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23-12-2018 01:47:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:otln:gliw:hzir:gypr:jtml: Yo.
23-12-2018 01:47:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hey
23-12-2018 01:47:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:otln:gliw:hzir:gypr:jtml: Eternal darkness?
23-12-2018 01:47:37 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah.
23-12-2018 01:47:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you know it?
23-12-2018 01:48:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:otln:gliw:hzir:gypr:jtml: Nope.
23-12-2018 01:49:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it was a gamecube horror game
23-12-2018 01:50:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: has you play as a bunch of different characters in different time periods.
23-12-2018 01:50:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:otln:gliw:hzir:gypr:jtml: Ahh.
23-12-2018 01:50:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:otln:gliw:hzir:gypr:jtml: what brought that on?
23-12-2018 01:50:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:otln:gliw:hzir:gypr:jtml: dridergame?
23-12-2018 01:50:37 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah
23-12-2018 01:51:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:otln:gliw:hzir:gypr:jtml: Could be.
23-12-2018 01:51:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "could be"? I mean, it just is.
23-12-2018 01:51:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:otln:gliw:hzir:gypr:jtml: TBH, I'm planning on just playing the dungeon straight.  We might be being tricked here, but there could always be another layer of tricks beyond that.
23-12-2018 01:51:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: What do you think the Tome of Eternal Darkness is from? :P
23-12-2018 01:51:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:otln:gliw:hzir:gypr:jtml: So just take things as they are, concentrate on the goal, and simplify stuff.
23-12-2018 01:52:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:otln:gliw:hzir:gypr:jtml: Lots of stuff?
23-12-2018 01:58:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:otln:gliw:hzir:gypr:jtml: I suspect I would have won Spelunky by now if I'd just went for the ending instead of trying to accumulate all the crap.
23-12-2018 01:58:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I still want to get to the golden city.
23-12-2018 01:59:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I don't think you get much for it other than a potential to gain loads of money, but it's the challenge getting there that's interesting.
23-12-2018 02:01:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:otln:gliw:hzir:gypr:jtml: name of the game.
23-12-2018 02:08:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:otln:gliw:hzir:gypr:jtml: did manage to cash in a skull.
23-12-2018 02:08:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@2001:569:facb:otln:gliw:hzir:gypr:jtml: paid 30,000
23-12-2018 02:09:07 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nice
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23-12-2018 04:37:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: kill six billion demons still has six billion to go.
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23-12-2018 04:45:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Huh.
23-12-2018 04:45:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: apparently the ghost makes gems bigger.
23-12-2018 04:45:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: heya syv.
23-12-2018 04:45:13 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh yeah
23-12-2018 04:45:14 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: heya syv.
23-12-2018 04:45:19 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Wait.
23-12-2018 04:45:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I hope we can get orders from Twin or Nak in Pumsy's.
23-12-2018 04:45:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: if the ghost moves through any gem it turns into a diamond.
23-12-2018 04:45:43 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah.  Both of them are pretty unreliable, though.
23-12-2018 04:46:11 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ER can still submit orders for Mina, if necessary, though I'd be pretty surprised if he went with anything aside from the obvious.
23-12-2018 04:46:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Tempted to toss some temp orders in, but I'm giving them a chance to show up for now.
23-12-2018 04:46:57 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I sent them a PM, so maybe that'll prompt a response.
23-12-2018 04:47:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Twin's been on the forums for most of the last week.  Nak's been mostly absent.
23-12-2018 04:47:47 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh yeah, I had her toss the halberd, so she doesn't have it now. :P
23-12-2018 04:47:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: How far away is that?
23-12-2018 04:48:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: It's kinda bad that the only one with a ranged attack is out of comission.
23-12-2018 04:49:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It was embedded in the wall maybe four feet away.
23-12-2018 04:49:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: not far, then
23-12-2018 04:50:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: probably need CC to yank it out of the wall, though.
23-12-2018 04:50:39 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah.
23-12-2018 04:51:10 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Y'all should get some guns, so that you always have ranged attacks available.
23-12-2018 04:51:21 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Also, from last turn I assumed that the claysphereman's tie was actually at the center of its bodymass, but the most recent description says it's just at the front.
23-12-2018 04:51:37 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: If it were at the center, would it be visible?
23-12-2018 04:51:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: From Mina's perspective? Yes.
23-12-2018 04:52:06 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's in the center of the front.  And out her SS' range.
23-12-2018 04:52:56 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Anyway, are either of you interested in watching a blind DaS stream?
23-12-2018 04:53:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah
23-12-2018 04:53:17 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Didn't you say you'd be unable? :P
23-12-2018 04:53:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: just... gotta.. get up in the morning tomorrow, but I can watch a while, sure. :V
23-12-2018 04:53:57 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: www.twitch.tv/syvarrisvutheniama/
23-12-2018 04:54:00 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Should be up.
23-12-2018 04:54:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: dark!
23-12-2018 04:54:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'm assuming the obvious move is to help Tooru in some way.
23-12-2018 04:54:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I was planning on getting some degree of manabolt or a gun, syv.  Maybe both.
23-12-2018 04:55:07 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Uhh.
23-12-2018 04:55:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Eh, could Alida pull it out of the wall.
23-12-2018 04:55:23 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh, duh.
23-12-2018 04:55:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Stream shows as offline.
23-12-2018 04:55:36 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: So I was very confused there because I had my stream open.
23-12-2018 04:56:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: up now.
23-12-2018 04:56:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Warrior.
23-12-2018 04:56:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: What is up with the body thing?
23-12-2018 04:56:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: First person mod?
23-12-2018 04:57:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Welcome to my world, syv.
23-12-2018 04:58:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's aight.
23-12-2018 04:58:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: consider it payback for an hour spent blathering about werewolves.
23-12-2018 04:59:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Wow, that's a sad torch.
