 06:49:45 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I'll play a round. Sure
19-02-2019 06:49:59 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Twin Grakatas are fucking amazing, too.  Absurd considering how easy they are to get.
19-02-2019 06:50:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ah, do you want me to provide sleepy covering fire?
19-02-2019 06:50:23 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Sure. Another gun can't hurt.
19-02-2019 06:50:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: ...
19-02-2019 06:50:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: do you want me there?
19-02-2019 06:50:35 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Totes
19-02-2019 06:50:36 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Apex is beond my current mental capacity, but surviv is probably fine
19-02-2019 06:50:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I haven't played it for a while.
19-02-2019 06:50:39 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Maximally modded, their fire rate was somewhere above 300 shots... per *second*.
19-02-2019 06:50:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: aight, give me a link.
19-02-2019 06:50:48 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Let's get this fucking bread gents.
19-02-2019 06:51:01 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: ...Bread?
19-02-2019 06:51:04 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: meme
19-02-2019 06:52:17 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I have the meme that introduced it to me on my phone, but I don't know of a good way to upload it onto this chat
19-02-2019 06:52:28 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: surviv.io/#8xAP
19-02-2019 06:53:02 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I'm on
19-02-2019 06:53:04 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Imgur is the best, but if you're a lazy scrublord you could send it to me over Discord, then copy the link.
19-02-2019 06:53:09 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Who is Player?
19-02-2019 06:53:18 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: And are we waiting ER or Devastator?
19-02-2019 06:53:19 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I am a very lazy scrublord
19-02-2019 06:53:25 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: you konw thins
19-02-2019 06:53:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I'm there.
19-02-2019 06:53:37 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: nameless player has to be dev
19-02-2019 06:54:08 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: The entire area is empty of visuals and objects for me.
19-02-2019 06:54:40 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: dead.
19-02-2019 06:54:55 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: dead
19-02-2019 06:55:00 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I just suck
19-02-2019 06:55:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: goddamn it, it just lagged to hell thre.
19-02-2019 06:55:41 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: My roommate is playing leauge and we have a stream on so I might lag massivelly
19-02-2019 06:55:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: ..yeah.
19-02-2019 06:55:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: which was annoying because I was going to punch shotgun guy to death.
19-02-2019 06:56:07 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: shotgun guy was rought
19-02-2019 06:56:38 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Still bkind.
19-02-2019 06:58:29 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: dead
19-02-2019 07:00:43 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: connection issues syv?
19-02-2019 07:00:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: damn.
19-02-2019 07:00:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: almost got him.
19-02-2019 07:00:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: yeah, sometimes the game does that.
19-02-2019 07:00:58 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: (syv) The entire area is empty of visuals and objects for me.
19-02-2019 07:01:05 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Also is this the first game we've played where we are all playing as a squad?
19-02-2019 07:01:11 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nope
19-02-2019 07:01:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: nope.
19-02-2019 07:01:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: but.. damn.
19-02-2019 07:01:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I did 619 damage, you guys did.. 58
19-02-2019 07:01:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: turn off autofill.
19-02-2019 07:03:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: sometimes I get that when the assets don't load properly.
19-02-2019 07:03:46 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Game seems to work now.
19-02-2019 07:03:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: good
19-02-2019 07:04:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: So you guys are duoing it?
19-02-2019 07:05:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: good luck MJ.
19-02-2019 07:05:11 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: well I'm dead
19-02-2019 07:06:57 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: good luck gusy
19-02-2019 07:08:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: just bad play on me there.
19-02-2019 07:09:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: try playing good lol
19-02-2019 07:09:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Yeah.
19-02-2019 07:09:17 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Just git gud newb
19-02-2019 07:10:36 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Apperentlly ovens explode
19-02-2019 07:10:41 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yes
19-02-2019 07:12:14 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: This really is a 2D pubg
19-02-2019 07:12:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: damn, wrong weapon change.
19-02-2019 07:12:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: yeah.
19-02-2019 07:12:24 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Unplayable lag, I
19-02-2019 07:12:28 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: 'm done.
19-02-2019 07:12:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: ok.
19-02-2019 07:12:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: turn off autofill
19-02-2019 07:12:46 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Arlight, I think I might be done as well.
19-02-2019 07:12:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: ok.
