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27-12-2018 01:01:17 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@261.sub-719-318-732.myvzw.com: Happy Boxing Day? I think this is Boxing Day.
27-12-2018 01:03:28 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@261.sub-719-318-732.myvzw.com: Well Merry belated Christmas as well.
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27-12-2018 01:43:43 < syv!syvarris@ackhqa-251-717-774-779.mycingular.net: .
27-12-2018 01:43:54 < syv!syvarris@ackhqa-251-717-774-779.mycingular.net: ...wait, still no ER.
27-12-2018 01:44:23 < syv!syvarris@ackhqa-251-717-774-779.mycingular.net: Man, it's almost like everyone is distracted by a major holiday or something.
27-12-2018 02:03:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: heya syv.
27-12-2018 02:03:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: And yeah, boxing day.
27-12-2018 02:08:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Got to use the word 'azimuth' in orders today.
27-12-2018 02:09:11 < syv!syvarris@ackhqa-251-717-774-779.mycingular.net: heya dev.
27-12-2018 02:09:17 < syv!syvarris@ackhqa-251-717-774-779.mycingular.net: Neat.  What game?
27-12-2018 02:10:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Cult.
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27-12-2018 02:15:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: heya sy.
27-12-2018 02:16:00 < sy!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: heya dev.
27-12-2018 02:16:04 -!- sy is now known as syv
27-12-2018 02:16:17 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: My internet is sad.
27-12-2018 02:16:18 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Sad!
27-12-2018 02:16:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: sad indeed.
27-12-2018 02:16:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Cult.
27-12-2018 02:17:41 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I keep meaning to catch up on Cult, but I should prolly give up on it.  It's clearly not interesting to me.
27-12-2018 02:17:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.  It's not resonating with me, either.
27-12-2018 02:18:10 < * Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net wishes PW ran Barbarians!
27-12-2018 02:19:52 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: That... might be fun.  I'unno.
27-12-2018 02:20:06 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: With Piecewise it's always a "might be fun", really.
27-12-2018 02:22:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.
27-12-2018 02:22:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: aww, missed MJ.
27-12-2018 02:26:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Wands race 2.  Well, going to skip that.
27-12-2018 02:27:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: good luck for Evicted.  I thought the first one burned him out.
27-12-2018 02:28:57 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Ugh.
27-12-2018 02:29:14 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Wands Race just seems like an even worse evolution of Arms Race.
27-12-2018 02:29:29 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Did they even have any kind of structured magic system, or could they just make whatever?
27-12-2018 02:29:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Whatever.
27-12-2018 02:30:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Although you got a -2 for something you haven't done before.
27-12-2018 02:34:38 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Maybe it's my experience with tinker making me biased, but I've never understood why people like Arms Race and its derivatives.
27-12-2018 02:35:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Didn't you like Tiniker?
27-12-2018 02:35:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's Tinker with more die rolls.
27-12-2018 02:35:41 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: It seems to largely revolve around just straight up asking for things, and then the result's success being purely random, based on a die roll.
27-12-2018 02:35:55 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Worse, it's political AND competitive.
27-12-2018 02:36:08 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Tinker is entirely different.
27-12-2018 02:37:00 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: In Tinker, you generally either had existing mechanical designs with flaws you could fix or circumvent, or anomalous materials with static effects, which you had to try and understand and figure out uses for.
27-12-2018 02:37:26 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: While we did get some "Hey can we get a thing?" stuff later, with the science teams, I never cared for that.
27-12-2018 02:37:37 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: That was Radio's thing, and was basically powergaming.
27-12-2018 02:39:13 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: And yes, it was somewhat luck based, since it depended on GM interpretation, that was controlled by persuasion--not dice.
27-12-2018 02:39:22 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: *but that was
27-12-2018 02:39:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Heh, not that much different, except the politics.
27-12-2018 02:39:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I can see not wanting to deal with the politics.
27-12-2018 02:39:48 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I LIKE politics.
27-12-2018 02:39:56 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: It makes the game worse, but not for me.
27-12-2018 02:40:36 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: My problem with Arms Race is the whole thing of "Improve this flaw!" being a valid action, with at most a stupid excuse being necessary, and the results of said action being determined by die.
27-12-2018 02:40:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Heh.
27-12-2018 02:41:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: as opposed to Tinker, where you could make up stuff and get it done based on stupid excuses.  ;-p
27-12-2018 02:41:55 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: There's no creativity or thought needed.  Perhaps some strategic judgement, since fixing your AA when you opponent has no planes is stupid... but you don't have to think up any decent reasons the flaws would be fixed.
27-12-2018 02:42:24 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Stupid excuses had worse chances than clever ideas.
27-12-2018 02:42:54 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Plenty of people made stupid devices which were impractically expensive, because of said stupidity.
27-12-2018 02:43:19 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: The prototyping rules hurt that balance heavily, and were bad, but that was a flaw of Tinker.
27-12-2018 02:43:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Plenty of people made stupid devices that were absurdly cheap and common.
27-12-2018 02:44:04 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Name two.
27-12-2018 02:44:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Assault suits.
27-12-2018 02:44:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: blasters.
27-12-2018 02:45:20 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: And why were they stupid?
27-12-2018 02:46:04 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Assault suits did have the flaw of a mechanically complex design, in a game where the GM was already fairly overworked and would ignore it, I'll give you that.
27-12-2018 02:46:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Assault suits?  You mean the general invulnerability, the flight capabilities?
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27-12-2018 02:46:18 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: But really, Blasters?
27-12-2018 02:46:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Heya MJ.
27-12-2018 02:46:22 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Hiya
27-12-2018 02:46:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah, those were stupid as fuck.
27-12-2018 02:46:39 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Assault suits were equally as mobile as battlesuits.
27-12-2018 02:46:51 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: As far as flight.
27-12-2018 02:46:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Hey, lets go make a universal weapon that renders everything else pointless, because the GM forgot that the power source was huge.
27-12-2018 02:47:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Those were also stupid, but at least less cheap.
27-12-2018 02:47:10 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: What’s this?
27-12-2018 02:47:13 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: The only difference was the armor, which ended up being equivalent as well, for the aforementioned reasons.
27-12-2018 02:47:26 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: I mean it’s dev complaining about ER but what specifically?
27-12-2018 02:47:36 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Oh, balance issues?  Sure, sure, Tinker led to lots of balance issues.
27-12-2018 02:47:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I was talking about how Arms Race games aren't much different than Tinker.
27-12-2018 02:47:53 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Nothing about the blasters was at all stupid in universe, though.
27-12-2018 02:47:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You ask for what you want, and you get it.
27-12-2018 02:48:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: other than the power source, and the method of firing.
27-12-2018 02:48:08 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Semantics.
27-12-2018 02:48:15 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: So standard
27-12-2018 02:48:19 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Nopw.
27-12-2018 02:48:32 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: And, like he frequently is with ER, he's objectively wrong and has misremembered details.
27-12-2018 02:48:47 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: I see.
27-12-2018 02:48:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: True enough.
27-12-2018 02:49:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Syv, however, is often in exactly the same boat..
27-12-2018 02:49:40 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Dev, the blasters were powered by a source that had the specific trait of an extreme discharge rate.  It makes sense to make pulse lasers with that, as opposed to constant lasers.
27-12-2018 02:49:50 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: I think at this point in time everyone’s going to be misrembering at least some details just due to the time span since it ended and began.
27-12-2018 02:49:50 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Pulse lasers also just make more sense flat out.
27-12-2018 02:50:01 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Weeellll...
27-12-2018 02:50:19 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: At least with Tinker, I have very specific and good memory of a limited selection of things.
27-12-2018 02:50:51 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I could be somewhat wrong, but I am very very sure about certain stuff, like AS vs BS mobility, and blaster design.
27-12-2018 02:50:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'm not complaining about the pulse laser idea.  I'm complaining about both the impossible power source, and the sheer absurdity of the firing mechanism.  Not that it operated in pulses.
27-12-2018 02:51:11 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Absurdity of the firing mechanism?  Please expand?
27-12-2018 02:51:34 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: As for the impossible power source, that's my point about Arms Race and Tinker being different.
27-12-2018 02:51:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: The beam could break apart really expensive armour that was nearly invulnerable to lasers.  But it didn't break itself.  Instead you had a weapon that was good for unlimited usage.
27-12-2018 02:52:10 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: In Tinker, we got bluraditite from Piecewise, as a random thing nobody asked for or understood at first.
27-12-2018 02:52:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: At the power levels from blasters, it should have either been very huge, or operated with destructive capabilities.
27-12-2018 02:52:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Aye, and it was infinitely reproducable, and PW forgot about the need for shielding.
27-12-2018 02:52:30 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: In Arms Race, if you want an impossible power source, you ask for an impossible power source, and hope for a 5.
27-12-2018 02:52:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You did get your perfect heatsink for your EMG..
27-12-2018 02:53:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: They just don't seem that different to me.  Arms race you can get absurd imbalances, in just the same way.
27-12-2018 02:53:22 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Here's where I could be wrong, but to my memory, blasters couldn't defeat battlesuit grade armoe without melting.
27-12-2018 02:53:47 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: I think they did have a melting point
27-12-2018 02:53:48 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: It's the difference between being creative with what's handed to you, and just getting a broken thing handed to you.
27-12-2018 02:53:55 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: I vaguely rember then having settings
27-12-2018 02:53:58 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: They specifically did.
27-12-2018 02:54:11 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Ten shots, or spend the full battey on one, and melt it.
27-12-2018 02:54:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: What were the settings for?
27-12-2018 02:54:32 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I just don't recall the armor penetration tests for them versus BS armor.
27-12-2018 02:54:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'm pretty sure they were designed to do explicitly that.
27-12-2018 02:54:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That was the exact goal with them.
27-12-2018 02:55:02 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Can’t rember I only really ever played with crystals and the protoaltered
27-12-2018 02:55:02 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I'm pretty sure they weren't.
27-12-2018 02:55:23 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: The exact goal was oneshotting light armor like longcoats.
27-12-2018 02:55:37 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: The *Testament* was designed to defeat BS armor.
27-12-2018 02:55:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: But you could do that without any new weapons..
27-12-2018 02:56:00 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Yeah, but when was Tinker optimized for being practical?
27-12-2018 02:57:23 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: http://einsteinianroulette.wikia.com/wiki/Blaster_Rifle
27-12-2018 02:57:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Seems far too low, considering that there was a requirement to make something to defeat BS armour in order to get accepted into the tinker 'in group.'
27-12-2018 02:57:31 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: You were right, they could defeat one layer.
27-12-2018 02:57:38 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Eh?
27-12-2018 02:58:07 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: If you're referring to Pyro's test, that was explicitly a test of creativity.
27-12-2018 02:58:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Ahh.
27-12-2018 02:58:56 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I'll agree that lasers defeating BS plate at all was stupid, but that *was* Piecewise's decision, before Tinker ever came into the equation.
27-12-2018 03:00:13 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: My point stands.  Blifles were a good design, in a stupid universe.  They were *clever*.
27-12-2018 03:00:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: They were pretty much immune to lasers, except from a blaster rifle, which hit harder than a nuke.
27-12-2018 03:00:21 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: ...
27-12-2018 03:00:24 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Dude.
27-12-2018 03:00:30 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Read the link I sent you.
27-12-2018 03:00:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: They were stupid.  The design was 'take a chunk of space magic, shove it in a laser.'
27-12-2018 03:00:51 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: It explicitly says that they're equal in strength to a cutting laser.
27-12-2018 03:01:50 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: And that derived from Miyamoto, back during his first mission in his BS, getting damaged by a mining laser described as similar strength to a cutting laser.
27-12-2018 03:01:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: and the next line says otherwise..
27-12-2018 03:01:52 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: I think that means it can deafest BS with on shot
27-12-2018 03:02:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: ahh, ok.
27-12-2018 03:02:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: nukes were wussy, then.
27-12-2018 03:02:19 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: "uses a blueshard battery to allow for 10 microsecond pulses per clip equaling about 5 seconds of Cutting Laser power per shot, enough to penetrate and kill a target armored with a single layer of battlesuit plate. "
27-12-2018 03:02:33 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Battlesuits had five layers of armor.
27-12-2018 03:02:38 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Mobility suits had three.
27-12-2018 03:03:06 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: You'd need five blifle shots, aiming and hitting at the same spot and angle, to kill a BS.
27-12-2018 03:03:17 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: OR a meltdown shot, depending on how PW was feeling.
27-12-2018 03:03:29 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Ah
27-12-2018 03:03:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Or one shot, if you pull the trigger a few times.
27-12-2018 03:03:42 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Were I to rule it, that'd take out three or four layers, but PW might make armor penetration linear.
27-12-2018 03:03:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: that is, one turn.
27-12-2018 03:03:55 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Please.  PW never ran the game like that.
27-12-2018 03:03:56 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Where did dubs find the design for the battle suits. I always just found them cool looking
27-12-2018 03:04:19 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: One attack was one turn, regardless of durstion of attack.
27-12-2018 03:04:48 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Plus, aiming five semiauto shots at a single location on a moving target would be *hellish*, IRL.
27-12-2018 03:04:59 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: That wouldn't happen by game or life mechanics.
27-12-2018 03:05:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: well, to be fair, neither would accidently destroying a galaxy-spanning empire.
27-12-2018 03:05:18 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Think they were original with a few disparate influences, MJ.
27-12-2018 03:05:34 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Ah. I was more referring to the piece of art on the wiki.
27-12-2018 03:05:37 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: That totally would happen by game mechanics, Devvy-doo. ;P
27-12-2018 03:05:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Due to collapse of space-magic, while preserving the more space-magic dependant Steve-ocracy..
27-12-2018 03:05:52 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: http://einsteinianroulette.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_suit?file=Battlesuit.jpg
27-12-2018 03:06:30 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Hmm.
27-12-2018 03:06:48 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: That image was player-editted, but the original may have been from him.  It's been awhile.