23-12-2018 04:59:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: alright, I'm watching
23-12-2018 04:59:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: 'see' ghosts.
23-12-2018 05:00:35 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: rip
23-12-2018 05:00:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: good start, that.
23-12-2018 05:00:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Should have blue on the loading screen.
23-12-2018 05:00:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: because this is an ill-concieved venture.
23-12-2018 05:01:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: they all represent that though
23-12-2018 05:01:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: blue is just the most obvious
23-12-2018 05:01:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Everyone but pink.
23-12-2018 05:03:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: pink has made many mistakes in many timelines
23-12-2018 05:04:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: as I said, welcome to my world, syv.
23-12-2018 05:05:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I can imagine the panic is someone invades you~
23-12-2018 05:06:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I got invaded yesterday!
23-12-2018 05:07:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well that seems terrifying
23-12-2018 05:08:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: bestoc
23-12-2018 05:09:13 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the game sound is very faint
23-12-2018 05:11:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hah, agression works on friendly NPCs?
23-12-2018 05:11:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: 'friendly.'
23-12-2018 05:12:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: syv getting lost yet?
23-12-2018 05:13:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: cheating hotkeys, or required to run the mods yet?
23-12-2018 05:15:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: hacked camera angles need to be reset.
23-12-2018 05:15:53 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: 2hr2 for the estoc is also a stab
23-12-2018 05:17:21 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: think the drake squished one of them
23-12-2018 05:18:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: What's the Vit for anyway?
23-12-2018 05:18:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...for health?
23-12-2018 05:18:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: don't kill the merchant by accident like I did.
23-12-2018 05:18:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: fewer enemies to murder.  ;-p
23-12-2018 05:20:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's okay if it's short, you can't see long enough to use a big weapon, anyway.
23-12-2018 05:25:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: be glad it isn't actually first person for rolling.
23-12-2018 05:27:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: ahh, the fear, the fear.
23-12-2018 05:27:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: go murder that black knight.
23-12-2018 05:28:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: do not
23-12-2018 05:28:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: aww.
23-12-2018 05:28:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the drake is a good boy
23-12-2018 05:28:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: you seen that latest xkcd, syv?
23-12-2018 05:28:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: about cats?
23-12-2018 05:28:41 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: who kills everything so you don't have to4
23-12-2018 05:29:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I like how you can see the arrows stuck in your body.
23-12-2018 05:30:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: (I am disappointed that resin doesn't fill the screen with flashing lights.  Not quite my world, then.)
23-12-2018 05:34:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: not as much need for lockons with this camera angle.
23-12-2018 05:37:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: "Give me your sword."  "No, stop stabbing me with it."
23-12-2018 05:38:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the buckler guys are annoying
23-12-2018 05:39:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: they have a LOT of deflection for using a light shield
23-12-2018 05:40:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: what was a horrible idea?  The tactical mistake or this mod combo in general?
23-12-2018 05:41:00 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yes
23-12-2018 05:43:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: embered fire.  If someone +1s the bonfire you're at, you full heal, right?
23-12-2018 05:44:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no, you gain 1 estus use
23-12-2018 05:45:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Oh.
23-12-2018 05:45:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's fine if you backstab, syv.
23-12-2018 05:45:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: not too disorienting.
23-12-2018 05:46:42 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that high value ring of sacrifice :P
23-12-2018 05:47:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: assuming you can find your souls.
23-12-2018 05:47:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: np, syv.  see ya.
23-12-2018 05:48:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: https://www.prequeladventure.com/this/story2128.gif
23-12-2018 05:48:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Ahh, all is right with the world.
23-12-2018 05:50:01 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Did Preq update?
23-12-2018 05:50:11 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Nothing is happening, so I can start it back up.
23-12-2018 05:50:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nope
23-12-2018 05:50:38 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I have to check the sky every hour, more if there's anything, but there's literally not a single cloud in the sky.
23-12-2018 05:53:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yow.
23-12-2018 05:53:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That normal?
23-12-2018 05:53:35 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: inb4 you get his shield
23-12-2018 05:54:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: didn't get your souls?
23-12-2018 05:59:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: looks like their blockade worked fine.
23-12-2018 06:00:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: gangbanged ther.e
23-12-2018 06:02:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: the greataxe?
23-12-2018 06:02:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: good axe after all.
23-12-2018 06:03:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: "It is dark here.  You are likely to be eaten by a grue."
23-12-2018 06:03:47 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: n i c e
23-12-2018 06:04:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the madoka loading screen gets me every time
23-12-2018 06:04:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: darkroot dark.
23-12-2018 06:05:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: darkroot dark
23-12-2018 06:05:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: dark darkroot
23-12-2018 06:06:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's literally all dark, isn' it?
23-12-2018 06:06:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: does this place even have a skybox?
23-12-2018 06:07:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: wolfie!
23-12-2018 06:09:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Heh.
23-12-2018 06:09:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It could be worse.
23-12-2018 06:09:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: could be non euclidian.
23-12-2018 06:11:58 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: this fight looks almost astral
23-12-2018 06:12:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Should have an all-black dungeon in Pumsys.  ;-p
23-12-2018 06:14:37 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: flashlights wouldn't help if everything is totally black
23-12-2018 06:14:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Well, you could see the glows from the other magical girls.
23-12-2018 06:14:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: and stuff you bring into it may not be totally black.
23-12-2018 06:16:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: :D
23-12-2018 06:16:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: "Oh god, I don't have any.."
23-12-2018 06:16:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Did you lose your sacrifice ring?
23-12-2018 06:20:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: What's the wolf ring do again?
23-12-2018 06:20:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: poise
23-12-2018 06:21:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: which is the ability to have your animations uniterrupted, right?
23-12-2018 06:22:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hyper armor :P
23-12-2018 06:24:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: gotta sleep, have fun
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23-12-2018 06:25:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: didn't you get the wolf ring?