19-02-2019 07:12:51 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: What is autofill and how do I turn it off?
19-02-2019 07:12:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: prolly it then.
19-02-2019 07:12:53 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: PLaying without a mouse
19-02-2019 07:13:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: you click on 'no fill' and it doesn't give you extra random people on your squad, if you aren't full.
19-02-2019 07:13:15 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Why would you suggest playing a shooter when you don't have a mouse?
19-02-2019 07:13:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: becuase he's just that good.
19-02-2019 07:13:23 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Oh, that's what you mean.
19-02-2019 07:13:54 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Because I don't make good decisions.~
19-02-2019 07:14:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Life is good.
19-02-2019 07:14:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: I am annoyed I couldn't win that out, though..
19-02-2019 07:14:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: probably only would have needed one or two more kills.
19-02-2019 07:15:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: have to do that when you have a mouse.
19-02-2019 07:16:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: what other terrible games should we play?
19-02-2019 07:16:19 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GgMt2LiJF4o
19-02-2019 07:16:24 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Spiderman?
19-02-2019 07:16:39 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: I'd suggest Hunt, but it's likely not updated and lag would be a problem.
19-02-2019 07:16:57 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Also, Warframe and DaS are always options with me.
19-02-2019 07:17:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: DaS randomizer mod?  Sadly, with bad net means no stream.
19-02-2019 07:17:40 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Correct.
19-02-2019 07:18:00 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: If you want I could set that up to play this weekend.  Sat or Sun after midnight.
19-02-2019 07:18:44 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Alternatively, Egan could stream, and summon me, or be summoned.
19-02-2019 07:18:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'm actually not sure why I asked that question, seeing as I don't want to game right now and I'm feeling tired and should sleep
19-02-2019 07:19:19 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and if I WERE feeling good to play something right now, I'd offer to show off fear and hunger!
19-02-2019 07:19:21 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Go to bed ER or play Apex with me
19-02-2019 07:19:25 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: It's only 0200, man.
19-02-2019 07:19:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: It's not even midnight!  ;-p
19-02-2019 07:19:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the numbers are irrelevant, my head feels bad and I have no focus
19-02-2019 07:19:47 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: It's only 1!
19-02-2019 07:21:57 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Hmm.  If you want something mindless to play, MJ, we could do Running with Rifles.
19-02-2019 07:22:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: ..without a mouse?
19-02-2019 07:22:14 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Though I'm going to guess you actually have nothing except Apex installed;
19-02-2019 07:22:18 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Oh yeah!
19-02-2019 07:22:25 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Uhm.  Grief Syndrome?
19-02-2019 07:22:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: pick something gamepaddy? :P
19-02-2019 07:22:45 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: ...Dark Souls...?
19-02-2019 07:22:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: aw, grief syndrome. I love that game!
19-02-2019 07:23:07 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Yeah, I should really get around to bugfixing the challenge mod...
19-02-2019 07:23:31 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: It's just so terribly written.
19-02-2019 07:23:42 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: And I'm so lazy.
19-02-2019 07:24:21 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: fun to give it another shot in multiplayer, though I'd have to work out how to fort my porwards or whatever again so that it can actually work
19-02-2019 07:25:04 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Oh.  Something notable there.  There's no less than two overhaul mods which are combined for that challenge mod.  The unpacker tool which lets you see the raw code does in fact preserve comments.  BOTH the overhaul mod writers must have had to heavily experiment with the code to figure out what they needed to change.
19-02-2019 07:25:07 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I ended up being the host last time, but I've got a different router to work with now
19-02-2019 07:25:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: ..Yow.
19-02-2019 07:26:11 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: The ONLY comments in the entire damn thing are from the first overhaul guy, and they mostly only say what a few character-specific variables he added do.  When that's already pretty clear from their names, as he's the only coder to use meaningful variable names.
19-02-2019 07:26:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: welp
19-02-2019 07:27:12 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: time to go in, sort the chaos, and then not leave any comments!
19-02-2019 07:27:20 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: To be fair, the original Japanese writers can be excused from their insane variable names, since they clearly didn't really know English.  Likewise, their comments would undoubtably ne useless to me even if they did exist.  But I know for a fact that both of the overhaul people spoke English well.
19-02-2019 07:27:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: the challenge mod, figuring out how it works!