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27-12-2018 03:07:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: don't know where that came from.
27-12-2018 03:07:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: probably player-made, really.
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27-12-2018 03:08:19 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: The image wasn't.
27-12-2018 03:08:23 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: The text, yes.
27-12-2018 03:09:15 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: ...It's also a bit wrong, since BS armor was ~20 inches thick, IIRC.
27-12-2018 03:10:21 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Hmm BRB
27-12-2018 03:10:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Eh.
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27-12-2018 03:11:29 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I like that line about a three-token microwave amp being just as lethal to a BS pilot as any other person.
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27-12-2018 03:11:47 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Dev, you've got all these complaints about ER, but you can't even focus on the serious ones.  ;P
27-12-2018 03:11:51 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: (syv) I like that line about a three-token microwave amp being just as lethal to a BS pilot as any other person.
27-12-2018 03:12:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You know very well I've talked about that specific one before.
27-12-2018 03:12:13 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: For once I am actually BRB.
27-12-2018 03:12:16 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Weird
27-12-2018 03:12:26 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Talking to you, it's like every single aspect of ER was bad, with no good traits at all.
27-12-2018 03:12:39 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: You say it was a great game, but have nothing but complaints about it.
27-12-2018 03:13:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I can't remininsce about the good times I had playing it, syv, because I didn't have any.  Those were for other people.
27-12-2018 03:13:18 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Hah.
27-12-2018 03:13:23 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Nice pity strat,
27-12-2018 03:13:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Also true.
27-12-2018 03:14:06 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I can reminsce about good times I didn't have while playing it.  There was a lot of ER that was fun to read, before and after I joined.
27-12-2018 03:14:37 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: The serial killer mission was hilarious.
27-12-2018 03:15:13 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Miyamoto getting hit, and *damaged*, by a laser was a big shock, and was awesome.  The whole sound worm mission was exciting, and the escape update had me on the edge of my seat, especially with the last (?) update's *soundtrack*.
27-12-2018 03:15:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Sound worm mission was very good.
27-12-2018 03:15:36 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: The blifle was a good, clever design, which I respect, despite being 100% Radio's idea.
27-12-2018 03:15:45 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: But you never mention anything being good.
27-12-2018 03:15:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: blifle was laser + space magic.
27-12-2018 03:15:53 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: You're always complaining.
27-12-2018 03:16:41 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Yes, and Alida becoming a vertical wolf is literally just a wish.  Happens by pure fiat.
27-12-2018 03:17:22 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: It's an interesting thing that happens, which shouldn't degrade the game.  Being given by fiat isn't a flaw.
27-12-2018 03:17:39 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Oh hey because I was reminded of sythnflesh Apparently some company has started trying to make artificial muscles and it’s really cool.
27-12-2018 03:17:49 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: It's also missing more that the Blifle does have.  We couldn't have made a super amo by attaching a blurad to one.
27-12-2018 03:17:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah you could have.
27-12-2018 03:18:11 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: We could have made a better laser by attaching blurad to one, but it wouldn't have been as good.
27-12-2018 03:18:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: ..That's what you did, really.
27-12-2018 03:18:43 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Making it a pulse laser, a design particularly well suited to a high-capacity quick-discharge fragile power source... was a clever idea.
27-12-2018 03:19:24 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: We couldn't have made a better amp, the stupid arbitrary rules which governed the universe didn't work that way.
27-12-2018 03:19:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Did you try?
27-12-2018 03:19:41 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Also, like.  Lots of people made tinker designs... which were *bad*.
27-12-2018 03:19:48 < * syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos sighs
27-12-2018 03:20:00 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Burden of proof, Dev.
27-12-2018 03:20:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Well.. yeah.
27-12-2018 03:20:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: but you're making similarily unprovable statements.
27-12-2018 03:20:20 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: No, we didn't try a thousand stupid ideas.  That doesn't mean they weren't stupid.
27-12-2018 03:20:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I can't say how well a laser not using pulse mechanisms would have worked, because it wasn't done.
27-12-2018 03:20:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: So I can't say the idea helped it in any way.
27-12-2018 03:20:58 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: We had successful designs, and failed designs, which seemed to map well tk cleverness of the design, and understanding of PW's design/perception of his world.
27-12-2018 03:21:16 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Well, I think that one was actually tested.
27-12-2018 03:21:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: What were the failed designs?
27-12-2018 03:21:22 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Unsure.
27-12-2018 03:21:46 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: The many many things which were way too expensive and/or weren't included in the armory.
27-12-2018 03:22:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Could you pick one?
27-12-2018 03:22:10 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: The sibilus pops to mind.  Various automanip tools, and delivery systems.  Shard grenades.
27-12-2018 03:22:27 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: That drone laser thing I tried to make for Pyro's test was bad.
27-12-2018 03:22:48 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I tried a few Forcefield plasma guns, but nothing worked very well.
27-12-2018 03:23:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Hmm, okay.
27-12-2018 03:23:31 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Actually, I think all our tinkered plasma guns sucked.  The plasma caster was pure fiat Automanip magic, and we couldn't replicate that.
27-12-2018 03:24:09 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: The cyanine suicide pills/grenades I tried for were shot down fast...
27-12-2018 03:24:19 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I'm unsure about Mirrsen's PEW.
27-12-2018 03:24:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: The PEW was fine until someone pointed out that he was going to play silly buggers with the price to hand them out for free.
27-12-2018 03:25:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Would have been better than fine if he ever attached the super-cooling space magic to it.
27-12-2018 03:25:05 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: It was always prohibitvely expensive to me, but I think he ended up working out a way to make it somewhat practical.  I think the idea where it was integrated with an AS, ro use the armor as a heatsink, made it economical.
27-12-2018 03:25:59 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: The coldrods?  Yeah.
27-12-2018 03:26:21 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Don't know why that was never tried.  Too late, probably.  After he left.
27-12-2018 03:26:42 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: OH LOOK AT THAT.  SOMEONE NEEDED TO THINK OF A SPECIFIC COMPATIBILITY FOR THESE TO ITEMS TO BE USEFUL.
27-12-2018 03:26:48 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: BUT NOBODY DID.
27-12-2018 03:27:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Oh look at that, the GM gave you an item specifically intended to turn a 'no' into a 'yes', and you never noticed.
27-12-2018 03:27:22 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: We discussed a bunch of uses for the coldrods, but none of our ideas (mostly armor related) worked.  Because they were bad.
27-12-2018 03:27:40 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Sean spent a long time working on the PEW, but never had as good a solution.
27-12-2018 03:27:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Very similar to arms race that.
27-12-2018 03:27:52 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: wat
27-12-2018 03:28:00 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: It's the exact opposite of Arms Race.
27-12-2018 03:28:11 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: In AR you just roll until you get your thing.
27-12-2018 03:28:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Very similar.  Having a compatability which the payers don't notice?
27-12-2018 03:28:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Extremely common.
27-12-2018 03:28:34 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: In Tinker we sometimes got materials which had uses, but someone had to see them.
27-12-2018 03:28:59 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Tinker was entirely about having xyz items, and abc problems, and matching them.
27-12-2018 03:29:16 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Arms Race--from what I've seen, which isn't much--is entirely abour rolling for success until you roll high/
27-12-2018 03:29:28 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Having good ideas at most gives you minor boosts.
27-12-2018 03:29:46 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: In Tinker, no rolls were involved in the Blifle's design.
27-12-2018 03:29:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah, to it's detriment.
27-12-2018 03:29:59 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Tje same thing in Arms Race would have failed if it got a 3, 1, and 4.
27-12-2018 03:30:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Arms race isn't generally about the rolls at all.  It's figuring out how the sim element works and exploiting that.
27-12-2018 03:30:38 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: The PEW was bad without a specific, suitable improvement.  But in Arms Race would've been amazing if it rolled 5, 5, 5.
27-12-2018 03:31:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Maybe the PEW just rolled badly.
27-12-2018 03:31:21 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Then it isn't about the design at all.  Or is the sim somehow related to the design, beyond "Tjis system makes aircraft awesome.  Let's roll for better aircraft constantly."
27-12-2018 03:31:27 < * syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos sighs
27-12-2018 03:31:56 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: "X and Y are different because one doesn't have Z."  "Maybe both had Z."
27-12-2018 03:32:09 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: such argument, so persuasion.
27-12-2018 03:32:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Heh.
27-12-2018 03:32:57 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: What was it that you wanted with MJ, Dev.
27-12-2018 03:33:01 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: *?
27-12-2018 03:33:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Generally, yeah, that's the case.  It's like 'This game gives good results for designs which integrate space magic.  Lets make sure that all our designs shove magic artifacts in things.'
27-12-2018 03:33:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Mostly just wanted to say hi.
27-12-2018 03:33:32 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Cool. How was your Christmas dev?
27-12-2018 03:33:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Pretty good.
27-12-2018 03:33:51 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: That's still very different from Tinker.
27-12-2018 03:34:15 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: In Tinker, almost nothing mattered or really affected the game, and we certainly didn't aim for the truly relevant stuff.
27-12-2018 03:34:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Eh, central mechanic against a sideline.
27-12-2018 03:35:23 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: In Tinker, good "play" revolved around getting a theoretically good item at a low price.  In AR, good play revolves around determining the best category of equipment, and rolling for it as often as possible.
27-12-2018 03:35:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Not usually.  It's determining the best category of equipment and rolling for it at the appropriate frequency, along with determining the best uses for revisions.
27-12-2018 03:36:16 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Fine.  It still has nothing to do with design.
27-12-2018 03:36:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: There's a fair bit of variety as for how mechanics work, too.  The one with the skyships failed because one side didn't use revisions properly and the other side did.
27-12-2018 03:36:44 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: "How often can we roll for the good things?  Which bad rolls are impactful?"
27-12-2018 03:37:08 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Still.  Nothing like tinker.
27-12-2018 03:38:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Not that different.  It's just that in tinker, good stuff was 'things that integrated plot devices'.  Usually in arms race, you can also get a boost simply from having a good statement about a design, which is why I can't play that, because I like to talk down other designs as well, which sometimes results in a penalty when they inevitably win.
27-12-2018 03:39:58 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Uh.  Is a non-sequitur even a logical fallacy?
27-12-2018 03:40:02 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I thiiink it is.
27-12-2018 03:40:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You mentioned earlier about how having a good explanation for something was a benefit in Tinker, and that was different than in arms race.
27-12-2018 03:42:15 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: You can't talk up an impossible idea, and if you fail to describe why a good idea is good, it may still be good if Piecewise understood.
27-12-2018 03:42:33 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: It didn't have machanically integrated persuasion.
27-12-2018 03:42:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah, very similar.
27-12-2018 03:42:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: just replace PW with GM.
27-12-2018 03:42:50 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: ...
27-12-2018 03:43:03 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: In arms race you can talk up a bad idea.
27-12-2018 03:43:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: In ER, you could talk up a bad idea, too.
27-12-2018 03:43:18 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: You get shit by fiat without an explanation.
27-12-2018 03:43:43 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: You said "Yeah", to my previous statement, which explicitly disagrees with your statement there.
27-12-2018 03:44:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Not at all.
27-12-2018 03:44:35 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: ...
27-12-2018 03:44:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You can do both of those in both games, and they're a big part of each.
27-12-2018 03:44:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: So yeah, very similar.
27-12-2018 03:44:54 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Fine, I said "impossible", and you said "bad".
27-12-2018 03:45:15 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: You are a bad conversationalist.
27-12-2018 03:45:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You can totally talk up impossible ideas in both.
27-12-2018 03:45:19 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Anyway.
27-12-2018 03:45:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Sorry, I misread that.
27-12-2018 03:45:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: thought you said 'can'.
27-12-2018 03:46:07 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: In Arms Race, if you get a 4+1 because the GM liked your explanation, it's better than the 4 you'd get if the GM understood your idea.  In Tinker, if you came up with a good idea, and explain it, you get a good result.  If you come up with a good idea, don't explain it, and Piecewise understands anyway, you get a good result.
27-12-2018 03:46:44 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: In Tinker, if you come up with a good idea, and explain it, you get a good result.  In AR, you come up with a good idea, and explain it, but roll a 1+1, you get a bad result.
27-12-2018 03:46:53 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: This is very different.
27-12-2018 03:47:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: "It's Tinker with more die rolls."
27-12-2018 03:47:52 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: It's... like, if in DaS, if you time a parry perfectly, you get rewarded with a riposte 100% of the time you do it.  Not 50%.  Or 67%.  And you don't just randomly get ripostes when blocking without parrying.
27-12-2018 03:48:20 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: It's gambling with tinker competence assisting your odds.
27-12-2018 03:48:39 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: It's like PUBG vs Tribes II.
27-12-2018 03:48:58 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Being good at shooters, and communicating with your team well, is useful for both.
27-12-2018 03:49:34 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: But in one, that's 100% of individual success, and in the other, there's a lot more luck.
27-12-2018 03:49:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's not 100%, or you wouldn't have failed some of your good ideas.
27-12-2018 03:50:20 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: They weren't good.  They were creative, but they had flaws due to incomplete information or misunderstandings.
27-12-2018 03:50:53 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: If I were "better" at Tinker, I'd have tried fewer of them, and more ideas that would have worked.
27-12-2018 03:51:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah, very, very similar to arms race.
27-12-2018 03:51:14 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: No.
27-12-2018 03:51:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It really is just arms race with fewer dice rolls.
27-12-2018 03:51:31 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: You just say that without supporting it, repeatedly.
27-12-2018 03:52:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Okay.  What would you like examples of?
27-12-2018 03:52:20 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Heh.  If you are trolling me, that'd actually be pretty funny, since when you got me arguing this you made me *stop* working on PS.
27-12-2018 03:52:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: (I'm not trolling, syv.)
27-12-2018 03:52:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I am slightly amused at your absolute certaintly about arms race games when you haven't played one.
27-12-2018 03:52:52 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I don't really think you are.