23-12-2018 06:25:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You mean some other ring?
23-12-2018 06:29:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's half-bright here.
23-12-2018 06:30:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I suppose that's everywhere fater darkroot.
23-12-2018 06:30:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Decided on a regular weapon yet?
23-12-2018 06:32:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Eh.
23-12-2018 06:35:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Best weapon?
23-12-2018 06:35:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: ok.
23-12-2018 06:36:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: apparently doing double damage helps a lot.
23-12-2018 06:37:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Doom doom doom.
23-12-2018 06:39:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: "You know what's good about this giant halberd?  It makes a good off-hand weapon."
23-12-2018 06:42:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: triple hits?
23-12-2018 06:44:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Get invaded!
23-12-2018 06:44:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Get invaded!
23-12-2018 06:45:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You'll also be one of the luckiest targets possible.  ;-p
23-12-2018 06:47:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: ahh.
23-12-2018 06:47:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: The halberd has feet of clay.
23-12-2018 06:47:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I meant luckiest as in 'easiest for your skill'
23-12-2018 06:48:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Never be at a worse disadvantage.
23-12-2018 06:48:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: stream dropped.
23-12-2018 06:49:59 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I turned it off  ecause I left.  Have to leave at every :47.
23-12-2018 06:50:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Roger.
23-12-2018 06:50:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: More multiplayer than I was expecting.
23-12-2018 06:53:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Too much axe.
23-12-2018 06:53:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's not that big of a deal.
23-12-2018 06:53:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: if you don't get invaded, that is.
23-12-2018 06:53:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: The proper edition.  ;-p
23-12-2018 06:53:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah, splitting the playerbase is bad.
23-12-2018 06:56:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You know, what would a pyromancer run like this have looked like?
23-12-2018 06:58:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: nnneyeh, sounds about right.
23-12-2018 07:00:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Easy part hard, hard part easy.  ;-p
23-12-2018 07:00:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: but you're not me.
23-12-2018 07:02:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: slashy slash.
23-12-2018 07:02:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Oswald?
23-12-2018 07:03:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: What do you have against the Penguin?
23-12-2018 07:03:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I know not for NPCs.
23-12-2018 07:04:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah, don't forget those.
23-12-2018 07:07:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Much better doing 100 damage at a time instead of what, 19?
23-12-2018 07:08:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yes.
23-12-2018 07:08:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Oswald Cobblepot.
23-12-2018 07:09:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Also why they named Littlefinger's three knights that in A Song of Ice and Fire.
23-12-2018 07:09:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Well, "Kettleblack", but yeah.
23-12-2018 07:11:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: 'so well'
23-12-2018 07:11:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: that's how things go.
23-12-2018 07:12:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I thought they'd just have different stats.
23-12-2018 07:15:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Only took me three tries..
23-12-2018 07:15:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: can't be that hard.
23-12-2018 07:18:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: stabbies.
23-12-2018 07:18:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I did, but I couldn't use it, the glow was too annoying.
23-12-2018 07:19:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Weren't you watching me do Capra?
23-12-2018 07:20:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yes.  'one'
23-12-2018 07:21:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: woof
23-12-2018 07:23:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: They normally can't.
23-12-2018 07:23:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: but on occasion they clip up those stairs.
23-12-2018 07:28:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: wondefully useful.
23-12-2018 07:28:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I hope that didn't cost too many souls.
23-12-2018 07:32:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: who are those d-bags?
23-12-2018 07:32:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: you have firebombs, right?
23-12-2018 07:33:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: winged spear.
23-12-2018 07:33:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: you wanted one dex for that spear.
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23-12-2018 07:40:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Thanks, syv.
23-12-2018 07:40:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: catch you later.
23-12-2018 07:40:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Heya Leodanny.
23-12-2018 07:40:46 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Just missed a blind dark souls run.
23-12-2018 07:41:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Not blind in the conventional sense.
23-12-2018 07:41:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: the opposite of that, really.
23-12-2018 07:41:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: blind as in 'everything is like the Tomb of the Giants'
23-12-2018 07:41:23 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Iiterally blind, when I've memorized the whole game.
23-12-2018 07:42:08 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I decided against leveling dex for the spear because I've been using the longsword/axe combo, which is really just better.  At least for now.
23-12-2018 07:42:27 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Maybe when I get a truly long spear, like the SKS, I'll switch up again.
23-12-2018 07:42:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: np.
23-12-2018 07:43:04 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh, do you want to see more of that run?  or should I just do the rest on my own time, as a standard challenge run?
23-12-2018 07:43:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I wouldn't mind seeing more of it, but it's not a serious matter of urgency for me.
23-12-2018 07:44:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: If you want to play it, play it.
23-12-2018 07:44:44 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I think the Depths should be fun, so I'll save that for a stream.
23-12-2018 07:45:08 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And by fun, I mean it'll be full of me getting hopelessly lost and attacked by things at random, constantly.
23-12-2018 07:45:19 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Because the Depths is a *maze*
23-12-2018 07:45:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You'll still get less lost than I did.
23-12-2018 07:45:45 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'm not sure.
23-12-2018 07:46:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I remember you screaming at me, because of how lost I was.
23-12-2018 07:46:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: My mental map of the Depths is one of my worst, only beaten by Blight Town, which will be so much worse.
23-12-2018 07:46:19 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I usually skip both.
23-12-2018 07:46:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Heh
23-12-2018 07:46:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: BT will be nasty
23-12-2018 07:46:47 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Shieldless, too...
23-12-2018 07:47:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: blowguns
23-12-2018 07:48:27 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: :(
23-12-2018 07:48:38 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: At least they'll be somewhat visible.
23-12-2018 07:49:06 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You can see arrows fine in TotG, and it's the same effect, so they should be trackable by the darts.
23-12-2018 07:49:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: hopefully.
