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09-02-2019 03:34:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Eh.
09-02-2019 03:34:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: There aren't any ideal choices?
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09-02-2019 06:16:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ..okay.
09-02-2019 07:13:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: "The HoI 4 Netcode was written by a thousand monkeys on a thousand typewriters."
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09-02-2019 12:14:55 -!- Topic for #einsteinianroulette: Intergalactic Day of Mourning for 2016 (2016-2016)
09-02-2019 12:14:55 -!- Topic set by Remalle!Variety@i2246816zi629tu21.vc.shawcable.net [Tuesday 03 January 2017, 06:26:56]
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09-02-2019 14:53:18 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@73-679-09-73.lsv2.qwest.net: HoI?
09-02-2019 14:53:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: HOi
09-02-2019 14:55:07 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@73-679-09-73.lsv2.qwest.net: Getting Wind waker flashbacks here
09-02-2019 14:55:15 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@73-679-09-73.lsv2.qwest.net: Which ain't bad
09-02-2019 14:55:49 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@73-679-09-73.lsv2.qwest.net: Man, do you remember when Wind waker came out originally and there was a massive backlash against it because of how it looked?
09-02-2019 14:55:54 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@73-679-09-73.lsv2.qwest.net: that was weird
09-02-2019 14:56:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nope I don't remember I'm young as fuck
09-02-2019 14:57:59 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@73-679-09-73.lsv2.qwest.net: Unfortunate
09-02-2019 16:39:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: heya.
09-02-2019 16:39:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Hearts of Iron.
09-02-2019 16:39:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I played WW a bunch.  I remember there being a looks backlash, but I liked it.
09-02-2019 16:56:19 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: liked windwaker right up until it asked me to fish up triforce fragments all over the place by grinding money and buying maps from tingle
09-02-2019 16:56:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: or something
09-02-2019 16:56:47 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: basically the end of the game suddenly becomes very boring
09-02-2019 16:59:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Heh.
09-02-2019 16:59:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah, it is a bit aimless.
09-02-2019 17:47:29 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@73-679-09-73.lsv2.qwest.net: the remaster version actually fixes that
09-02-2019 17:47:41 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@73-679-09-73.lsv2.qwest.net: Or at least tones it WAAAAAY down
09-02-2019 17:47:48 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@73-679-09-73.lsv2.qwest.net: You still do it but like...3 times
09-02-2019 17:47:53 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@73-679-09-73.lsv2.qwest.net: instead of like 15
09-02-2019 17:48:00 < Piecewise_!Piecewise@73-679-09-73.lsv2.qwest.net: or however much it was
09-02-2019 17:56:42 < * Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net grumbles.
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09-02-2019 20:12:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Heya RC.
09-02-2019 20:13:06 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Good evening gentlemen and gentiles.
09-02-2019 20:13:12 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: How are we doing?
09-02-2019 20:13:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Pretty good.
09-02-2019 20:13:39 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Heya Dev.
09-02-2019 20:13:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: gotta head out soon, need to get some chores done in town.
09-02-2019 20:13:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: It's been cold.
09-02-2019 20:13:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: And how are you?
09-02-2019 20:14:16 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Decent, but tired. Gonna have to work tomorrow as well, though at least I did get some stuff done today.
09-02-2019 20:14:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ok.
09-02-2019 20:14:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Got a new job.
09-02-2019 20:14:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: so spent a month not working, which is about normal.
09-02-2019 20:14:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: How are you finding birdgame?
09-02-2019 20:15:28 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Also still have to ruin some foodstuffs and create culinary Armageddon tonight, also known as 'my cooking'.
09-02-2019 20:15:36 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Yeah, you mentioned it before.
09-02-2019 20:15:47 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Haven't read the last turn yet actually.
09-02-2019 20:16:08 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Though I did see your pm just now. It's quite something, innit?
09-02-2019 20:16:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah.