27-12-2018 03:53:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: reminds me of RC's sig.
27-12-2018 03:53:10 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I know nothing about this, but ha-damn it.
27-12-2018 03:53:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Should ask him who he's quoting there.
27-12-2018 03:53:53 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I used to worry it was me, but ended up deciding that I wouldn't phrase it that way.
27-12-2018 03:54:04 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: "I have strong opinions about it" isn't how I'd write that.
27-12-2018 03:54:31 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: If I had to guess it would be himself. That seems like the kind of joke RC would make
27-12-2018 03:54:52 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Anyway.  Ideas in Arms Race failing purely and completely due to player error, without a roll, or being outvoted/talked down/politics in general.
27-12-2018 03:55:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: There's Moskurg's three machine guns in Arms Race I.
27-12-2018 03:55:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Quite a lot of effort for nothing regardless of rolls.
27-12-2018 03:56:05 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: (I also, admittedly, am basing my perception of Arms Race mostly on information given by you and ER.  I did read an OP and some updates way back, but they could have been flukes.)
27-12-2018 03:56:21 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Uh huh.  Why they useless?
27-12-2018 03:56:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: They had another machine gun 95% as good.
27-12-2018 03:56:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: so no matter what the roll was, there simply were no improvements to be had.
27-12-2018 03:56:49 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: ...Yeah, that doesn't count.
27-12-2018 03:57:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Arstotzka's plant walls in Wands Race 1.
27-12-2018 03:57:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: They had pretty good rolls, but they simply weren't much use when the other side has napalm.
27-12-2018 03:58:14 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: The blifle and Testament were basically equivalent weapons which were both designed well, and performed in the same roll, but either could have been the sole weapon and likely nothing would have changed.  At most the Blifle would've been better, due to the melting mechanic.
27-12-2018 03:58:46 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Okay.  That one's better.  Did they have any idea the opponents had Napalm?
27-12-2018 03:58:49 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Nah dude you just make them like fire resistant plant walls :P
27-12-2018 03:58:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That is a difference.. duplication of effort didn't matter much in Tinker, because you didn't have limited resources.
27-12-2018 03:58:59 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: ...Also, ^
27-12-2018 03:59:07 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Yup.
27-12-2018 03:59:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Not napalm, but they knew we had less advanced fire bombs.
27-12-2018 03:59:21 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: So that was pretty idiotic.
27-12-2018 03:59:44 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: It still doesn't really imply any similarity to Tinker.
27-12-2018 04:00:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's stuff that couldn't have worked regardless of rolls.
27-12-2018 04:00:09 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: It implies weapon and armor functionality being related to the equipment possessed by your enemies.
27-12-2018 04:00:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Their steam cannons fully succeeded despite four ones.
27-12-2018 04:00:19 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Are you gonna claim that was relevant in Tinker?
27-12-2018 04:00:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: If ER was better, it would have..
27-12-2018 04:00:35 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: But it wasn't.
27-12-2018 04:00:51 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: If Tinker was better, peesuasion would've had zero part in it.
27-12-2018 04:00:53 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: But it wasn't.
27-12-2018 04:01:11 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: ...Persuasion.  That is a horrible typo and I feel bad.
27-12-2018 04:01:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I don't think it would have been better, actually.
27-12-2018 04:01:33 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Personal taste.
27-12-2018 04:01:45 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: My point stands.
27-12-2018 04:01:53 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Arguing about what the games would be like in an
27-12-2018 04:02:03 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: "ideal" state is moving the goal posts.
27-12-2018 04:02:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah... but you brought that up.
27-12-2018 04:02:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It doesn't matter.
27-12-2018 04:02:30 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: No I didn't!
27-12-2018 04:02:46 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: You did, by saying "yeah, if it was better".
27-12-2018 04:02:56 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: GTG
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27-12-2018 04:03:37 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: My argument would be more effective with a "No", and your method of creating a "Yes" was moving the goal posts by changing the nature of the subject from the real thing to an ideal thing.
27-12-2018 04:03:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's the difference between a sideline mechanic and a core mechanic.
27-12-2018 04:04:16 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: You'll have to define these two things for me.
27-12-2018 04:04:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'll give it a try.
27-12-2018 04:04:47 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: And explain how they're relevant.
27-12-2018 04:05:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Tinker was created to keep people happy doing stuff while not going on missions, while the game was created around the idea of idiots in space going on missions.
27-12-2018 04:05:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Arms race was created to explore interactions between people creating objects with certain assumptions in mind.
27-12-2018 04:05:29 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Yes.
27-12-2018 04:05:35 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Okay.
27-12-2018 04:05:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: So while I can't define 'core mechanic' against 'sideline mechanic', can you see why I'd consider one belonging to one category, while the other belonging to the other category?
27-12-2018 04:06:08 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Umm.
27-12-2018 04:06:17 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: No, honestly?
27-12-2018 04:06:27 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I don't know what you mean.
27-12-2018 04:07:02 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: "Tinker and Arms Race are the same game, when used as a sideline mechanic to ER, versus being an entire game in itself?"
27-12-2018 04:07:21 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: As in, any difference exist because of their different intended function?
27-12-2018 04:08:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That probably would be the die rolls.
27-12-2018 04:08:20 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Yes or no, Dev.
27-12-2018 04:08:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: and the limited resources.
27-12-2018 04:08:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Some.  Not as much as I'd expect, though.
27-12-2018 04:08:45 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: When I ask a question, don't define a random noun in said question instead of answering.
27-12-2018 04:09:10 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I have literally no clue what the "some" is supposed to mean.
27-12-2018 04:09:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: some of the differences.
27-12-2018 04:09:48 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: are...?
27-12-2018 04:09:53 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: More words, friend.
27-12-2018 04:10:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: some of the differences between the two, such as the limited resources and die rolls, are a result of the core mechanic vs the sideline mechanic.
27-12-2018 04:10:38 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: "of the"
27-12-2018 04:10:56 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Do you mean "of them being a"?
27-12-2018 04:11:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: ...?
27-12-2018 04:11:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: no.
27-12-2018 04:11:18 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: As in, the differences are caused by one being a sideline mechanic to a game, versus the other being an entire game?
27-12-2018 04:11:21 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: (assuming no)
27-12-2018 04:11:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yes, that's what I mean.
27-12-2018 04:11:40 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Okay.
27-12-2018 04:12:10 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Counterpoint: Saying that "X is like Y, except with traits A, Bm C, and D
27-12-2018 04:12:54 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: , which were caused by its differing environment." is not a convincing argument of X and Y being basically the same thing.
27-12-2018 04:13:10 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: They're certainly *related*, but are entirely different in practice.
27-12-2018 04:13:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yes, but it's defining where I think the main differences lie, and why I think those differences exist.
27-12-2018 04:13:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I don't see why it would follow that they're entirely different.
27-12-2018 04:13:55 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: It's like saying someone who likes housecats will like lions, because they're both felines.  It might be true, for some definitions of like, and some people.
27-12-2018 04:14:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Do you like lions?
27-12-2018 04:14:20 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I absolutely believe that some people who enjoyed Tinker would enjoy AR.  Maybe even for the same reason.
27-12-2018 04:14:35 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Not as much as tigers, but yes.  I'd hate to own one, though.
27-12-2018 04:14:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Do you have any other differences that you can think of, syv?  I've demonstrated a few similarities, even ones that exist despite the limited resources and die rolls.
27-12-2018 04:16:18 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Existence of politics, existence of competition, the general traits which lead to success being entirely different, and the general behaviors which lead to success being entirely different.
27-12-2018 04:16:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Those were two where good die rolls didn't overcome bad decision making, and one where bad die rolls and an impossible idea didn't succeed.
27-12-2018 04:16:39 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: So what?
27-12-2018 04:16:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: So die rolls in themselves aren't a deal-breaker preventing the games from being similar.
27-12-2018 04:17:14 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: It's like arguing that Dark Souls and Tales of Berseria are similar games because they're both action/adventure games which take place in a fantasy setting.
27-12-2018 04:17:37 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Playing them is nothing alike.  At most they're cosmetically similar, and in the same genre.
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27-12-2018 04:18:02 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I'll agree that AR is in the same genre as Tinker, as compared to ER, PS, or Cult.
27-12-2018 04:18:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Could be.  Does Berseria have the same model-based and animation-based combat system?
27-12-2018 04:18:13 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Nope.
27-12-2018 04:18:23 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: But Tinker doesn't have die rolls or revision.
27-12-2018 04:18:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Nah, it sounds to me like you consider Tinker's important elements to be ones different than the ones I think are important.
27-12-2018 04:18:58 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: ...Sure.
27-12-2018 04:19:27 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Because it will entertain me and piss me off, what are Tinker's important elements?
27-12-2018 04:19:45 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Also, hello A.
27-12-2018 04:20:04 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I'm just arguing with Dev about a minor system which was a part of a game that died years ago.
27-12-2018 04:20:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Plus the tinker council was loaded with politics and argument.
27-12-2018 04:21:06 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Well, I was blind to that.
27-12-2018 04:21:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Freedom of design, setting-based scenario to work around, and unlimited experimentation budget.
27-12-2018 04:22:52 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Unlimited experimentation budget is relevant.  The others are essentially genre, for freedom, and cosmetic, for scenario.
27-12-2018 04:23:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: A good arms race game needs a scenario for the people to work from.  It's what leads to the interesting mechanics, and not crappy ones like everyone pursing endless missiles.
27-12-2018 04:23:47 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: You can't really make a design game without freedom of design, or at least it'd be quite hard.  Same for an action game without fights.
27-12-2018 04:24:46 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: As for scenario... any interesting mechanics which derived from that would make a difference from ER.
27-12-2018 04:24:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I think you could make a design game without freedom of design, actually.
27-12-2018 04:25:27 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: It'd be harder.  At least, a good one.  Same as an action game without fights.
27-12-2018 04:25:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.
27-12-2018 04:25:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Not necessarily worse, though..
27-12-2018 04:25:51 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: We had setting, in the sense of tech level, and the UWM as an enemy, but weren't designing things for particularly relevant setting problems.
27-12-2018 04:25:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: restrictions can define games as well.
27-12-2018 04:26:08 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Yup!
27-12-2018 04:26:22 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: That doesn't mean the lack of restrictions is defining in all cases.
27-12-2018 04:27:08 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: If something is broadly assumed for a genre, complying with it isn't a trait that makes two genre games particularly similar.
27-12-2018 04:27:24 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: ...You know, I'd totally agree AR and Tinker were in the same genre.
27-12-2018 04:27:37 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Is that all you've been trying to say?
27-12-2018 04:27:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: More or less, yeah.
27-12-2018 04:27:57 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Huh.
27-12-2018 04:28:33 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: (syv) Maybe it's my experience with tinker making me biased, but I've never understood why people like Arms Race and its derivatives.
27-12-2018 04:28:33 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: (Devastator) Didn't you like Tiniker?
27-12-2018 04:28:33 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: (Devastator) It's Tinker with more die rolls.
27-12-2018 04:28:55 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: To be fair, I was hyperbolic with "never understood why".
27-12-2018 04:29:28 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I suppose "It's Tinker with more die rolls" is also hyperbolic.
27-12-2018 04:29:57 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Could be argued to simply be mental streamlining for the purpose of making conversation.
27-12-2018 04:30:02 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I'm tired.
27-12-2018 04:30:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Heh.
27-12-2018 04:30:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Or putting things in a point of view 'why would someone add die rolls to tinker' that might lead to an interesting conversation.
27-12-2018 04:30:39 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Oh, I totally get that.
27-12-2018 04:31:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: back to PS?
27-12-2018 04:31:14 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Making things luck based is broadly an improvement for popularity; people love a gamble.  And it evens the playing field, so everyone stands a chance.
27-12-2018 04:31:27 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Ugh.  Yeah.  I have no good excuse not to.
27-12-2018 04:32:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Could fire up the Spelunky failstream for a while.
27-12-2018 04:33:45 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: No.
27-12-2018 04:35:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You would have gotten to hear me howl in frustration because the game handed me an impossible scenario..  ;-p
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27-12-2018 04:49:25 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Hey, Jaggers.
27-12-2018 04:49:29 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Heya Syv
27-12-2018 04:49:36 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: I’m back for a bit
27-12-2018 04:49:45 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: How was the rest of the argument?
27-12-2018 04:50:17 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: We kept going until it was realized that we pretty much hold the same position.
27-12-2018 04:50:33 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Always a disappointing end to a good argument.
27-12-2018 04:50:55 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Indeed.
27-12-2018 04:51:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Heh.
27-12-2018 04:51:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Well, got a change to my predictions of Kingkiller Chronicles book 3..
27-12-2018 04:51:30 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Or it’s completely hilarious. Depends on how much vitriol is used
27-12-2018 04:51:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Ever read those, MJ?
27-12-2018 04:51:44 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Maybe?
27-12-2018 04:51:50 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: What are they about?
27-12-2018 04:52:09 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Oh name of the wind
27-12-2018 04:52:17 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: I’ve read the rest one of those
27-12-2018 04:53:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: first?
27-12-2018 04:53:17 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Heh, yeah
27-12-2018 04:53:21 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Bad typo
27-12-2018 04:53:47 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: The second is way too exciting, so it's bad for resting~
27-12-2018 04:53:56 < * syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos hasn't finished the first
27-12-2018 04:54:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I like them.  Lots of stuff hidden inside them.
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27-12-2018 04:56:17 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I just find Kvothe kind've boring.  Also mildly upsetting, his flaws are too close to some of mine.
27-12-2018 04:56:38 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Biggest thing, though, is just how damn LONG the books are.
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27-12-2018 04:57:00 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: It has a lot of good parts, but also a lot of slogging.
27-12-2018 04:57:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Most of the slow bits have important stuff about the metaplot, so to speak.
27-12-2018 04:58:14 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: And I find the metaplot so glacially slow that's it's more like syrup full of ash than meat.
27-12-2018 04:59:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Eh, not that slow.