23-12-2018 07:49:44 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Seriously though, I think I'll do catacombs first.
23-12-2018 07:49:51 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Kindling, levels, and it's easier.
23-12-2018 07:51:36 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Also, great scythe.  <3 GS.
23-12-2018 07:52:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Mmm.
23-12-2018 07:52:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Bad scythe.
23-12-2018 07:53:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: How would you grade a scythe as a totem weapon?
23-12-2018 07:53:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: What's so good about the GS?
23-12-2018 07:54:08 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Fairly poor.  If it's the realistic version, it would be more effective, 'specially since I like polearms, and mobility means range is trivial to control.
23-12-2018 07:55:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Okay.  So bad but better than that club.
23-12-2018 07:57:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah.  If it's the unrealistic version, it'll hurt because it'll be handled more realistically.  Maybe better than the club, but only in limited circumstances, and bad rolls would be even worse.  An L-shaped scythe would get disarmed by pure accident.
23-12-2018 07:57:58 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It'd also only be better due to reach, and if the user has generally good rolls.
23-12-2018 07:58:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: okay.
23-12-2018 07:59:44 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: The GS in DaS is amazing because it has phenomenal reach, a phenomenal moveset, and phenomenal damage.  Only flaws are that it has stumble frames and low poise damage... but those don't even balance it.  It's A+ tier in PvP, and possibly the best stumble weapon in PvP.
23-12-2018 08:00:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: what are stumble frames?
23-12-2018 08:00:50 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's longer than most spears, its R1s have decent speed, its R2s have massively sweeping areas of damage, and best of all, its running R1 is sbout as fast as *dagger* r1s.
23-12-2018 08:01:11 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Stumble frames are where your char stumbles for a half second or so after missing an attack.
23-12-2018 08:03:00 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: All halberds and axes have them.  They're pretty easy to punish with a backstab in PvP (and you miss a lot in PvP), which is why axes and halberds are almost never used.  There's a couple exceptions due to otherwise great traits, like the Black Knight Greataxe (sheer damage and speed), and the Great Scythe (range and speed), but most of the rest of those classes are considered absolute junk.
23-12-2018 08:04:14 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...I also might be wrong on the BKGA having stumble frames.  The basic GA doesn't, pretty sure, and is in the same class.
23-12-2018 08:05:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Hmm.
23-12-2018 08:05:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: you know, we never played any Allegiance.
23-12-2018 08:07:03 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Nope.
23-12-2018 08:07:21 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I don't think ER had much interest.
23-12-2018 08:07:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: If you can rope him into it, though, I'm still up for trying it out again.
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23-12-2018 08:09:19 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: haha never mind I can't sleep
23-12-2018 08:10:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I finished already.  :(
23-12-2018 08:10:21 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yup
23-12-2018 08:13:04 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You still interested in trying A leg at some point?
23-12-2018 08:13:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: prolly not
23-12-2018 08:15:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Rofl.
23-12-2018 08:16:19 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Such a belated period for an extreme statement.
23-12-2018 08:16:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I have all three artifacts and just killed a mummy for a sceptre.
23-12-2018 08:16:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I guess that means ER is the only person in our little group to never even try A leg.
23-12-2018 08:16:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I might get through that gold door.
23-12-2018 08:17:03 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well, have fun
23-12-2018 08:18:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: And.. I'm in.
23-12-2018 08:19:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: congrats. everything is made of gold
23-12-2018 08:23:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Well, dead.  New high score, 195000 gold.
23-12-2018 08:23:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: ..although it says I only have 151k, because I died with 40k gold counting up.
23-12-2018 08:25:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, that's a lot of gold
23-12-2018 08:26:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: There's normal treasure as well as the gold walls.
23-12-2018 08:27:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: and a giant gold statue.
23-12-2018 08:47:42 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, I'm hungry. that probably shouldn't surprise me because I haven't been eating very much. So I guess I'll eat something.
23-12-2018 08:49:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4e/2a/19/4e2a19eb119d40a174b2798b79952005.jpg
23-12-2018 08:50:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...I should eat too.
23-12-2018 08:50:59 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Too much caffeine, don't feel hungry at despite barely eating today.
23-12-2018 08:51:14 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, fuck Pinterest.
23-12-2018 08:51:24 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Sideways, with a rusty pitchfork.
23-12-2018 08:54:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yes, which is why I linked only the image.
23-12-2018 08:58:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'm not linking to a post.
23-12-2018 09:00:31 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Eh.  I saw the site, I was filled wirh hate.
23-12-2018 09:00:38 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Not blaming you.
23-12-2018 09:05:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also there's a lot of cookies lying around unguarded, so I've been eating things but not much real food :P
23-12-2018 09:06:19 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I wouldn't mind having some cookies.  Wanna share?
23-12-2018 09:06:41 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: would if I could, man
23-12-2018 09:12:37 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Aww
23-12-2018 09:13:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: tele-cookies.
23-12-2018 09:13:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: CoIP
23-12-2018 09:14:01 -!- a!a@2601:240:4b80:mkvi:qmlg:ggwx:otgt:roiu has quit [Quit: a]
23-12-2018 09:16:05 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Aww, man, if only CoIP were a thing.  The "Have a cookie" thing would *actually get cookies*!
23-12-2018 09:16:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yes.
23-12-2018 09:16:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Don't worry.  In the future you can have plastic cookies.
23-12-2018 09:18:14 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hmm.  If people 3d printed cookies for you, that could become a problem.
23-12-2018 09:18:21 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Well, not you, but someone.
23-12-2018 09:18:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: They don't work anyway.
23-12-2018 09:18:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Just terribly useless toys.
23-12-2018 09:18:50 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ?
23-12-2018 09:18:56 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: 3d printers?
23-12-2018 09:20:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.  Very slow, very power intensive, very finicky, and batch manufacturing only.