09-02-2019 20:17:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: It really did just seem like you offered less with every round of negotiation.  You jumped at chances to offer me something other than what I wanted, and then you reduce the amount of that.
09-02-2019 20:17:53 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: All I can say is that I wasn't trying to scam you, but I did try to get a good price, true.
09-02-2019 20:17:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Plus some of your points just seemed invalid.  It wasn't no risk, because I could have lost my character's life or limbs.
09-02-2019 20:18:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: It also isn't the case that words are permanent bonuses while mana was not, because I can use mana to get permanent bonuses.
09-02-2019 20:18:24 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: It really did seem like you wanted those words quite a bit.
09-02-2019 20:18:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I wanted a look at them, and I think the first one would have been worth about fifty to seventy-five gold.
09-02-2019 20:19:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: And neither of us knew they'd be reusable.
09-02-2019 20:19:07 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: I didn't say no risk, but really, as long as you didn't blow anyone's head clean off, we were covering the costs for any failures.
09-02-2019 20:20:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: You said no risk repeatedly.
09-02-2019 20:20:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Like, four, five, six times.
09-02-2019 20:21:25 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Did I? Where was that, could you quote it for me?
09-02-2019 20:22:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: "I did point out the discrepancy between the amount of effort/risk you were willing to go to for a certain profit versus the amount of payment you offered for our efforts and risks in return."
09-02-2019 20:22:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: 'certain profit', yes.
09-02-2019 20:24:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: "To wit, for a single turn of effort and no risk of losing mana from the deal Saeko would get two magic words and like 9 mana in pure profit."
09-02-2019 20:24:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Mmm, hmm.. oh, sure, no risk of losing mana.  That's what counts.  I mean, you might blow your arm off and have to replace it with a gorilla arm, if you don't die, but that risk doesn't matter.
09-02-2019 20:25:01 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: No risk of losing mana indeed, since all the costs were covered in case of a failure. And yes, a certain profit.
09-02-2019 20:25:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Unless she dies.
09-02-2019 20:25:31 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Well how exactly would you want us to insure against that?
09-02-2019 20:25:49 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Apart from explicitly promising necromancy I suppose?
09-02-2019 20:26:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I want it acknowledged by you guys paying more for optional improvements than someone else does for life-saving spells.
09-02-2019 20:26:44 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Hey, if those word were truly as useless as you now say they are, we could buy them back.
09-02-2019 20:27:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: That's an idea.  What's your offer for them?
09-02-2019 20:28:40 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Also, in that case, would you acknowledge that the current explicit reward for the bughunt is very low for the effort and risk, and that without any concrete agreement on a discount it's basically working for free?
09-02-2019 20:29:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Then don't do it.
09-02-2019 20:29:57 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Hmm, not sure. You said you thought they were worth 2 mana a piece iirc, correct?
09-02-2019 20:30:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: You also said you thought they were much more valuable.
09-02-2019 20:30:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: If you really believed that, and weren't just trying to put the screws to me, you should prove it.
09-02-2019 20:31:08 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: I don't really understand why me saying "You didn't have to take the offer if it wasn't to your liking" is unfair, while you saying "Then don't do it." isn't.
09-02-2019 20:31:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: If I had thousands of gold, I would have offered more.
09-02-2019 20:32:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Look, we can discuss it when the rescue mission is over.
09-02-2019 20:32:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: You've gotten some spells at dirt cheap prices, right up front.
09-02-2019 20:32:33 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: But again, how much money you have or haven't is completely irrelevant since you have another easy method to improve the value of the deal for us. Even if both of us were broke, that's still be true.
09-02-2019 20:32:41 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: alway pay your mercenaries
09-02-2019 20:32:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I don't have an easy method to improve the deal.
09-02-2019 20:32:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I have.. 9 mana and under a hundred gold.
09-02-2019 20:32:57 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Sure, if you want to wait until after the mission then that's fine by me.
09-02-2019 20:33:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: You have what, seventy and 2000 gold?