27-12-2018 05:00:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: But yeah.
27-12-2018 05:00:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I can see that.
27-12-2018 05:01:11 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: It’s definitely better than the book I’m reading. Mines  like black and white morality when it really should be more like Grey and black morality.
27-12-2018 05:01:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Miles better than say, the Wheel of Time.
27-12-2018 05:02:06 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Indeed.
27-12-2018 05:02:35 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: But I don't really read much like that.  I vastly prefer short and sweet.
27-12-2018 05:03:07 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: I never read wheel of time I’ve heard it’s good but never got into it
27-12-2018 05:03:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's nine books (I think) with about one and a half books worth of content.
27-12-2018 05:04:09 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Hmm, lot of filler? Or does the author just run out of ideas
27-12-2018 05:04:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: insane amounts of filler.
27-12-2018 05:04:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I think Robert Jordan had every intention of writing them for the rest of his life, and accomplished that.
27-12-2018 05:05:02 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Is it interesting filler at least?
27-12-2018 05:05:06 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Money
27-12-2018 05:05:08 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: ?
27-12-2018 05:05:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Some of it.
27-12-2018 05:06:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: But.. yeah.  It's frightfully slow.
27-12-2018 05:07:09 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Hmm, when I run out of everything else to read outside of technical Manules I’ll give the first book a whirl.
27-12-2018 05:07:42 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: And you still won't have read PS:T.  Or finished that VN.
27-12-2018 05:07:55 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Maybe I need to mail you physical novelizations of things.
27-12-2018 05:08:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'd do half of the technical manuals first.
27-12-2018 05:08:45 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: ...That bad?
27-12-2018 05:09:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I think I'd summarize the seventh book in a paragraph.
27-12-2018 05:09:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: it's 900 pages.
27-12-2018 05:09:49 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: ...Wow.
27-12-2018 05:09:54 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: I’ll finish it up eventually Syv.
27-12-2018 05:09:55 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: What is the paragraph?
27-12-2018 05:10:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Uhh..
27-12-2018 05:10:06 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Before the heat death of the universe definetly
27-12-2018 05:10:13 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: 100 guarantee
27-12-2018 05:10:19 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: ^%
27-12-2018 05:11:12 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Yeah, eventually I'll meet your children and convince them to nag you about it.
27-12-2018 05:11:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: "Female protagonist #2 arrives at the tower she's spent three books walking towards.  She is refused an audience and spends several hours trying to bribe meaningless people and failing.  What does happen is confirmation that their kind of magic is the reverse of the kind of magic being used by the protagonists."
27-12-2018 05:11:37 < a!a@2601:240:4b80:qsru:lxn:qwvy:gguj:ulwg: hey people
27-12-2018 05:11:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Heyo Leodanny.
27-12-2018 05:11:45 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Hey, A!
27-12-2018 05:11:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Rough turn in 888th.
27-12-2018 05:11:49 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: How's B?
27-12-2018 05:11:55 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Oh, yeah.  That.
27-12-2018 05:11:57 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Sorry.
27-12-2018 05:12:28 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: So it's not even a conclusion to anything, Dev?
27-12-2018 05:12:30 < a!a@2601:240:4b80:qsru:lxn:qwvy:gguj:ulwg: polaris, stop freaking out and putting me at the top of the page every time someone posts something.
27-12-2018 05:12:51 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Hoya A
27-12-2018 05:13:00 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: h0i
27-12-2018 05:13:31 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Hmm. I looked it up apprently there’s twelve books and a prequel
27-12-2018 05:13:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Nope.
27-12-2018 05:13:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah, he wrote 11, and then someone finished them off after he was dead.
27-12-2018 05:13:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Really, it's one book.
27-12-2018 05:13:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Stop after the first one.
27-12-2018 05:14:19 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Huh, Brandon Sanderson apparently wrote the one after he died
27-12-2018 05:14:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: For full disclosure, I didn't finsih the series.  I got through nine of them and gave up.
27-12-2018 05:14:51 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: That actually might worth reading he’s good at marking really long books feel worth their length.
27-12-2018 05:15:46 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Problem is, there's writers who are really good at making short books worth the read, as well.
27-12-2018 05:16:15 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: And you miiiight just be able to read all of them in the same time span as it'd take to read all the WoT books.
27-12-2018 05:16:31 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Oooh!  WoT's WoT?  Awesome!
27-12-2018 05:18:51 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Man dev. You make those technical Manuel’s sound rather compelling :P
27-12-2018 05:20:12 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Hmm.  Dev, are there any technical manuals you remember being a really really nice and pleasant read?
27-12-2018 05:20:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Heh.
27-12-2018 05:22:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: City of gold!
27-12-2018 05:22:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: and 99 bombs thanks to Kali.
27-12-2018 05:23:15 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: !
27-12-2018 05:23:22 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: That's a lot of bombs.
27-12-2018 05:23:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.  And everything in the city of gold turns into money when you blow it up.
27-12-2018 05:23:57 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I've no idea how common Spelunky bombs are, thougg.
27-12-2018 05:24:02 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Oooh.
27-12-2018 05:24:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: and dead.
27-12-2018 05:25:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: caveman tripped a thwomp trap off-screen.
27-12-2018 05:25:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: slid right into me while I was jumping.
27-12-2018 05:25:27 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: There seems to be a lot of random deaths in Spelunky.
27-12-2018 05:26:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That one was technically avoidable, but it would have required more caution than I usually express.
27-12-2018 05:29:15 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: There seems to be a lot of technically avoidable deaths in Spelunky.
27-12-2018 05:29:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.
27-12-2018 05:29:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'm not really cautious enough for it.
27-12-2018 05:29:54 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Maybe it's my kind of game, then.
27-12-2018 05:30:03 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: You ever play I Wanna Be The Guy?
27-12-2018 05:30:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Nope.  Looks a bit too harsh for me.
27-12-2018 05:30:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Besides, I got my share of high-precision platformers with N.
27-12-2018 05:31:08 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: N?
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27-12-2018 05:31:39 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Bye, MJ.
27-12-2018 05:31:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N_%28video_game%29
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27-12-2018 05:32:58 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: N++
27-12-2018 05:33:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: N+3
27-12-2018 05:36:21 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Hi MJ.
27-12-2018 05:36:26 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: NP?
27-12-2018 05:36:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: N's also about momentum.
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27-12-2018 05:37:39 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Bye, MJ.
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27-12-2018 05:38:11 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Bouncy bouncy
27-12-2018 05:40:39 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Hi MJ.
27-12-2018 05:41:08 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Hiya Syv
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27-12-2018 05:44:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You could try some N if you want, Mj.
27-12-2018 05:44:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: wouldn't mind hearing your impression of it.
27-12-2018 06:00:29 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Hmm.
27-12-2018 06:00:38 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Is it a browser game?
27-12-2018 06:01:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's 12 years old, so it's a flash game.
27-12-2018 06:04:45 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Alright lemme see if I can find a mic.
27-12-2018 06:08:14 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Mic has been found
27-12-2018 06:09:23 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Dev and Syv it should be up
27-12-2018 06:09:38 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Not watching a stream tonight, sorry.
27-12-2018 06:10:05 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: No prob
27-12-2018 06:10:06 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I need to go to work in seven hours, and preferably finish this update within one.
27-12-2018 06:10:12 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Sorry.
27-12-2018 06:10:13 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Devastator?
27-12-2018 06:10:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I am.
27-12-2018 06:10:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That's N all right.
27-12-2018 06:10:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's called that because you're a ninja.
27-12-2018 06:11:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You can walljump.
27-12-2018 06:12:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: mines aren't very friendly.
27-12-2018 06:13:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: hold it down longer.
27-12-2018 06:13:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: ninja can jump higher than you might be thinking.
27-12-2018 06:14:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: don't forget about walljumps.
27-12-2018 06:21:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: uh oh.
27-12-2018 06:21:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: This one's tricky.
27-12-2018 06:24:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: that's a bad place.
27-12-2018 06:27:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: nailed something.  ;-p
27-12-2018 06:28:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah, these aren't easy.
27-12-2018 06:29:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: might want to try the bottom on that last one.
27-12-2018 06:29:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: you have more time to go through.
27-12-2018 06:30:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You still have to time it so you don't slam straight into one, though.
27-12-2018 06:32:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Heh.
27-12-2018 06:32:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You can walljump up quite fast, actually.
27-12-2018 06:32:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: With two very close walls you can jump fast enough to smash yourself on a ceiling.
27-12-2018 06:33:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Oh, you heard about it before now?
27-12-2018 06:35:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: bam.
27-12-2018 06:37:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: use that triangle at the base for a leg up.
27-12-2018 06:37:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: run onto it and then jump.
27-12-2018 06:37:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: nice dodge there.
27-12-2018 06:38:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah, the base of the lower-right wall.
27-12-2018 06:38:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: if you jump and hold after you hit that, you go a lot higher.
27-12-2018 06:38:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: you can also hit said triangle and not splatter.
27-12-2018 06:45:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: There you go.
27-12-2018 06:48:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: did you hit the gate?
27-12-2018 06:48:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Nice.
27-12-2018 06:48:49 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: God damn it.  I rolled for Aleksandra's dream, got a 1 on RTD.
27-12-2018 06:49:07 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: But this is exactly what I'd write if I got no direction.
27-12-2018 06:49:11 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I feel guilty.
27-12-2018 06:53:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Ahh, the puppies.
27-12-2018 06:53:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Heh.
27-12-2018 06:53:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: The game says yes!
27-12-2018 06:53:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It agrees with you.
27-12-2018 06:53:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That's what those enemies are called.
27-12-2018 06:54:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: puppies.
27-12-2018 06:54:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: for the record, if you hit the door and then would smash into the floor, it counts as a win.
27-12-2018 06:55:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: you do have to not be dead at the moment you reach the door, though.
27-12-2018 06:56:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Try to land on the left wall of the holes for two or three holes.
27-12-2018 06:56:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: then try the direct shot.
27-12-2018 06:57:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: maybe 3 then.
27-12-2018 06:58:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: If you do manage to slide down the right wall that's safe too, just harder.
27-12-2018 06:59:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: you had it!  Just gotta start stopping yourself a bit sooner.
27-12-2018 07:01:20 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Done, sheets last thing now.
27-12-2018 07:01:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah, you think they can't get harder, and then they do.
27-12-2018 07:01:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: sweet.
27-12-2018 07:07:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You want to do the big jump all the way to the right.
27-12-2018 07:07:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: it gives you more of a lead over the missile.
27-12-2018 07:08:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You can also walljump off the sides of the bouncy boxes.
27-12-2018 07:09:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: you want to hit walljump while you still have lots of up momentum.
27-12-2018 07:09:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: that gives you more up momentum.
27-12-2018 07:10:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: any unexpected disasters, syv?
27-12-2018 07:10:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: hit that walljump button earlier.  You don't need to hit left into the wall.
27-12-2018 07:10:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Just hit jump when you're next to the wall.
27-12-2018 07:11:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: There you go.
27-12-2018 07:11:24 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Aside from Aleksandra's dream, no.
27-12-2018 07:11:31 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Posted.
27-12-2018 07:11:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yay, thank you.
27-12-2018 07:11:53 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: I'm going to eat some soup because I'm shivering, and then leave.
27-12-2018 07:11:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: This one is just a bit of a pain.
27-12-2018 07:11:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: see you, syv.
27-12-2018 07:12:07 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: WHY is winter so cold?
27-12-2018 07:12:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: you can jump straight over the upper row, too.
27-12-2018 07:13:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: at least some of them.
27-12-2018 07:13:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: don't need a walljump.
27-12-2018 07:14:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: ouch.
27-12-2018 07:14:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Thank you for playing.
27-12-2018 07:14:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: thoughts?
27-12-2018 07:15:04 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: I liked it
27-12-2018 07:15:31 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Hard but not impossible and simple one you get the hang of it
27-12-2018 07:15:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You also have more than one level set to choose from.
27-12-2018 07:15:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Thanks for playing it.
27-12-2018 07:17:38 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Nice
27-12-2018 07:19:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I am going to get some food.
27-12-2018 07:19:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Reading Pumsy's.
27-12-2018 07:20:15 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: No prob
27-12-2018 07:24:44 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@193.sub-145-294-2.myvzw.com: Night
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27-12-2018 07:26:03 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Bye, MJ.
27-12-2018 07:31:17 < syv!syvarris@72.168.ihm.zos: Night, Dev.
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27-12-2018 07:37:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: http://loweringthebar.net/2018/12/thief-dangles-from-fence.html
27-12-2018 07:37:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That's a critfail.
27-12-2018 07:43:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Very much like a 1.
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27-12-2018 13:22:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: @#$%
27-12-2018 13:22:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Sullla is doing a MoO1 playthrough RIGHT NOW on twitch, and I should have checked his site.
27-12-2018 13:23:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: phew.
27-12-2018 13:23:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's just the old video.
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27-12-2018 13:36:42 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hey Dev.  Still awake?
27-12-2018 13:37:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yes.
27-12-2018 13:37:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: What's up?
27-12-2018 13:38:00 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Scattered clouds above a flimsy ceiling.
27-12-2018 13:38:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Heh.
27-12-2018 13:38:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Thanks for the update.
27-12-2018 13:40:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yes.
27-12-2018 13:40:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I do think you put a bit too much of yourself into them, though.  You could put half as much work into them and the quality would still be excellent.
27-12-2018 13:41:08 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I know/
27-12-2018 13:41:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I have very little comprehension or control of how I write, though, which makes it very hard to put just half as much in.
27-12-2018 13:42:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Hmm.
27-12-2018 13:42:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: The All Night Laundry guy uses a clock.
27-12-2018 13:42:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: the drawing is done when the clock buzzes.
27-12-2018 13:42:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Maybe I should try making a second game to put half of myself into, so that I can update *this one* more often.  That makes sense. :P
27-12-2018 13:42:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Excellent plan.