23-12-2018 09:21:53 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Good for prototyping, though.
23-12-2018 09:22:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Lousy for prototyping.
23-12-2018 09:22:10 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Fast and cheap for some things too.
23-12-2018 09:23:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: people just want their fucking star trek duplicators already
23-12-2018 09:23:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Assuming 'cheap' doesn't include energy.
23-12-2018 09:23:32 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It generally doesn't.
23-12-2018 09:24:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: The guy I used to work for gave up on it at last, and started paying a local machining firm to just make his damn custom valves.  Takes a quarter the time, and the per-piece price is higher, but only if you don't include the hours spent tinkering with it.
23-12-2018 09:26:40 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I know a guy who has one, which he got after working with one on an engineering job.  He's generally been pretty positive about it, and isn't the sort to choose an impractical solution for foolish reasons.
23-12-2018 09:26:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Spent quite a load of money and time trying to make it do something it wasn't suitable for.
23-12-2018 09:27:11 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Admittedly, haven't talked about it much, and don't talk to him often.  Could be wrong.
23-12-2018 09:27:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Then he doesn't use it for the wrong things.
23-12-2018 09:27:30 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Well, yes.
23-12-2018 09:28:09 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I know he professionally had to use it for prototyping small device casings, no idea what he does with it now.
23-12-2018 09:28:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: To be fair, I've never known anyone who owns one of them to hate it, even when they're spending 12 hours playing with it and having half their attemps collapse.
23-12-2018 09:28:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That sounds about what to use it for.
23-12-2018 09:28:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: 'give me a box to put the stuff that matters in.'
23-12-2018 09:29:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Don't see why that wouldn't work, most of the time.
23-12-2018 09:29:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: using things wrong is a leading cause of doing things wrong
23-12-2018 09:29:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yup.
23-12-2018 09:39:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: So what was that dungeon game you were saying dridergame was imitating?
23-12-2018 09:40:58 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...I'm saying that the GM is blatantly referencing Eternal Darkness for the gamecube, which isn't really a game that has much to do with dungeons.
23-12-2018 09:41:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Ahh.
23-12-2018 09:41:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Anything about the plot or something that you think might be relevant, then?
23-12-2018 09:41:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: It's survival horror like resident evil or something, but with sometimes swords and magic
23-12-2018 09:41:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the plot is about a bunch of elder gods who hate each other, pretty much.
23-12-2018 09:42:53 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I've only seen an LP and it was a long time ago, but I think that the whole game is a gambit of one god to mess with the other three
23-12-2018 09:42:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Ahh, so probably relevant, but it'd be difficult to tell.
23-12-2018 09:43:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Hmm.
23-12-2018 09:43:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That might move it up to 'quite relevant' then.
23-12-2018 09:43:33 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: go watch a longplay of it or something if you really want :P
23-12-2018 09:45:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Well, as long as we make sure there isn't some kind of total devastation, we should be fine.
23-12-2018 09:45:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: maybe we can eat the power thing the other guy is retrieving.
23-12-2018 09:45:59 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well yeah, that's out whole thing, right?
23-12-2018 09:46:19 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: just frikkin eating anything that looks eldritch or powerful
23-12-2018 09:47:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Only since we consumed the 'heart of consuming eldritch things' or whatever that was.
23-12-2018 09:47:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Now it's kinda our thing.
23-12-2018 09:47:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yup
23-12-2018 09:49:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: The only thing I'm worried about that is that it seems to be addictive.
23-12-2018 09:49:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: And we're apparently now vulnerable to anti-demon spells.
23-12-2018 09:50:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it seems to be addictive because we, the players, keep doing it
23-12-2018 09:51:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I don't know.  That whole bit about 'This feels really, really, really good' sounded like addictive to me.
23-12-2018 09:52:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it would feel good if we were addicted or not~
23-12-2018 09:52:37 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: God it's cold.
23-12-2018 09:53:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I hope Alida isn't addicted after one exposure to Witch Cake.
23-12-2018 09:53:19 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: naaah, you practically live in the tropics
23-12-2018 09:53:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It would suck to have a slight increase in between-mission drain due to liking something that will never be tasted again.
23-12-2018 09:54:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: uh, depending on that witch's backstory you might be able to find it
23-12-2018 09:54:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: cause I mean, it could just literally be drugs you know?
23-12-2018 09:54:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I think Mina would have been able to see what kinda drugs it was if it was normal drugs.
23-12-2018 09:54:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I think it was Magic Drugs.
23-12-2018 09:56:04 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: She saw it as "Tastiness"
23-12-2018 09:56:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.
23-12-2018 09:56:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: On the plus side, you usually don't get addicted after one dose of anything.
23-12-2018 09:56:32 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yup
23-12-2018 09:56:42 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that's not really gonna happen
23-12-2018 09:56:58 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Usually.
23-12-2018 09:58:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's going to be Innocence to see if that happens, and a critfail means she's addicted?
23-12-2018 09:58:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: something like that?
23-12-2018 09:58:26 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Purity would be rolled for addiction.
23-12-2018 09:58:37 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Inn is for knowledge.
23-12-2018 09:59:21 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Sophia wouldn't be very vulnerable to addiction.
23-12-2018 09:59:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...what actually is the thematic tie between innocence and thinkiness?
23-12-2018 09:59:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Great.
23-12-2018 10:00:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I don't think I took Cursed Purity, but I've failed or critfailed every single purity roll so far.
23-12-2018 10:00:08 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I think I was going with "The belief you can understand and change your fate if only you analyze it enough."
23-12-2018 10:00:16 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Really though it's the Homura stat.
23-12-2018 10:00:21 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeeeah
23-12-2018 10:00:39 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Can't win em all.
23-12-2018 10:00:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Wouldn't that be Innocence by your power list?
23-12-2018 10:00:51 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Sophia doesn't have much of it because she never went to school. makes sense to me.