09-02-2019 20:33:03 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Oh hey ER!
09-02-2019 20:33:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: what?
09-02-2019 20:33:19 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Just a hello.
09-02-2019 20:33:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hello
09-02-2019 20:33:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: but yeah, we can talk it after you save people.  That's what the mission is, anyway.
09-02-2019 20:33:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: it's not a bug hunt.  It's a reward for rescuing people.
09-02-2019 20:34:10 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Again, all you would need to do is lower your asking price, and that is equivalent to us paying more for the spell and then you increasing the bug quest reward, it's just skipping a step.
09-02-2019 20:34:24 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Yeah, sure, but bughunt is snappier to say, innit? :p
09-02-2019 20:34:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: So.. if I ask for less pay, you pay more?
09-02-2019 20:35:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: That doesn't make sense.
09-02-2019 20:35:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: a lower price means you pay less.
09-02-2019 20:35:22 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Hmm, if it came down to it, what would Saeko prefer: us rescuing the people currently kidnapped (assuming that is even still possible of course) or us making sure no future abduction occur?
09-02-2019 20:35:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Truth?  Saeko doesn't like killing things.  If you rescue the people, it might open the possibility of negotiation or a resolution that doesn't involve brutal murder.
09-02-2019 20:36:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: That's why the bounty was for finding the enemy base and for rescuing people.
09-02-2019 20:36:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'm going to assume she doesn't approve of you burning everything and calling it mission complete
09-02-2019 20:36:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: And you still haven't checked to see if anyone else put up money there.
09-02-2019 20:37:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Eh, I think she'd be okay if it's a pile of dead bugs and a dead bug leader or whatever.  But rescuing kidnapped people was goal one.
09-02-2019 20:37:48 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Was gonna do that once we return from the mission, partly because pan would really like to get to the fun part soon. Can't blame him really.
09-02-2019 20:38:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: kk, go for it.
09-02-2019 20:38:39 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Obviously we aren't gonna go full murderhobo, but if we can get to their lair and a horde of angry bugs assaults us we're not gonna invite them to tea :v
09-02-2019 20:38:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: We'll talk when you come back.
09-02-2019 20:40:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: PW is also on.  Maybe he'll just tell you if any other bounty money showed up.
09-02-2019 20:40:57 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Fair enough, I just hope that you won't decide to increase the price if we do well on the mission or Pan gets some mana from the fighting. I don't particularly like doing a dangerous job before being sure it'll be worth it, but fine.
09-02-2019 20:42:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I gave you a starting offer already.  I won't ask for more than that starting offer.
09-02-2019 20:42:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I think you offered what, a third of that?
09-02-2019 20:42:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Is that the point you want me to start at?
09-02-2019 20:43:46 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Sure, but that's just too much for one d6 and one d12 spell, just pumping the 40 mana into the stat would be cheaper at that point. Since we don't know how much mana the spells&failures could cost, the price could be anything from 42 mana to 70 or more.
09-02-2019 20:44:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: ..so your starting point is too much for two stat increases?
09-02-2019 20:44:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Seriously?
09-02-2019 20:44:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: you offered 7.5 mana per spell.
09-02-2019 20:44:58 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Latest offer was a certain 20 mana profit, and that's assuming we successfully do the mission.
09-02-2019 20:45:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: so.. 10 mana a spell.
09-02-2019 20:45:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: You know what?  Fine.  Do the mission, save the people, and you get it.
09-02-2019 20:45:30 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: And the bugquest gets done. At least acknowledge that.
09-02-2019 20:45:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I get 20 in return.
09-02-2019 20:45:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: And please acknowledge that I'm risking death too.
09-02-2019 20:46:33 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: What in case there are no more people to save? Like they get sacrificed or something after getting abducted?
09-02-2019 20:46:48 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Sure, the spells are not without risk to you, I acknowledge that.
09-02-2019 20:47:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: 16/120, straight up, per d12 attempt, if I'm doing the math.