27-12-2018 13:42:51 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: All Night Laundry?  Never heard of it.
27-12-2018 13:42:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: http://www.sullla.com/Civ4/Survivor/S3/survivor3-16-5.jpg
27-12-2018 13:42:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Like this war declaration.
27-12-2018 13:43:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's not that great, but someone had an idea of making an illustrated comic that updated every single day.
27-12-2018 13:44:22 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Did Shaka declare war on Tokugawa?
27-12-2018 13:45:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yes.
27-12-2018 13:46:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You okay with Alida just chatterboxing while high on cake?
27-12-2018 13:47:25 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yup.
27-12-2018 13:48:10 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's starting to wear off of her a bit, but she's still more affected than not.
27-12-2018 13:48:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Figured she'd be a bit buzzed while high on cake and high on Berzerker.
27-12-2018 13:48:52 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Makes sense.
27-12-2018 13:49:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'll get birdgame updated sometime today.
27-12-2018 13:49:07 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Ooh!
27-12-2018 13:49:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Oh, you're going to do pretty well with your rewards.
27-12-2018 13:49:20 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...That reminds me.  I have to finish the cat/mouse setting.
27-12-2018 13:49:28 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Deadline is still New Years?
27-12-2018 13:49:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.
27-12-2018 13:49:37 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hrm.
27-12-2018 13:50:12 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Does it have to be *complete*, or is it okay if only the necessary stuff is finished?
27-12-2018 13:50:28 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'd hope for the former but will likely only complete the latter.  :\
27-12-2018 13:50:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: More complete is better.
27-12-2018 13:53:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Also, it really isn't out of character for your bird to ask for power.  You would have been briefed and instructed to come back with something.
27-12-2018 13:53:44 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh?
27-12-2018 13:53:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Okay then.
27-12-2018 13:54:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.  Like the other guys in the original game, you would have been told to recover items/power/blessing, etc, in order to help everyone.
27-12-2018 13:55:28 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Well, that makes me feel a little better there.
27-12-2018 13:55:45 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Knew I should've reread the relevant birdgame bit.
27-12-2018 13:56:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's fine.
27-12-2018 13:57:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Anyway, you want your powers?  I'm afraid they're all passives.
27-12-2018 13:58:00 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Sure!
27-12-2018 13:58:11 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Actually, Yes, Yes I do!
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27-12-2018 16:08:21 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hello sev
27-12-2018 16:08:29 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: siv
27-12-2018 16:08:33 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: syv
27-12-2018 16:08:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you might think I did that on purpose but I'm actually just really bad at typing
27-12-2018 16:09:02 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hello Devastator
27-12-2018 16:09:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Hello.
27-12-2018 16:09:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: did win in Spelunky.  Missed the City of Gold due to an unlucky rock propelled by a red frog, and decided to go for an ordinary win because syv was watching.
27-12-2018 16:09:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: heh
27-12-2018 16:10:31 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh hey ER!
27-12-2018 16:10:53 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Back home in the mountains yet?
27-12-2018 16:10:58 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yes
27-12-2018 16:11:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Big mountains or small mountains?
27-12-2018 16:11:19 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: was occupied yesterday because it's my dad's nirthday.
27-12-2018 16:12:02 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the mountains are small, but definately are mountains and not hills. :P
27-12-2018 16:12:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: very old mountains, so they're eroded.
27-12-2018 16:14:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Young mountains are cooler.
27-12-2018 16:14:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: all pointy.
27-12-2018 16:14:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: and these guys have glaciers on them.
27-12-2018 16:14:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: well, most of them.
27-12-2018 16:15:07 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You people live in strange places.
27-12-2018 16:15:21 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Everything down here is flat and heavily wooded.
27-12-2018 16:15:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: blasters are cool btw
27-12-2018 16:15:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Lots of woods around here.
27-12-2018 16:15:33 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Blifles~
27-12-2018 16:15:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah, glaciers are cool.
27-12-2018 16:15:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that's what it was like down where I was two days ago, syv.
27-12-2018 16:16:11 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: very... boring.
27-12-2018 16:16:32 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Was it swampy and wet, too?
27-12-2018 16:16:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Yeah.
27-12-2018 16:16:55 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Were you in Florida?
27-12-2018 16:17:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: No, Georia.
27-12-2018 16:17:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Snow.
27-12-2018 16:17:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Peoria?
27-12-2018 16:17:26 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Georgia is flat?
27-12-2018 16:17:28 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I
27-12-2018 16:17:45 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: 've been to Georgia several times, it has lots of little mountains
27-12-2018 16:17:58 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the part I was in was
27-12-2018 16:17:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Might be relative.
27-12-2018 16:18:16 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: South Georgia?
27-12-2018 16:18:32 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Savannah, wherever that is
27-12-2018 16:18:35 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I normally go to North Georgia.
27-12-2018 16:19:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I've been to Atlanta and I think it's a little less boring? Hard to tell in urban areas because the natural terrain is modified and hidden.
27-12-2018 16:19:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah, southeastish Georgia.
27-12-2018 16:19:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: as I figured.
27-12-2018 16:20:43 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Only a few hours north of me, apparently.  Prolly pretty close in terms of environment.
27-12-2018 16:20:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Yup.
27-12-2018 16:21:28 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: fairly similar to New Orleans, which I've also been to a few times.
27-12-2018 16:35:59 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...I like how Asha is way more badass from other people's perspectives than from her own.
27-12-2018 16:37:03 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: She's very self-doubting and insecure, yeah?
27-12-2018 16:37:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also horribly depressed.
27-12-2018 16:37:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: how tragic.
27-12-2018 16:37:55 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: <3
27-12-2018 16:39:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I guess that's what we hired you for~
27-12-2018 16:40:51 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Wait, I was hired?
27-12-2018 16:40:55 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Where
27-12-2018 16:41:01 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: 's my pay?
27-12-2018 16:41:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I dunno. This is really high-quality entertainment so there's no way that we're not paying you for it, right?
27-12-2018 16:45:30 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah.
27-12-2018 16:45:42 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Go try that attack on titan game and stream it for me.
27-12-2018 16:46:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: http://aotrc.weebly.com/download.html
27-12-2018 16:46:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: wasn't there a link to download it? Rather not play in the browser
27-12-2018 16:46:29 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ah, cool
27-12-2018 16:50:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "guns are strong" she says
27-12-2018 16:50:14 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ?
27-12-2018 16:50:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well, it's true!
27-12-2018 16:51:40 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Who says that?
27-12-2018 16:51:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Alida just did.
27-12-2018 16:51:53 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh.
27-12-2018 16:52:03 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: In reaction to having a body instakilled by a bullet. :P
27-12-2018 16:53:07 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...I kinda really want someone to examine her face, but I'm also kinda worried because it's not very normal to lovingly detail how a bullet has destroyed a teenage girl's skull.
27-12-2018 16:53:36 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you do it out of love, of course
27-12-2018 16:54:10 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Mmmmnope.
27-12-2018 16:55:13 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: okay, stream is up
27-12-2018 16:55:28 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...tell me if I need to downscale it or something
27-12-2018 16:55:29 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Watching.
27-12-2018 16:56:07 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Looks fine.  Assuming you're just leaving the entry screen open and not doing anyth--oh.
27-12-2018 16:56:10 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Music!
27-12-2018 16:56:43 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You wanna play in TPS btw.
27-12-2018 16:57:03 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: kay :P
27-12-2018 16:57:13 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah.  Three view modes, TPS is the only good one.
27-12-2018 16:58:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: TPS?
27-12-2018 16:59:24 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Third Person... uhh.. Screen?
27-12-2018 16:59:32 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Chinese developer.  *shrug*
27-12-2018 16:59:33 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: third person shooter
27-12-2018 16:59:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I.. don't think Alida will turn her body over.  Maybe change out the soaked gear for bloody gear, but not going to turn the face over.
27-12-2018 16:59:42 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Yeah, prolly.
27-12-2018 16:59:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you know, like FPS
27-12-2018 16:59:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: and then probably let that body fade away.
27-12-2018 17:00:07 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: in this you're just shooting grapples, but portal is a game that's in FPS perspective
27-12-2018 17:00:08 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: If you hold shift while in the air, you're propelled by gas.
27-12-2018 17:00:22 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah.  And you can shoot guns, so...
27-12-2018 17:01:28 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I only ever see noobs using the double grapple.
27-12-2018 17:01:30 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Heh.
27-12-2018 17:01:50 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Don't release the double grapple, and it'll pull you to a stop in front of the warp.
27-12-2018 17:04:11 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Heheh.
27-12-2018 17:04:16 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Tasty.
27-12-2018 17:05:12 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Close.
27-12-2018 17:05:25 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Very close!
27-12-2018 17:05:30 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hah!
27-12-2018 17:05:43 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hit the ground too hard.
27-12-2018 17:06:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Woo!
27-12-2018 17:06:59 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I think you got your first kill faster than I did.
27-12-2018 17:07:04 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Fewer tries, at least.
27-12-2018 17:08:14 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Niiice!
27-12-2018 17:08:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Egan streaming?
27-12-2018 17:08:22 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Is that two in a row?
27-12-2018 17:08:24 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yup.
27-12-2018 17:08:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: He's doing pretty great, actually.
27-12-2018 17:08:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'll be out and about tomorrow, so this is my last full day off.
27-12-2018 17:09:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Damn.
27-12-2018 17:09:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Levi seems pretty good
27-12-2018 17:09:59 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Levi is by far the best.
27-12-2018 17:11:31 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ER, there's two hidden mechanics that the game doesn't tell you about.  Gas bursts, which is basically a midair dodge that consumes ~4% of your gas, and I thiiink is by default done by double tapping a direction key.
27-12-2018 17:12:02 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And reeling, which by default uses the scroll wheel.  It extends or retracts attached grapples, to alter your orbit.
27-12-2018 17:12:43 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: The default binds suck in both cases, but everything is rebindable with the mod.  I put gas burst on the same key as dodge, since you can only use one or the other, and they perform the same function.
27-12-2018 17:12:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: is it also hiding a way to pick a new level without closing the program? >:|
27-12-2018 17:13:03 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Escape, then quit.
27-12-2018 17:13:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: escape doesn;t do anything
27-12-2018 17:13:38 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Whatever pauses.
27-12-2018 17:14:19 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: P.
27-12-2018 17:14:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nothing pauses
27-12-2018 17:14:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Heh.
27-12-2018 17:14:35 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Try it while alive?
27-12-2018 17:14:41 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: wait, p is pause
27-12-2018 17:14:42 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Damn it, I reset my bindings...
27-12-2018 17:15:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: stabbing the mouth seems hazardous.
27-12-2018 17:15:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's mostly an exercise in defiance :V
27-12-2018 17:15:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: WoW camera mode?
27-12-2018 17:15:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I assume that's right click drag
27-12-2018 17:17:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: don't rebind in that menu.
27-12-2018 17:17:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: When in game, pause, and use the blue menu.
27-12-2018 17:17:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It actually lets you change everything
27-12-2018 17:17:48 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: (I pm'd that the dev..._
27-12-2018 17:17:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ah
27-12-2018 17:20:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Where are the gardens?
27-12-2018 17:21:01 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: No gardens.
27-12-2018 17:21:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: munchies.
27-12-2018 17:21:38 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: For some reason your version has a different pavement texture than mine.
27-12-2018 17:22:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: munchies.
27-12-2018 17:24:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: murders!
27-12-2018 17:25:27 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Ouch.
27-12-2018 17:25:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: munchies!
27-12-2018 17:25:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That is a high wall.
27-12-2018 17:26:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Needs to keep titans out.
27-12-2018 17:27:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Doesn't seem to be working.
27-12-2018 17:27:29 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: An even bigger titan showed up.
27-12-2018 17:28:04 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Alleyway titans are hard.
27-12-2018 17:28:17 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Good job!
27-12-2018 17:28:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Just about.
27-12-2018 17:28:36 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm
27-12-2018 17:28:53 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: who put "reload level" right next to "reload level"?
27-12-2018 17:29:00 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Default binds suck.
27-12-2018 17:29:20 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Another bit of advice: Put jump/gas on right click.
27-12-2018 17:29:40 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You want to hold it down A LOT, and stretching your pinky for it cramps.
27-12-2018 17:29:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I put special on middle click/
27-12-2018 17:31:38 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I like this background music!  What is it?
27-12-2018 17:31:43 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Perturbator?
27-12-2018 17:33:29 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Mikasa's special is great against these guys.
27-12-2018 17:33:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: dang, damage but no kill.
27-12-2018 17:34:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: did your swords run out of gas?
27-12-2018 17:34:18 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Durability.  They broke.
27-12-2018 17:34:29 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Aww.
27-12-2018 17:34:36 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: He punched you with his shoulder.
27-12-2018 17:34:37 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: https://youtu.be/kN19aRDhTWU
27-12-2018 17:34:55 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Thank you!
27-12-2018 17:35:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: There's no texture for damaged blades, but they pop off when they run out of HP, and you have to draw a new pair.  I presume the fragility is why they're designed like razor blades.
27-12-2018 17:35:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: draw a new pair?
27-12-2018 17:35:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: How many do you carry?
27-12-2018 17:36:13 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Eight plus two loaded
27-12-2018 17:36:22 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And they're used in pairs.
27-12-2018 17:36:35 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hahaha, aww.
27-12-2018 17:37:08 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: If you want, I could put up a server with respawns so that you don't lose progress on death, ER.
27-12-2018 17:37:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nah
27-12-2018 17:40:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: punch.
27-12-2018 17:41:30 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's weird how effective hiding in a titan's crotch it.
27-12-2018 17:41:32 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: *is
27-12-2018 17:43:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: ouch.
27-12-2018 17:43:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Really, this seems like it'd be much easier in pairs.
27-12-2018 17:44:21 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: YEAH
27-12-2018 17:44:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah
27-12-2018 17:44:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: nice snag there.
27-12-2018 17:44:43 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I can join.