23-12-2018 10:01:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yup, Amateur.  Still failed them all.
23-12-2018 10:01:03 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yes, Dev.
23-12-2018 10:01:07 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: (ER) ...what actually is the thematic tie between innocence and thinkiness?
23-12-2018 10:01:09 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: (syv) I think I was going with "The belief you can understand and change your fate if only you analyze it enough."
23-12-2018 10:01:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Maybe I can get someone to help her roll with that.
23-12-2018 10:03:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'll think about that if we live through this.
23-12-2018 10:04:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'm mildly happy that there's a decent chance you won't all get through this, to be honest~
23-12-2018 10:06:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: quite decent.
23-12-2018 10:06:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'm suprised you made it out.
23-12-2018 10:06:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: me too!
23-12-2018 10:06:37 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I pretty much didn't, because I'm dumb!
23-12-2018 10:07:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: eh.
23-12-2018 10:08:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: better than doing nothing because it would be 'premature' to help the almost-dead character.
23-12-2018 10:10:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: got nothing but respect for Nak as a person, but that wasn't a smooth move.
23-12-2018 10:10:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Still, we all make boners.
23-12-2018 10:12:23 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Except the women.
23-12-2018 10:12:35 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nope, them too
23-12-2018 10:12:36 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Which, uh, is Nak, yeah?
23-12-2018 10:12:59 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I dunno!
23-12-2018 10:13:13 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's an internet person of some sort
23-12-2018 10:13:19 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: maybe a kobold
23-12-2018 10:14:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: If it matters, I think Nak's a woman.
23-12-2018 10:14:05 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I automatically assume male for most B12ers, but I'm pretty sure Nak's been referred to as female.
23-12-2018 10:14:16 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh, you only think so?
23-12-2018 10:14:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.
23-12-2018 10:14:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: if the profile doesn't say, I don't make assumptions
23-12-2018 10:14:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'm fairly certain, but you don't exactly know these things.
23-12-2018 10:15:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: because they is just such a nice word and deserves to be used~
23-12-2018 10:15:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'll ask them sometime, then.
23-12-2018 10:15:27 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Just because you said that, Dev.
23-12-2018 10:15:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I am certain Nak's only one person, though..
23-12-2018 10:15:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: so that's wrong.
23-12-2018 10:15:32 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: :)
23-12-2018 10:15:52 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: They're a plurality until they only have one gender.
23-12-2018 10:15:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: could be a bunch of goblins in a coat
23-12-2018 10:15:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Sorry.  I don't like how it's treated as not assuming something, when there are people who prefer to be refered to it that way.
23-12-2018 10:16:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: so it seems to me to be assuming something, all the same.
23-12-2018 10:16:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: What, you mean having gender be confirmed?
23-12-2018 10:16:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Assuming that 'unconfirmed' means 'whatever they means'
23-12-2018 10:17:21 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: But they're's useful.
23-12-2018 10:17:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Does it tell you anything about the person being referred to, or does it only tell you about the person using the term?
23-12-2018 10:17:47 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: they literally means unconfirmed
23-12-2018 10:18:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: To some people, at some times, yes.  But to others it means different, specific, things.
23-12-2018 10:19:00 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: If I call someone a nigger fuckwad, then that's telling you more about me than them.  It's still language, being used to convey informstion, in a useful and understandable way.
23-12-2018 10:19:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: As far as I can tell, the whole lot of it seems subjective.
23-12-2018 10:19:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.
23-12-2018 10:19:32 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: language is subjective, wow what a novel observation
23-12-2018 10:19:48 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's not really that novel.
23-12-2018 10:20:03 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's more of a book.
23-12-2018 10:20:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Heh.
23-12-2018 10:20:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.
23-12-2018 10:21:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Still, particularly these days, I like to make the distinction between specific people and the groups they belong to.  Particulary in this age of massive partisanship and self-selection.
23-12-2018 10:22:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'd rather be wrong sometimes than just treat people in such a bigoted manner.
23-12-2018 10:22:02 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's not ambiguous how we've been using it.
23-12-2018 10:22:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: They're legitimate uses of they.
23-12-2018 10:22:31 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Neutrality is bigoted?
23-12-2018 10:22:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah it is.  It's assuming a specific word can never be wrong.
23-12-2018 10:23:41 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "It" is technically never wrong
23-12-2018 10:24:01 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Problem is when you use a specific term in a way that implies confidence, such as your usage of female pronouns to refer to Nak.
23-12-2018 10:24:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Can be too.
23-12-2018 10:24:11 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It implies some level of knowledge about them.
23-12-2018 10:24:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah, and I've admitted I could have it wrong.
23-12-2018 10:24:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Have you?
23-12-2018 10:24:26 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Only now though.
23-12-2018 10:24:42 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'm generally right.
23-12-2018 10:25:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: using the word they implies that you don't know something, it's just shorter to say
23-12-2018 10:25:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Eh.  It's also something you only use when talking about other people.
23-12-2018 10:26:00 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's typically used as a word to vary your language and reduce redundancy.
23-12-2018 10:26:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: And that is a bad habit I engage in too often.
23-12-2018 10:26:50 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "Group A is bad.  They eat babies.  I've seen it, watching their teeth dig in is horrifying."
23-12-2018 10:27:21 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Vs "Group A is bad.  Group A eats babies.  I've seen it, watching Group A's teeth dig in is horrifying."
23-12-2018 10:27:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And it has the same value for individuals.
23-12-2018 10:28:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Not necessarily.
23-12-2018 10:28:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: X is a member of group A.  They eat babies.  I've seen X's teeth dig in, it's horrifying.
23-12-2018 10:32:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: And it's incredibly, incredibly common to refer to one member of a group as representative of the entire group.
23-12-2018 10:34:55 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: That's a poor use and should be rewritten.