09-02-2019 20:47:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Then tell me the truth about it, RC.
09-02-2019 20:47:39 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: We do our best to mitigate the risk by paying for spells to fix the damage, but we can't really do much to prevent a string of 1's ruining everybody's day.
09-02-2019 20:48:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Well, you could, but that's would be too expensive for you.
09-02-2019 20:48:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: After all, not your limb at risk.
09-02-2019 20:48:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: It's PW, even a string of ones won't kill you.
09-02-2019 20:48:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I think it could in this case.
09-02-2019 20:48:42 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: How? I mean, to stay with your example, if her arms comes off or something, what then?
09-02-2019 20:48:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Has a player character even ever died in Cabal?
09-02-2019 20:48:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Critfail with this much power would be bad, and you can bleed out from that.
09-02-2019 20:49:00 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Don't think so ER.
09-02-2019 20:49:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah, but this is my character, and PW knows I can take dying.
09-02-2019 20:49:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Oz's almost died, as did Leng, who succeeded against a d30 to not die.
09-02-2019 20:49:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Arm off, go unconscious, and die from there.
09-02-2019 20:49:57 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Yeah, but we have doc kits ourselves as well, so as long as you don't OHKO yourself I think instadeath is fairly unlikely.
09-02-2019 20:50:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Quite possible, but yes, fairly unlikely.
09-02-2019 20:50:28 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: PW is fairly benevolent in Cabal though, compared to, say, MOOK.
09-02-2019 20:50:41 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: *grumble poor Jion grumble*
09-02-2019 20:51:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah.
09-02-2019 20:51:34 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Also, I don't think you answered this: "What in case there are no more people to save? Like they get sacrificed or something after getting abducted?"
09-02-2019 20:51:54 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: To know what we should expect if that's the case.
09-02-2019 20:51:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Tell me the truth and make a honest effort.
09-02-2019 20:52:05 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Ok, fair.
09-02-2019 20:52:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Or recover bodies.
09-02-2019 20:52:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I mean, if you tell me where it is, I should be able to check myself if anyone remains there via Ape spells and a flying mount.
09-02-2019 20:53:09 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: We'll see what we can do. Hopefully we can press the attack after the ambush though, otherwise they might get spooked knowing that people are hunting them and relocate or something.
09-02-2019 20:53:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Well.. that's kinda your problem.
09-02-2019 20:53:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: If you get ambushed here.
09-02-2019 20:53:44 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Idea is to try and take a capture a bug so that even if we can't follow them through the mist we'll still have a lead.
09-02-2019 20:53:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: They don't hit every caravan.
09-02-2019 20:54:08 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Might also try viscera-tagging one, gotta check with pw if that idea would work.
09-02-2019 20:54:25 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: True, let's hope they do so we don't pay these mercs for nothing.
09-02-2019 20:54:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: eh, they're working for what, three gold?
09-02-2019 20:54:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: You can always just ride out and do patrols.  Or the hideout might show up on your maps.
09-02-2019 20:55:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: and I think PW is around, so feel free to ask him.
09-02-2019 20:55:26 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: We tried the maps, no luck there.
09-02-2019 20:55:54 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: We could patrol, but their lair could be anywhere in the area and is probably underground, from what we can discern right now.
09-02-2019 20:57:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Should make a bug-compass.
09-02-2019 20:57:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: have it point you the way.
09-02-2019 20:57:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: or tag a bug with the triforce pieces it does search for already.
09-02-2019 20:57:44 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Yeah, considered it, Pan has the right word but the wrong stats for it.
09-02-2019 20:58:06 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Still, we got some options for plan D and beyond if A through C all fail.
09-02-2019 20:58:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Well, you could have asked me to temp buff him while you made some mission relevant gear..
09-02-2019 20:58:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: But that wouldn't have been raw power, so I don't think you were interested in that.
09-02-2019 20:59:10 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: We can still consider that if A to C fail, yeah.