27-12-2018 17:44:50 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Or Dev could!
27-12-2018 17:47:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: well, that guy's energetic.
27-12-2018 17:49:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: stab them eyes already.
27-12-2018 17:50:35 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh, some of these seem to be spoilers for the anime.
27-12-2018 17:50:40 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Just a fair warning.
27-12-2018 17:51:09 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...And, uh, US servers largely don't work.
27-12-2018 17:51:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah
27-12-2018 17:51:31 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: There's a sustained DDoS on the US master server, which makes them virtually never appear.
27-12-2018 17:52:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: blond.
27-12-2018 17:52:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Any particular reason for it?
27-12-2018 17:52:31 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Someone decided they hated the guy who made the game.
27-12-2018 17:53:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: happens.
27-12-2018 17:54:27 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: That is some lag.
27-12-2018 17:54:31 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh, wait stream.  zduh.
27-12-2018 17:54:42 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hehe
27-12-2018 17:56:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Punk.
27-12-2018 17:56:43 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Punks are elite and kill everyone easily.
27-12-2018 17:57:27 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Wow.  That was close.
27-12-2018 17:57:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: laggy?
27-12-2018 17:58:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: do the bodies disappear in the anime?
27-12-2018 17:59:52 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yes, but more slowly.
27-12-2018 18:01:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: aww
27-12-2018 18:01:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: looked good there
27-12-2018 18:03:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: nice save.
27-12-2018 18:03:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: how do you customize the custom characters?
27-12-2018 18:04:28 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Go back to the entry menu, there's an option at the top for it.
27-12-2018 18:05:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: glasses!
27-12-2018 18:08:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no baldness allowed?
27-12-2018 18:09:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Saitama wouldn't need swords.
27-12-2018 18:09:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: The mod allows a lot more customization, but you have to upload a bunch of stuff to imgur.  Or use links someone else made.
27-12-2018 18:09:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: The sliders are RGB, if you didn't notice.
27-12-2018 18:10:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yup
27-12-2018 18:10:36 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh.  SPD is *ground* speed, and dodge distance.  GAS is how much gas you have before needing a refill, but gas bursts are percentage based.  BLA is blade durability, and ACL is speed boost from gas.
27-12-2018 18:11:13 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: alright
27-12-2018 18:11:17 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You can add or subtract up to 25 to/from each, but it must balance out to 400.
27-12-2018 18:11:32 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I pretty much always do 125 spd/acl, because tryhard.
27-12-2018 18:12:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Heh.
27-12-2018 18:12:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: blades of glass.
27-12-2018 18:12:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Those are just like big razors.
27-12-2018 18:13:01 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: `1
27-12-2018 18:14:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: oh, multiple slots.
27-12-2018 18:14:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: phew.
27-12-2018 18:16:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Get to the killin!
27-12-2018 18:19:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh yeah, so you could make saitama
27-12-2018 18:19:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: just women aren't allowed to be bald!
27-12-2018 18:20:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: saitama with hair?
27-12-2018 18:21:50 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And weapons...
27-12-2018 18:22:05 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Actually, you could use a custom script the make the swords and gear invisible.
27-12-2018 18:22:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: He'd still need to reload his fists, but hey.
27-12-2018 18:22:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: works for me.
27-12-2018 18:22:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and you'd have to make sure to hit the weak spot every time :P
27-12-2018 18:23:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: reloading fists are just fine.
27-12-2018 18:23:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: or maybe hack it so that you kill where ever you hit
27-12-2018 18:23:07 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Uh.  What was the name/pass?
27-12-2018 18:23:16 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: There are bad hacks for this game.
27-12-2018 18:23:37 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Every community I've seen *really* hates them.  Really really bad.
27-12-2018 18:23:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'm sure.
27-12-2018 18:23:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: yet they keep coming..
27-12-2018 18:41:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Should play something from PM3.
27-12-2018 18:41:57 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Grief Syndrome?
27-12-2018 18:41:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: eh
27-12-2018 18:42:10 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: We never did do a co-op of the ultra hard mod :P
27-12-2018 18:42:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I assume you mean recreate one of those characters in this
27-12-2018 18:42:29 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I like GS, would be willing to play again
27-12-2018 18:42:32 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I kinda did?  Pink hair, pigtails, happy?
27-12-2018 18:42:55 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...I vaugely want to mod it more before I rope people into playing it again.
27-12-2018 18:42:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I meant the music.
27-12-2018 18:43:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ah, music
27-12-2018 18:43:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I never got a youtube playlist for it that I found satisfying.
27-12-2018 18:44:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah, it has a lot of hit-or-miss songs.
27-12-2018 18:45:23 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Login doesn'r work.
27-12-2018 18:45:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: neat :P
27-12-2018 18:45:36 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: BRB
27-12-2018 18:47:04 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Back.
27-12-2018 18:50:06 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Special attack between his shoulder blades after he does an attack.
27-12-2018 18:51:05 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: From the front, hooking on the side of the head and the shoulder, while modulating gas and holding the direction *away* from the titan, can get you on the nape pretty well.
27-12-2018 18:51:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ez
27-12-2018 18:51:51 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Nice.
27-12-2018 18:51:59 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Now do that 14 more times! :P
27-12-2018 18:52:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: a kd ratio of 1:1 is a victory for mankind!
27-12-2018 18:53:00 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: or at least, better than expected!
27-12-2018 18:53:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: probably would be.
27-12-2018 18:53:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Starting off, the easiest and most reliable kill method is to attack the eyes, then immediately land behind and wait for them to do the slam.  Then hook on their upper back, gas forward, and special once you're close enough.
27-12-2018 18:54:03 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: The placement differs by height, but is relatively easy to learn.
27-12-2018 18:54:51 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: *lands behind you*
27-12-2018 18:56:21 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Good!
27-12-2018 18:57:53 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: If you're too high, aim low with the special to adjust your trajectory.
27-12-2018 18:58:53 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: The aberrants are easiest to deal with by waiting for them to start their belly flop, then bursting to a side, landing, then spinning into the *side* of their neck.
27-12-2018 18:59:32 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: damn, ran out of sword
27-12-2018 18:59:33 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Ran out of sword.  :(
27-12-2018 18:59:44 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Huh.  Both of phrased it like that.  Weird.
27-12-2018 18:59:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yup
27-12-2018 18:59:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: lack of sword.
27-12-2018 18:59:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well that's what it is
27-12-2018 19:01:16 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: The little ones can be knocked over by slashing their ankles.
27-12-2018 19:01:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that one was an accident :P
27-12-2018 19:01:35 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Then you can just aim a special at their shoulder blades while standing, and it'll send you right into the nape.
27-12-2018 19:01:52 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Outside The Walls is interesting.
27-12-2018 19:05:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: humanity win!
27-12-2018 19:15:30 -!- Disconnected from server...
27-12-2018 19:16:00 -!- Connected to server...
27-12-2018 19:16:00 -!- parisbre56[Away]!parisbre56@pwp731964096424.access.hol.gr has joined #einsteinianroulette
27-12-2018 19:16:00 -!- Topic for #einsteinianroulette: Intergalactic Day of Mourning for 2016 (2016-2016)
27-12-2018 19:16:00 -!- Topic set by Remalle!Variety@i2246816zi629tu21.vc.shawcable.net [Tuesday 03 January 2017, 06:26:56]
27-12-2018 19:26:28 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: :I
27-12-2018 19:26:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: gg
27-12-2018 19:26:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I got one kill!
27-12-2018 19:27:08 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Trost II?
27-12-2018 19:27:13 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Escort titan eren.
27-12-2018 19:27:27 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: 90% sure there's no boss.
27-12-2018 19:27:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: kinda tired for now
27-12-2018 19:27:36 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: kk
27-12-2018 19:38:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: http://loweringthebar.net/2018/12/thief-dangles-from-fence.html
27-12-2018 19:38:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Brings new meaning to the phrase 'caught with your pants down.
27-12-2018 19:47:24 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Saw it, funny.
27-12-2018 19:47:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.
27-12-2018 19:48:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'm still wondering how you'd end up with your pants up while doing that.
27-12-2018 19:58:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the hell is a .msi file
27-12-2018 19:58:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: microsoft installer?
27-12-2018 20:00:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Installing some utility?
27-12-2018 20:01:42 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the installer for the epic games thingy is a .msi for some reason
27-12-2018 20:02:13 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: what the actual
27-12-2018 20:02:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "install path cannot me more than 32 characters long. please select a shorter install location."
27-12-2018 20:02:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Nothing wrong with that.
27-12-2018 20:02:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Okay, that's slightly more unusual.
27-12-2018 20:03:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: who the fuck programmed this
27-12-2018 20:04:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: There are some drawbacks to backwards compatability.
27-12-2018 20:05:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: for gaming, you almost certainly don't need to be backward compatable past windows XP
27-12-2018 20:05:41 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: did XP have a limitation for that?
27-12-2018 20:06:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: For .msi length?  Almost certainly.
27-12-2018 20:06:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That one would, reading this, run back to 2000.
27-12-2018 20:07:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's because .msi files need to be uniquely, and specifically, identified.
27-12-2018 20:25:49 -!- Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht has joined #einsteinianroulette
27-12-2018 20:26:24 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Good evening and a merry late Christmas guys and gals.
27-12-2018 20:27:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: happy slightly-less late boxing day to you, sir.
27-12-2018 20:28:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Heya RC.
27-12-2018 20:28:56 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Boxing day is such a weird term for a holiday.
27-12-2018 20:29:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nuh-uh
27-12-2018 20:29:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I have no idea why that name is used.
27-12-2018 20:29:52 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Makes me think it's the day of the boxing world championship finals or something.
27-12-2018 20:30:00 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Or maybe a less lethal Purge day?
27-12-2018 20:30:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: So what brings you here?
27-12-2018 20:30:16 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Heya Radio.
27-12-2018 20:30:33 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Just checking in while doing some other stuff.
27-12-2018 20:30:48 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Figured why not, it's been a while.
27-12-2018 20:30:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Good to see you.
27-12-2018 20:30:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Any Cabal talk?
27-12-2018 20:31:15 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Well, I was gonna respond to Saeko now actually.
27-12-2018 20:32:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Oh, cool.
27-12-2018 20:32:48 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Speaking of, you've been mentioning the idea of fighting us a lot lately. Are you planning some dastardly betrayal in our near future perhaps?
27-12-2018 20:34:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Nah, not particularly.  I think you managed to fullfill the goal of not arriving while covered in blood.
27-12-2018 20:34:39 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Darn invisible blooded monsters, you can never be sure.
27-12-2018 20:35:14 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Well yeah, we wanted to cover ourselves in the entrails and blood of the local townsfolk.
27-12-2018 20:35:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It would have been fully possible.
27-12-2018 20:35:58 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Strolling in pre-blooded would just be a horrible faux pas.
27-12-2018 20:36:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: So what's the response?
27-12-2018 20:36:41 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Nice to see that book action payed of, it's a solid lead.
27-12-2018 20:36:51 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Interested, depending on the price.
27-12-2018 20:37:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Interested in what, specifically?
27-12-2018 20:37:37 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Stat upgrades.
27-12-2018 20:38:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: need moar details..  ;-p
27-12-2018 20:39:09 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: End to d8, then spd to d8, then str to d8 if possible.
27-12-2018 20:40:19 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Gonna bring up the jade tablets this turn, by the way.
27-12-2018 20:40:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That's 2 d12 casts and a d6 and a d12 cast.  I think Saeko will be getting a little nervous when it comes to that final cast, and will probably double the mana price for it.
27-12-2018 20:40:46 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: As well as the teleporter map, though that might not be usable underwater, dunno.
27-12-2018 20:40:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: A little big on the "I'm making someone a monster" thing.
27-12-2018 20:42:46 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: What, you don't trust us?
27-12-2018 20:42:54 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: But that's fine as long as she gets paid more~
27-12-2018 20:42:55 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: But we're so adorably innocent!
27-12-2018 20:43:20 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: I mean, sure, that one guy keeps spearing people straight in the mouth, but just don't think about that too much.
27-12-2018 20:43:48 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Or at all.
27-12-2018 20:43:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Anyway, from the prices I've quoted, that's 800 gold and 34 mana, plus failures, for the first two d12 spells.
27-12-2018 20:43:59 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Damn.
27-12-2018 20:44:32 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And what reason does Saeko have to believe that they won't just murder her and take that back after she turns them into monsters?
27-12-2018 20:44:48 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: That's a lotta mana, wowzers. I assume that includes the spell mana costs?
27-12-2018 20:44:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.
27-12-2018 20:45:01 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: 34 mana plus failures is a TON of magic, especially disposable.
27-12-2018 20:45:03 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: How will we take that mana back exactly?
27-12-2018 20:45:10 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Channeler?
27-12-2018 20:45:22 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Does she have any reason to think you *can't*?
27-12-2018 20:45:27 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Neither of us is a channeler though?
27-12-2018 20:45:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'll take that will roll to defend against it, personally.
27-12-2018 20:45:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: d10+1.
27-12-2018 20:45:38 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Does she trust that though?
27-12-2018 20:45:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Got two guards with me, and there are things that can be done.
27-12-2018 20:45:55 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Well, first a spd roll to see who acts first, presumably.
27-12-2018 20:46:01 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: If I were in her position here, serious alarm bells would be going on.
27-12-2018 20:46:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.  That said, Saeko really needs the mana.
27-12-2018 20:46:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: You don't get a will roll to resist channeler drain. Nobody has ever gotten a roll to resist that, and it's not in the rules.
27-12-2018 20:46:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Ahh, never mind.
27-12-2018 20:46:31 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Why, syv? She is the one that offered the magical upgrade.
27-12-2018 20:47:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'd probably go with the mind control attempt, then, if it goes for combat.
27-12-2018 20:47:16 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: From her position, all that happened is two blokes showed up offering to help her with her bugman problem.
27-12-2018 20:47:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: two blokes who now appear to have quite a lot of gold and mana
27-12-2018 20:48:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.