23-12-2018 10:35:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Ok.  Now drop the 'member of group A' bit, and tell me that you can be certain 'They' refers only to X, and not the group(s) X belongs to.
23-12-2018 10:38:42 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "X eats babies; I've seen their teeth dig in, it's horrifying.  They're also a member of Group A."
23-12-2018 10:39:27 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: The way you stated it, the order implies the eating is related to Group A, even if you excluded the "they", you'd be providing that implication.
23-12-2018 10:40:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It'd be incredibly difficult to make that assumption if you use something other than they in there.
23-12-2018 10:42:27 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "Alexander is a member of the Cordonites.  He eats babies.  I've seen his teeth dig in, it's horrifying."
23-12-2018 10:42:43 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "So, uh, is the baby-eating thing related to the being-a-Cordonite thing?"
23-12-2018 10:42:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.  Even if you do that, it's clear that's not the case.
23-12-2018 10:43:06 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "What?  No!  Cordonites are mostly good people, stop judging them by their worst member!"
23-12-2018 10:43:51 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: cordonites are all demons in disguise actually
23-12-2018 10:44:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Sorry.  Maybe I just know too many racists.  They're generally prone to that usage with they.
23-12-2018 10:45:05 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's not clear.  "Alexander is a Conservative.  He's a racist.  Every day at work he complains about the degredation of our country."
23-12-2018 10:45:26 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "Hey!  Being a conservative doesn't mean you're racist!"
23-12-2018 10:45:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Also, phrase 3 doesn't have any connection with either of the other two..
23-12-2018 10:45:54 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "What?  Why would you think I meant that?  My mom's conservative, but she doesn't have a judgemental bone in her body!"
23-12-2018 10:46:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah, my mistake.  I meant invasion by mexicans or something.
23-12-2018 10:46:21 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Speed writing.
23-12-2018 10:46:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: See the point there?  If you take out the 'they', it's pretty clear you're only talking about one person.
23-12-2018 10:46:52 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's not, though.
23-12-2018 10:47:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah it is.
23-12-2018 10:47:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's also clear that you're using bad rhetoric by bringing up irrelevant points.
23-12-2018 10:47:53 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: The rebuttal could easily be "Yeah they are. Conservatives always get elected with racist rhetoric.
23-12-2018 10:47:55 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "
23-12-2018 10:49:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Which would be legitimate, and bring up some interesting lines of debate.
23-12-2018 10:49:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'm having trouble seeing it as a worse usage.
23-12-2018 10:49:37 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: These points aren't irrelevant, though.
23-12-2018 10:50:02 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's describing how you can make a statement unclear or clear with or without the use of a specific word.
23-12-2018 10:50:52 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You're saying that the word is bad to use under a certain circumstance, because it makes the information ambiguous--and I'm saying that the information can be made ambiguous--or clear--regardless of the use of the word.
23-12-2018 10:51:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: If that's true, then why should I use your desired usage then?
23-12-2018 10:51:22 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: At best, your argument stands as a reason for people who are incompetent or lazy communicators to not use the term.
23-12-2018 10:52:08 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You don't have to.  At best, it might sound more pleasing to the ear, but you could accomplish otherwise without the word.  Plus, I think the value gained would be offset by your own displeasure.
23-12-2018 10:52:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: But if others feel it's the most efficient or pleasing way to get information across, it's immature of you to judge them for it.
23-12-2018 10:53:04 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Also, you've already shown yourself to use the alternatives poorly.
23-12-2018 10:53:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Which alternatives are those?
23-12-2018 10:53:33 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I assumed Nakéen to be female, largely on your own account, assuming you to have a good reason to say that they're female.
23-12-2018 10:53:39 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: But you don't, beyond your gut.
23-12-2018 10:54:04 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You've cleared this ambiguity, but only after it was specifically brought up.
23-12-2018 10:54:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: What's wrong with being female?
23-12-2018 10:54:26 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: They could be male.
23-12-2018 10:55:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: ...so?
23-12-2018 10:55:16 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Statistically speaking, Nak's prolly male.  I agree with your gut, myself, but B12 is mostly men.
23-12-2018 10:55:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Eh.
23-12-2018 10:55:59 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You communicated information to me and accidentally relayed information you didn't intend to.  Or, you successfully relayed information in a misleading manner because you had no care for my understanding.
23-12-2018 10:56:19 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Either way, you've communicated in an undesirable fashion.
23-12-2018 10:56:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Now, can I go back to watching anime, or do you have more to argue?
23-12-2018 10:56:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...what ya watching?
23-12-2018 10:56:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I didn't accidently refer to Nak as female.  That's what I thought was the case.
23-12-2018 10:57:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: If it's wrong, than I made a mistake.
23-12-2018 10:57:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I wasn't trying to do so to fool you.
23-12-2018 10:57:30 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "Hero Mask".  A relative asked me to watch it.  Same one as asked me to watch RWBY.  This one's pretty solid though.
23-12-2018 10:57:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: If I was, I'm not sure what information is transmitted by gender.  It doesn't matter.
23-12-2018 10:58:13 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's got a lot of silliness, mostly around important people being demigods for no reason, but the plot is interesting.
23-12-2018 10:58:30 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, it's pretty.
23-12-2018 10:58:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That's what I mean about people getting mixed up with the groups they belong to.
23-12-2018 10:58:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It's pretty?
23-12-2018 10:59:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Hero mask, eh?
23-12-2018 10:59:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Is it new?
23-12-2018 10:59:06 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's well animated for the most part.
23-12-2018 10:59:11 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Netflix exclusive.
23-12-2018 10:59:35 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I don't have Netflix, but I'm apparently trusted so they gave me their login.
23-12-2018 10:59:50 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...And yes, new.
23-12-2018 11:00:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Wait, wasn't that the name of that character from OPM?