09-02-2019 20:59:24 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Weren't mental stats fairly difficult though, iirc?
09-02-2019 21:00:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah, but a temp buff of d6 would raise it from d4-d6.
09-02-2019 21:00:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: it's more difficult than physical stats, but doesn't seem to be vastly harder.
09-02-2019 21:01:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: And also making a compass hunt down bugs instead of magnetic fields might just be an easy spell.
09-02-2019 21:01:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Doesn't Pan have End?
09-02-2019 21:01:16 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Something to keep in mind then if we can't get to them.
09-02-2019 21:01:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: It's end to make magic items.
09-02-2019 21:02:07 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Yeah, though if they're underground it could still be a hassle, unless we start digging them out.
09-02-2019 21:02:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: PW suggested me using View on a spyglass to get around my weak Know and let me see the underground chamber.
09-02-2019 21:02:25 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Was it end for magic items? Don't recall right now.
09-02-2019 21:02:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah.  It's end for magic items.
09-02-2019 21:02:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: was end for my armour.
09-02-2019 21:02:46 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Gonna have to remember that.
09-02-2019 21:03:23 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: By the way dev, pw just dropped the list of MOOK items he's working on in the discord.
09-02-2019 21:03:34 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Want the link?
09-02-2019 21:04:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Sure.  It's hosted on discord, though, right?
09-02-2019 21:04:14 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Et0NA5i_jXldn8ySqCQXJNo8UCm2ewuvh528yN-_RNg/edit
09-02-2019 21:04:18 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Just a google docs.
09-02-2019 21:04:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: phew.
09-02-2019 21:04:26 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Heh.
09-02-2019 21:04:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: well, there's a chainsword.
09-02-2019 21:04:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: (Discord makes you log in to see most of their stuff.)
09-02-2019 21:05:08 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Yeah.
09-02-2019 21:05:12 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: sure is a lot of Occult using stuff, huh?
09-02-2019 21:05:37 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: is my character build somehow going to turn out to be viable? Weird.
09-02-2019 21:05:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah, but Occult is a stat.
09-02-2019 21:05:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no, it's a skill
09-02-2019 21:06:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Definately going to buy an injection gun.
09-02-2019 21:06:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I can buy explosives to deal with non-living stuff.
09-02-2019 21:06:22 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: ER with a viable character?
09-02-2019 21:06:28 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Pigs must be flying.
09-02-2019 21:06:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Heh.
09-02-2019 21:07:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the minmaxer who isn't a munchkin might tend to die pretty often
09-02-2019 21:07:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Oh, PW, can you add just plain detpacks to the explosive list?  I might want to put explosives on certain kinds of unstable equipment as a way to force it to shut down if it starts going off uncontrolled.
09-02-2019 21:08:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I suppose 'placed charges' are those.
09-02-2019 21:08:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: might want to ping him
09-02-2019 21:09:06 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: I should probably go cook the crime against humanity that will provide sustenance for me for a day or two.
09-02-2019 21:09:41 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Might be back later tonight.
09-02-2019 21:09:46 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@966.97-073-64.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Later fools!
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09-02-2019 21:12:13 < Piecewise__!Piecewise@73-679-09-73.lsv2.qwest.net: Placed charges are basically demo charges
09-02-2019 21:15:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Ahh.
09-02-2019 21:15:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: I wanted something a little bit smaller.
09-02-2019 21:15:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: 'Break the pipe' or 'blow up the power line' sized.
09-02-2019 21:19:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: It'd probably take a roll to find the right place..
09-02-2019 21:19:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Mec skill or whatever.  I hope someone can help me with that.
09-02-2019 21:23:51 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I recommended thermite cutting charges, which could be more precide
09-02-2019 21:24:00 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: precise
09-02-2019 21:24:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Yeah.
09-02-2019 21:24:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@qgzi-0q4jd4zi6cuj54sc986sbk6mo.ipv6.telus.net: Demo charges aren't precise.