27-12-2018 20:48:22 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And who likely don't seem all that harmless.
27-12-2018 20:48:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And who clearly want to be better at killing.
27-12-2018 20:49:04 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And who don't mind spending a massive amount of magic and gold for relatively minor killing upgrades.
27-12-2018 20:49:10 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Again, based on what? The fact that they responded to the call?
27-12-2018 20:49:38 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Seriously, isn't 800 gold enough to live comfortably off of for years, if not decades?
27-12-2018 20:49:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: pretty much.
27-12-2018 20:50:25 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: You seem to be assuming we'll just be going along with the first offer here? Secondly, we are responding to a call to deal with man-hunting bugmen.
27-12-2018 20:50:27 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Based on the sheer amount they're willing to part with for relatively minor boons, and the clear fact that they're powerful and probably stand a good chance of victory if they attack her, guards or no.
27-12-2018 20:51:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: syv, I offered the services.
27-12-2018 20:51:21 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Us saying "why thank you miss, a little bit of an edge would indeed be nice against those monsters that almost abducted you" seems terribly fishy to you?
27-12-2018 20:51:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: The gold price is a bit negotiable, though.  I don't need that much gold.  I will quite likely, need the mana as well.
27-12-2018 20:52:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: just the fact that you HAVE that much gold and mana is fishy, how you act with it is irrelevant.
27-12-2018 20:52:51 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: I mean, if you took out an add to help get rid of some wild bore on your land, a bloke shows up and accepts your offer to sell him your rifle cause it's better than what he has, you'd suddenly go "Oh man that guy sounds fishy".
27-12-2018 20:53:02 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And, again, the fact that you could kill her, abd that would make the loss of the gold elementary.
27-12-2018 20:53:06 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, gotta go, bye.
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27-12-2018 20:53:19 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Like, why even offer it if you're gonna be super suspicious if they are interested?
27-12-2018 20:53:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Umm.. RC, I'm saying that I'm willing to do it.
27-12-2018 20:54:07 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Yeah, was talking to syv.
27-12-2018 20:54:30 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Why was arguing from a position of "If I were saeko then I would X".
27-12-2018 20:54:34 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: *who
27-12-2018 20:55:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Also, Saeko would offer to charge you one-quarter the gold price of everything if you give her thirty mana so she can upgrade End to +2 before doing this.  Should save on failures.. and the risk of critfails.
27-12-2018 20:57:27 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: 600 gold = 24 mana. Hmm.
27-12-2018 20:57:46 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: We'll need to save some mana for the actual quest as well.
27-12-2018 20:58:16 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Currently have 54 mana in reserve.
27-12-2018 20:59:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: eh, the lower risk of failures will save you some as well.
27-12-2018 21:00:08 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: And we can offer her to let her search for words, and perhaps loan her the teleporter map to help with evacuating people.
27-12-2018 21:00:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I suppose I'll cut off five mana from the base cost if you give the 30 for +2 end.
27-12-2018 21:00:26 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: True, but 30 mana up front is a large sm to part with, I'm sure you understand.
27-12-2018 21:00:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.
27-12-2018 21:00:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: so 200 gold and 29+failures instead of 800 gold and 34+failures.
27-12-2018 21:01:38 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Plus 30 up front.
27-12-2018 21:03:07 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Still a ton of mana, more than we actually have.
27-12-2018 21:04:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Well.. yeah.  You're asking for several big spells.
27-12-2018 21:04:46 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: True, but I'm trying not to completely break the bank here just before we'll need mana for the actual quest.
27-12-2018 21:05:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Didn't you get paid like 2000?
27-12-2018 21:05:33 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: A quest that, I must add, pays like 35 gold in return to track down man hunting giant bugmen..
27-12-2018 21:06:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I didn't have tons to pay you.
27-12-2018 21:07:05 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Perhaps we could forego quest rewards (aka pretend the quest reward is rolled into the upgrade payment) and throw in the jade tablet search and in return lower the mana payment.
27-12-2018 21:07:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I need the mana to cast the spells, though.
27-12-2018 21:07:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That's a non-starter.
27-12-2018 21:07:37 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Don't you have like 11 left still?
27-12-2018 21:08:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.
27-12-2018 21:08:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Don't you have like 2000 that you could turn into mana?
27-12-2018 21:08:36 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Yep, but we'll also need that money for other endeavours.
27-12-2018 21:10:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'll be getting like 10 mana from this deal.
27-12-2018 21:11:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That's not a lot of profit.
27-12-2018 21:11:22 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: And while a d6=>d8 is worth more than a single +1 to me, if the cost of the former becomes too astronomical it might not be worthwhile. Currently we're looking at a total cost of 67 mana!
27-12-2018 21:11:28 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: And a +2 to end.
27-12-2018 21:11:50 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Don't forget about that, seeing as how it costs 30 mana and all that.
27-12-2018 21:11:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.  And five mana for that, but it'll save you mana on failures.
27-12-2018 21:12:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: If I'm sitting on zero mana, I've got screwed.
27-12-2018 21:12:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: however much I've gained.
27-12-2018 21:12:45 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: It might, bad rolls could still push up the costs up to potential infinity!
27-12-2018 21:13:44 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Maybe it'll be easier if we say 'mana costs of spells&failures + a certain amount on top'?
27-12-2018 21:14:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That's not much different than what I'm charging, but sure.
27-12-2018 21:14:44 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: That way you'll be sure you won't end up with no mana, and that +2 will still be there.
27-12-2018 21:16:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Lessee..
27-12-2018 21:16:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: 800 + 17 + failures plain.
27-12-2018 21:17:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Nah, use both so less math.
27-12-2018 21:17:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: 800 + 34 + failures.
27-12-2018 21:17:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: or 200 + 29 + failures with the +2 end.
27-12-2018 21:18:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You want the +2 end on it, so say.. 200 + spells and failures + 33?
27-12-2018 21:18:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: sorry.
27-12-2018 21:18:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: just a sec.
27-12-2018 21:19:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: 200 + spells and failures + 9?
27-12-2018 21:20:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Ugh, that's not a lot.  Need that +2 to make it worth it.
27-12-2018 21:24:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That should be a bit cheaper.
27-12-2018 21:24:32 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: What about this: you bring end and spd from d6 to d8.   In return we: do the bugman quest (no reward needed, the 35 gold bounty was pitiful anyway) + spells&failures + you can look through the jade tablets and keep any word you find +30 mana for upgrade + 4 mana OR 100 gold.
27-12-2018 21:25:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: No.
27-12-2018 21:25:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I need mana.  doing it for nothing isn't an option.
27-12-2018 21:25:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'd rather ditch the +2 than do it for nothing.
27-12-2018 21:25:46 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: It seems like a fair deal to me, you still come out ahead massively without actually giving up anything.
27-12-2018 21:26:11 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: After all, all the costs are accounted for so doing the spell costs you nothing but a few turns.
27-12-2018 21:26:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you're not talking about anything interesting so I'm gonna peace. later
27-12-2018 21:26:21 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: See ya.
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27-12-2018 21:27:13 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: We can forego that 30 mana up front and instead put a part of it into the mana payout, though only a bit of it seeing as not having that +2 increases the risk for us again.
27-12-2018 21:28:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: When you say giving up anything, saeko will take off her gloves and show you her burned forearms.
27-12-2018 21:28:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: "This is what happens when I cast powerful spells on people.  I get hurt, and sometimes badly wounded."
27-12-2018 21:29:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: If the price is too much, just do one spell at a time, or break it into pieces.  But I need mana to do my work.
27-12-2018 21:30:00 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Only when you roll badly though. Either way, I can't really go up from this offer, otherwise the costs become just too high. I mean, for my offer we're still looking at a mana cost of around 50.
27-12-2018 21:30:17 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: For the near equivalent of two +1's that's pretty high.
27-12-2018 21:31:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: So get less done, then, and I'll split the one End spell into two d8s.
27-12-2018 21:31:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: that's the spells +10 + 100 gold.
27-12-2018 21:33:06 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: And the quest and the tablets?
27-12-2018 21:33:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Those would be seperate deals.  You take the quest and get paid, and get some extra from back.  Tablets were the ordinary deal, although in all liklihood, if there are words on them I'll find one worth buying.
27-12-2018 21:34:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: If 50 mana is too much, and it is a lot, the easiest solution is to buy less magic.
27-12-2018 21:34:16 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Again, that 35 gold is pitiful for a quest with this kind of risk, not to mention we'll probably need to spend mana in it as well in the form of spells.
27-12-2018 21:34:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I don't have thousands of gold.
27-12-2018 21:35:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: If you don't want to do the quest, don't do the quest.
27-12-2018 21:35:26 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Indeed, so you can pay in advance by lowering the asking price for the spells.
27-12-2018 21:35:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: To less than my cost?
27-12-2018 21:36:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That's not gonna work.  I've got a patient, and, quite honestly, a more important quest.
27-12-2018 21:36:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: How about some other buffs then?
27-12-2018 21:36:39 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Again, in the deal any costs for you (for spells or fixing failures) are accounted for, you stand no chance of losing out here.
27-12-2018 21:36:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Something that's a more reasonable price.
27-12-2018 21:37:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Well, your offer seems to be 'my costs, and nothing.'
27-12-2018 21:37:14 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: You are ignoring the 30 mana for that +2?
27-12-2018 21:37:16 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Really?
27-12-2018 21:37:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'd rather not have that +2 if it leaves me with no spare mana.
27-12-2018 21:37:31 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Even though you'll need that +2 to help power up the birb?
27-12-2018 21:37:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Heh.
27-12-2018 21:37:51 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: How will it leave you with no spare mana, if any actual mana costs are already accounted for?
27-12-2018 21:38:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Because I want to cast two scrying spells at d6 each, and I have a current patient.
27-12-2018 21:38:31 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Again, you still come out ahead. Perhaps not as much as you had hoped for, but even if the spells go really bad there's no chance of you ending up in the red on this deal.
27-12-2018 21:38:45 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: I'm sure those spells could wait a turn or two, I mean really now.
27-12-2018 21:39:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah, they could.
27-12-2018 21:40:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Hmm, so you're offering me any word from the tablets?
27-12-2018 21:40:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I think I'll take that, then.
27-12-2018 21:40:34 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: As part of the spell deal, sure.
27-12-2018 21:40:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: If they have words on them.
27-12-2018 21:41:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: and I can have two.
27-12-2018 21:41:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: But.. ugh.
27-12-2018 21:41:45 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: You'd be allowed to keep the tablets themselves, meaning you can learn and unlearn them as needed.
27-12-2018 21:41:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: words are good, but my choice of four mana or 100 gold..
27-12-2018 21:43:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: half and half okay?
27-12-2018 21:43:41 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: How do you mean?
27-12-2018 21:43:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: 50 gold should pay most of my expenses, and 2 extra mana will give me just a little bit of breathing room for this patient.
27-12-2018 21:45:21 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: What about this:  End and spd up to d8. In return, you can look through the jade tablets and keep any word you find +  spells&failure costs + 10 mana (can convert 1 mana to 25 gold as needed, so eg 6 mana and 100 gold).
27-12-2018 21:45:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That should be good.  I'll probably take 6 and 100.
27-12-2018 21:46:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Oh, that's not including the 30 mana for the +2 end?
27-12-2018 21:47:03 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Well no.
27-12-2018 21:48:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Is that an offer to take any one word?
27-12-2018 21:49:50 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: You can keep any tablet that has a word on it that your type of mage can read, up to say, 5 tablets max. So if you can identify 4 tablets with Invoker words on them, you can keep all 4.
27-12-2018 21:51:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: If they have at least 3 invoker words on them (my cap), I'll take that, with a 6 mana 100 gold split.
27-12-2018 21:52:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Every word short is an extra six mana or 150 gold.
27-12-2018 21:52:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: how's that sound?
27-12-2018 21:52:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I won't take more than my cap.
27-12-2018 21:53:45 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: How about 2 extra mana or 50 gold for every word short?
27-12-2018 21:54:18 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: "Wizard needs mana badly" seems to be the sentiment of the day  :p
27-12-2018 21:54:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.
27-12-2018 21:54:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: and you're sitting on what, 125 mana?
27-12-2018 21:54:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: ;-p
27-12-2018 21:55:11 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Dude, we have /plans/ for that mana, you wouldn't believe.
27-12-2018 21:55:26 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Anyways, is it a deal?
27-12-2018 21:55:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Eh, split the difference to 4 and 100.
27-12-2018 21:55:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's probably not relevant, as I bet you have words on those.
27-12-2018 21:57:25 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: For the record, if there are enough words on those tablets to get to at least 3, but they're not that great, what then?
27-12-2018 21:58:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I take 3.
27-12-2018 21:58:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You've got what, forty-some tablets?
27-12-2018 21:58:42 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: 35-ish
27-12-2018 21:58:51 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: The other tablets have words for Ecalir on them.
27-12-2018 21:59:00 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: So those are a no go, of course.
27-12-2018 21:59:17 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: So, in summary:  End and spd up to d8. In return:  spells&failure costs + 10 mana +  you can look through the jade tablets and keep the tablet of any word you find (up to 3 tablets, any tablets less than 3 is payed out as 4 mana instead). You can convert 1 mana to 25 gold as needed for the payout.
27-12-2018 21:59:24 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Is that correct?
27-12-2018 21:59:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It'd be interesting to know if she can read tablets with words for other people on them.
27-12-2018 21:59:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Ok.
27-12-2018 21:59:54 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Don't think so, according to the rules.
27-12-2018 22:00:51 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Ok then, I'll add it to my post (gonna shove the details of the deal into OOC, would be weird to talk like that IC).
27-12-2018 22:01:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: In all honesty, I'm not terribly happy.  I was hoping to get a bit more breathing room than that.  That said, it's very low but livable.
27-12-2018 22:02:13 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Hey, I might get some more upgrades after the quest.
27-12-2018 22:02:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah, but nothing creative!