19-02-2019 07:28:22 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Most of modding the damn game is figuring out what does what, and where it is.  Usually the actual code changes are very simple and clear, because the program, structurally, isn't too terrible.
19-02-2019 07:28:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'd assume that part would be harder :P
19-02-2019 07:28:59 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I'm actually playing on my roommates xbox syv
19-02-2019 07:29:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: xbone.
19-02-2019 07:29:10 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: yes
19-02-2019 07:29:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh yeah, game consoles exist?
19-02-2019 07:29:28 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I have no answer for why he's using the inferior console of this generation but he is
19-02-2019 07:29:29 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: We wouldn't be able to play with you then, MJ.  PC does not cross with Xbox, or Playstation.
19-02-2019 07:29:41 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Damn, I thought it.
19-02-2019 07:30:28 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: IIRC there was one single game that allowed full cross-console play.  One of the Red Orchestras, I thiiink.  Nobody liked it.
19-02-2019 07:30:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: there have been a few attempts at that
19-02-2019 07:30:52 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I think Apex is planning on it
19-02-2019 07:31:22 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: They'll probably hit a large backlash.
19-02-2019 07:31:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: though it's often just PC and one of the consoles, I guess
19-02-2019 07:31:44 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Console kiddies hate playing with PC, because mouse is so much better for shooters.
19-02-2019 07:32:00 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Yeah, plus that.  Microsoft and Sony hate eat other.
19-02-2019 07:32:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: just make gamepad lobbies seperate from mouse and keyboard lobbies.
19-02-2019 07:32:36 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Result: Console and PC are segregated.
19-02-2019 07:32:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'm pretty sure that you can plug a mouse into a console.
19-02-2019 07:33:01 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: ...Really?
19-02-2019 07:33:10 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: I have never heard of that.
19-02-2019 07:33:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: uuuuuuuuuh
19-02-2019 07:34:12 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: dunno, not really into consoles, but I think that's possible in this generation, not that many games would support it, I guess.
19-02-2019 07:34:41 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I think it is possible and I would agree that mouse is way better for shooters. But eh.
19-02-2019 07:35:09 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Convience is a powerful motivator :P
19-02-2019 07:35:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...I'm pretty sure that you could plug a keyboard into the dreamcast through some wizardry. There's no reason for it to be impossible.
19-02-2019 07:35:47 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: come to the PC side MJ, we have *very* entertaining bugs!
19-02-2019 07:36:15 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I've come to the PC side everytime I go home. But college is a console place~
19-02-2019 07:36:32 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also I'm going to put my money where my mouth is now and close my eyes so that maybe I'll feel better.
19-02-2019 07:36:35 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: Yes there is.  If you can't use KB+M, you have to buy console-specific peripherals, which you're less likely to already have.
19-02-2019 07:36:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: okay, ER.
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19-02-2019 07:36:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: good night.
19-02-2019 07:37:28 < syv!syvarris@shubjh-325-839-74-104.mycingular.net: I also have an Xbox 360 controller-attachable keyboard, which is about the size of a very old flip phone, but that's not really usable for games.  Besides maybe Dark Souls.
19-02-2019 07:42:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: hmm
19-02-2019 07:45:19 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Man I am really bad at Apex.
19-02-2019 07:45:54 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: I shall blame the controller as my ansectors did :P
19-02-2019 07:48:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Indeed.
19-02-2019 07:49:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: That's why the Donner Party failed to make it into California, remember?
19-02-2019 07:51:34 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Heh
19-02-2019 07:52:03 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: True, but I'm not sure cannabilism is the answer to it. I mean sure it's an answer, but it's not always the best answer :P
19-02-2019 07:53:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Drugs?
19-02-2019 07:54:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: aren't drugs the solution?
19-02-2019 08:06:14 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Hmm, I suppose most drugs are made in solution so yes :P
19-02-2019 08:08:55 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Dev, random question but what's the legal drinking age in Canada?
19-02-2019 08:10:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: Varies depending on province.
19-02-2019 08:10:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:immk:pysj:hwhp:xlst:swvp: 19 here.
19-02-2019 08:10:40 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Ah.
19-02-2019 08:11:02 < MJ!midjag@645-057-670-552.dhcp.chtrptr.net: Intresing. Well anyways, good night
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