27-12-2018 22:03:02 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: But for now I wanna also keep some mana in reserve to deal with the bugs. I'm sure you understand why, given how they almost kidnapped you!
27-12-2018 22:03:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: hey, you'd still have up to fifty even if it came out to spending sixty.
27-12-2018 22:04:34 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Getting gear upgrades could be interesting, but most of the obvious stuff that could get upgraded we don't really need, and for the other stuff we aren't sure yet if Saeko's strengthening works for it.
27-12-2018 22:05:17 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Like I said, we'll need that money for some things down the line, we're not quite ready yet to go sleep on top of our hoard like a dragon.
27-12-2018 22:05:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: no super senses, no combination spells.
27-12-2018 22:06:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You have a dragon's hoard though.
27-12-2018 22:06:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'd bet if we paired up to cast strengthen and sharpen, you'll have a hell of a weapon at much easier than either of us trying it alone.
27-12-2018 22:07:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: So what's the plans for the remaining 1800 gold?
27-12-2018 22:07:24 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Thing is, do we really need an uber melee weapon?
27-12-2018 22:07:40 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: We have several d8 melee weapons and a magical sword.
27-12-2018 22:07:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'm sure diamond and strengthen could do the same for armour.
27-12-2018 22:08:10 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: For armor, boosting it to d10 means ecalir can't actually wear it unless we get him a +2 end.
27-12-2018 22:08:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah he can.  I'm wearing d4 armour that is d6 effective.
27-12-2018 22:09:06 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Ah, right, you could do that. Hmm, in that case we can consider that for after the bug quest.
27-12-2018 22:10:32 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: As for super senses, it could be interesting if it's permanent. But I'm still uneasy about things like super hearing without the obvious downsides being adressed.
27-12-2018 22:10:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Sounds to me like you'd rather do things the brute force way instead of the smart way, because you know you can browbeat me into not taking my fair share.  ;-p
27-12-2018 22:11:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: (3 words are pretty good.)
27-12-2018 22:11:12 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Like, if pw said he'll never bring it up, that's fine, but if he suddenly realizes it then we might get a case of noise induced deafness in the middle of combat.
27-12-2018 22:11:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Well, Saeko would know how ears work.
27-12-2018 22:11:29 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Hey, I think this was a fair deal, everyone involved comes out ahead.
27-12-2018 22:11:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: or you could ask for a temp buff to try it out.
27-12-2018 22:12:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'd charge you cost +1 +10 gold for a quick d4.
27-12-2018 22:12:22 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Dunno, in pw games straight stat upgrades are often a good bet.
27-12-2018 22:12:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Nah, just say cost +1.
27-12-2018 22:12:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: or cost +25 gold.
27-12-2018 22:12:55 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: As for our plans with our hoard, there's several.
27-12-2018 22:13:17 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Like finding that airship from the rumors section and making a sweet flying mansion.
27-12-2018 22:14:05 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: If we ever get around to that, Saeko can come chill in our skypool if she wants to :p
27-12-2018 22:14:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I prefer my flying creatures to be alive.
27-12-2018 22:14:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I doubt the bird would fit.  ;-p
27-12-2018 22:15:14 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: It can coast along with wings lazily swept open, I'm sure.
27-12-2018 22:15:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: better make sure it's an airship and not an airplane, then.  ;-p
27-12-2018 22:16:22 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Posted, wanna look it over real quick to make sure there's no discrepancies?
27-12-2018 22:17:28 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Just edited wording a little, fyi.
27-12-2018 22:17:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Add 'In that order' to End and Speed.
27-12-2018 22:17:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: in case there are bad critfails or side effects.
27-12-2018 22:18:08 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Sure.
27-12-2018 22:18:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Do you want me to put on an ablative temp buff before casting the d12s?
27-12-2018 22:18:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It'll add more cost, but it'll be safer.
27-12-2018 22:18:43 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: How does that work exactly?
27-12-2018 22:19:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Essentially, the temp buff vanishes instead of it making you weaker.
27-12-2018 22:19:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That said, I should reconfirm that with PW.
27-12-2018 22:19:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: so I'll just issue normal orders now.
27-12-2018 22:20:18 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Yeah, check with pw first to make sure we're not throwing away mana for nothing.
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27-12-2018 22:25:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: PW never got back to me about those mind-control orders, either.
27-12-2018 22:25:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Annoying, I wanted to know if I could do what I was trying to do.
27-12-2018 22:25:25 -!- ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com has quit [Client Quit]
27-12-2018 22:25:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Anyway, thanks for the discussion, RC.
27-12-2018 22:25:42 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: The pleasure was all mine.
27-12-2018 22:25:52 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: He just didn't respond to the pm?
27-12-2018 22:26:04 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Might be too busy or didn't notice it.
27-12-2018 22:27:19 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: I'll admit I'll feel safer taking on the bugmen while wearing better armor and being able to shoot them better if they menace at me too much.
27-12-2018 22:30:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: didn't respond.
27-12-2018 22:30:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: (I am feeling a bit screwed, though.  But in the end, it's a game.)
27-12-2018 22:30:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: (Saeko gets to scar herself horribly, for 10 mana.)  ;-p
27-12-2018 22:31:10 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: You're coming out ahead with the potential to earn more in the future. Worse deals have been struck.
27-12-2018 22:32:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'm selling my body for about half the usual rate to some people who don't really need my help.  And in the future, I get the opportunity to do the same again, for even less pay!
27-12-2018 22:32:33 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: You're a glass half empty person, aren't ya? :p
27-12-2018 22:33:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I was hoping for more than the baseline pay of five mana a spell when dealing with spells that are strong enough to deal physical wounds, yes.
27-12-2018 22:33:46 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: And hey, Saeko gets to bask in the hypermasculine glory that is Ecalir, plenty of women would sell their body just for that!
27-12-2018 22:33:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Words count, but next time you won't have them.
27-12-2018 22:34:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Bah, all Eclair needs is a good solid debuff.
27-12-2018 22:34:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: and heck, the usual rate is about five mana and money.
27-12-2018 22:34:47 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Are you coming on to him? ~
27-12-2018 22:35:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That might be a fun encounter, if literal magic gets involved.  I'm sure he wouldn't mind a reverse grow spell in a few places.  ;-p
27-12-2018 22:35:37 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Hey now, you're forgetting the part where a bunch of chumps are gonna go clean up the mess you left behind for chump change!
27-12-2018 22:35:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I didn't have thousands of gold to spend on that.
27-12-2018 22:35:52 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: We might end up as bug food!
27-12-2018 22:35:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: And apparently neither do you.
27-12-2018 22:37:07 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: It's not like we're dangling our bags of money in front of Saeko here.
27-12-2018 22:37:14 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: I mean, why would we?
27-12-2018 22:37:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You did just admit you have a super-rare magical artifact.
27-12-2018 22:37:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: And asked for fifty mana worth of spells.
27-12-2018 22:38:03 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: In an attempt to help you, yes. Speaking off, interested in that?
27-12-2018 22:38:30 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Not sure how it'd work underwater, but I think it ought to?
27-12-2018 22:38:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: in what?
27-12-2018 22:38:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'd check it to see if it shows anything first.
27-12-2018 22:38:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I wouldn't count on it working otherwise.
27-12-2018 22:39:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: and I really want to get some solid info other than 'it's down there.'  I mean, teleporting yourself to the bottom of a lake is a bad thing.
27-12-2018 22:39:56 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: I meant swimming there and teleporting out again.
27-12-2018 22:40:03 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Not teleporting in.
27-12-2018 22:40:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Ahh.  Yeah, that seems likely.
27-12-2018 22:40:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: but I don't know how to get there in the first place, or what the conditions might be.
27-12-2018 22:40:25 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Gets around the problem of only having a few sets of diving gear.
27-12-2018 22:40:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'll think about that if you get back before the end of the month.
27-12-2018 22:40:48 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Sure, though I suspect it's gonna take a while to deal with the bugmen.
27-12-2018 22:40:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: (I'd still rather borrow your vacuum word for making air pills.)
27-12-2018 22:41:47 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: I don't think borrowing words is a thing.
27-12-2018 22:41:54 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Being a different type of mage and all.
27-12-2018 22:42:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I wouldn't borrow it.  I'd borrow you to cast the spell to make the first few.
27-12-2018 22:42:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I can then use strengthen and expand to make a sufficient quantity.
27-12-2018 22:42:41 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Ah. And what, exactly, would you want those pills to do?
27-12-2018 22:42:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: They'd be more like throat lozenges that produce air.
27-12-2018 22:43:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: so you can breathe while underwater.
27-12-2018 22:44:04 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: From vacuum? That seems like a bit of a stretch.
27-12-2018 22:44:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: reverse vacuum.
27-12-2018 22:44:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'd probably have to strengthen them to make them usable.
27-12-2018 22:44:52 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Giving you gills with viscera seems more likely.
27-12-2018 22:45:18 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Again, just reversing the meaning of something seems like a stretch.
27-12-2018 22:45:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You can do that, yes.
27-12-2018 22:45:38 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Might be doable but should be really hard, otherwise every word is actually two words.
27-12-2018 22:46:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's not a might be.  That I have had mentioned as usable explicitly.
27-12-2018 22:46:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's not as good as the other word, but it works.
27-12-2018 22:46:53 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: And besides, the reverse of vacuum isn't just breathable air by definition.
27-12-2018 22:47:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: No, but you can direct the exact meaning of the words a lot.  Cabal is generous that way.
27-12-2018 22:47:35 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Though it's something of a colloquial definition anyway.
27-12-2018 22:47:37 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Yeah.
27-12-2018 22:47:49 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: I could make you a vacuum with my word!
27-12-2018 22:47:56 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Never have a dusty giant bird again!
27-12-2018 22:48:07 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Just vacuum it down and presto!
27-12-2018 22:48:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'm pretty sure directing reverse vacuum to mean 'air' is possible.
27-12-2018 22:49:57 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: I could see pw allowing it.
27-12-2018 22:50:25 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: But doing so as the effect of a pill and it working as intended sounds like it should be a difficult spell.
27-12-2018 22:51:11 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: d8 will ain't too shabby though for summoning.
27-12-2018 22:51:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Possibly.  I bet he'd allow it, though.
27-12-2018 22:51:28 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: You could look into it, if you want me to try it.
27-12-2018 22:51:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I don't know if it's summoning.  I'd have empty lozonges made up and use an enchantment.
27-12-2018 22:51:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That should make it easier.
27-12-2018 22:52:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: http://loweringthebar.net/2012/08/selling-a-counterfeiting-machine.html
27-12-2018 22:53:26 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: (then watch me use 'sense' to just make it seem like they do that instead)
27-12-2018 22:54:51 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Also wow that link.
27-12-2018 22:54:54 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Just wow.
27-12-2018 22:56:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'm also sad because this means Eclair won't be getting kitty ears to go with his manly physique.  ;-p
27-12-2018 22:57:27 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Maybe later friend, maybe later.
27-12-2018 22:57:47 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Bugs first, kawaii neko ears second.
27-12-2018 22:59:49 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: So, we know they are related to a guy famous for his summoning that was big in the olden days.
27-12-2018 23:00:07 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Is it him still, or perhaps a disciple?
27-12-2018 23:00:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Who knows?
27-12-2018 23:00:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Your job, that.
27-12-2018 23:00:42 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Or maybe the summons outlived him? But then why did the kidnappings start only recently?
27-12-2018 23:00:57 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: I think 'charity work' is more appropriate here :p
27-12-2018 23:01:15 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: 35 gold. Doesn't even cover our travel expenses!
27-12-2018 23:01:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Also, you moved from 30 mana for +2 endurance, and four mana, to ten mana alone.
27-12-2018 23:02:59 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Hey, that's what you wanted.
27-12-2018 23:03:40 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: That 30 mana for +2 would have lowered the risk for me, not getting that +2 means a higher chance you accidentally debuff me to hell and back.
27-12-2018 23:04:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You coulda had that, if you offered some actual profit.
27-12-2018 23:04:32 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: And increase the costs even more? I ain't made of mana you know!
27-12-2018 23:04:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah you are.
27-12-2018 23:04:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: ;-p
27-12-2018 23:04:55 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Outfitting the skyblimp is gonna cost a ton!
27-12-2018 23:05:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Whatever.  It's fine, but now I know that you won't pay for anything.
27-12-2018 23:05:44 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: You think getting a jacuzi at 4 km in the air is cheap?!
27-12-2018 23:06:41 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: I think that is not a fair analysis of this deal, but in the end you are free to think that.
27-12-2018 23:06:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's okay.
27-12-2018 23:07:15 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: But if you ever find offers that have a higher payout to turn ratio, do let me know.
27-12-2018 23:07:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I got 20 mana from spending a week collecting from the general population.
27-12-2018 23:08:46 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: And how often can you do that?
27-12-2018 23:09:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: not often enough.
27-12-2018 23:10:31 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: And how often do two handsome devils come along to fix your messes for what amounts to a thank you and a ham sandwich?
27-12-2018 23:11:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Ahh, I was just hoping that you'd help fix one of my problems, be it lack of money or mana.
27-12-2018 23:11:50 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: What about lack of bugmen corpses? :p
27-12-2018 23:12:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: the prize isn't for corpses.
27-12-2018 23:13:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'd come along but I don't have the time.
27-12-2018 23:13:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Bet I'm going to roll well and you get two buff spells for like 15 mana now.  ;-p
27-12-2018 23:15:55 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: In which case, hey, more left for later purchases.
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27-12-2018 23:38:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: we need to tie MJ down sometime so that we can continue watching attack on titan
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27-12-2018 23:39:22 < [1]Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Oh hey ER is back.
27-12-2018 23:39:26 < [1]Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Ready for round 2?
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27-12-2018 23:46:38 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: Well, guess I'm off as well then.
27-12-2018 23:46:49 < Radio_Controlled!Radio_Cont@109.131.hu.ht: G'night dweebs!
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