23-12-2018 11:00:55 < * syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr shrugs
23-12-2018 11:01:51 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Nobody in this show is named Snek, at least.  Everyone seems to have a full name, actually, and it's typically given promptly upon their appearance.
23-12-2018 11:02:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Snek snek?
23-12-2018 11:02:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Do they have backstories that make sense?
23-12-2018 11:03:03 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Snek!
23-12-2018 11:03:28 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Among those who've had any given, sure.  They don't waste much time on it though.
23-12-2018 11:03:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Pikasprey really got to you with those names, didn't he?
23-12-2018 11:04:12 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Eh.
23-12-2018 11:05:07 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Spatial relationships seem to be more like suggestions in thisvshow, too.  Travel is done at the speed of plot, as a rule.
23-12-2018 11:05:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I wonder if the names are that bad in the original Japanese.  (OPM)
23-12-2018 11:05:35 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Indubitably.
23-12-2018 11:05:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: space seemed to be mostly a suggestion in jrgurndder too
23-12-2018 11:06:12 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: JRM is a much worse show.
23-12-2018 11:06:37 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It has good animation, but beyond that...
23-12-2018 11:06:41 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: aw
23-12-2018 11:07:23 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I guess it has good characterization, too.  This show's chars are mostly too grounded and boring, eith a few exceptions where they're too tropey and absurd.
23-12-2018 11:07:33 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: JRM's are silly, but fun.
23-12-2018 11:09:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: JRM characters are at least memorable enough for my subconsious to pick them up and stick them in my dreams. :V
23-12-2018 11:09:30 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: !
23-12-2018 11:09:39 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: More information demanded!
23-12-2018 11:09:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: at least the main two
23-12-2018 11:09:56 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Koko and Jonah?
23-12-2018 11:10:06 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'd expect Valmet.
23-12-2018 11:10:07 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yes
23-12-2018 11:10:16 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Note: I can remember their names.
23-12-2018 11:10:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: neat
23-12-2018 11:10:43 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I honestly can't recall what this show's MC's name is, except his last name being "Blood", because that's so stupid.
23-12-2018 11:11:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: pfft
23-12-2018 11:11:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Alucard
23-12-2018 11:11:55 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Nah.
23-12-2018 11:12:21 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's James.  He just said it.
23-12-2018 11:12:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Dangnabit.
23-12-2018 11:12:31 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: He wears a stupid red jacket.
23-12-2018 11:12:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: There was a Lord Blood in Lords of Midnight, but only three people get first names.
23-12-2018 11:12:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Is it better than RWBY?
23-12-2018 11:12:52 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yes.
23-12-2018 11:13:08 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Much more my sort of show, though, so YMMV.
23-12-2018 11:13:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: sounds dumb~
23-12-2018 11:13:53 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh, the physics are also reliably stupid.  And police procedure.
23-12-2018 11:14:06 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: They have GPS bullets which they use to track people.
23-12-2018 11:14:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: of course
23-12-2018 11:14:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: GPS bullets?
23-12-2018 11:15:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Don't people get hurt when you shoot them?
23-12-2018 11:15:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: is there a giant demon arm? That's the thing that gets me invested in dumb plots.
23-12-2018 11:15:24 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Mr. Blud regularly does things that there should be 20+ SWAT officers for, and I am 100% sure that he does a better job than said SWAT would.
23-12-2018 11:15:42 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Nope!  There's superpower masks, but it's otherwise very grounded as far as plot.
23-12-2018 11:16:00 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: dammit
23-12-2018 11:16:21 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: People do get hurt!  And you're not supposed to shoot people unless you mean to kill them!  And GPS bullets would never work!
23-12-2018 11:16:27 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: But naaah.
23-12-2018 11:16:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: GPS bullet. simple.
23-12-2018 11:16:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you take a bullet, put the GPS in it
23-12-2018 11:17:13 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: just like shotgun bolts
23-12-2018 11:17:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you take a bolt, stick a shotgun shell on there. done.
23-12-2018 11:17:38 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: A guy was shot in the face by a 9mm GPS bullet, fired from a 92FS (I think).  He pulled it out intact, because majik mask.  Later he loaded the projectile into his revolver, then shot himself with it again.
23-12-2018 11:17:51 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Infuriating.
23-12-2018 11:18:03 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: of course that's how bullets work
23-12-2018 11:18:21 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you load a bullet into a gun, then the gun shoots a bullet
23-12-2018 11:18:38 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: At least they're not firing the whole casing.
23-12-2018 11:18:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Heh.
23-12-2018 11:18:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Aren't they, considering what that guy did?
23-12-2018 11:19:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Is the bullet the entire casing and they're like electrically powered or something?
23-12-2018 11:19:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...I once had an idea for a sci-fi story involving a gauss revolver so that there could be a gimmick where the cowboy fires the same bullet twice.
23-12-2018 11:19:38 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: No, he just magically fired a projectile.  Guns in this world are all air-powered.
23-12-2018 11:19:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Ahh.
23-12-2018 11:19:53 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Another problem is that bullets deform, ER.
23-12-2018 11:20:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: well, with air guns shooting people to track them makes more sense.
23-12-2018 11:20:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's probably some sort of magic space alloy shhhh
23-12-2018 11:20:17 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: (they aren't, they're clearly gunpowder based)
23-12-2018 11:20:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: ...I kinda want to see an anime where everyone fights with air-powered weapons now.
23-12-2018 11:20:50 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Does airsoft count?
23-12-2018 11:21:00 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the gun just has a seperate gunpowder storage tank, obviously.
23-12-2018 11:21:06 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hahaha!
23-12-2018 11:21:11 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I like that.
23-12-2018 11:21:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: That's also great.
23-12-2018 11:22:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I'd prefer ones where the guns are intended to be effective weapons, they're just, for whatever reason, all air-powered.
23-12-2018 11:23:05 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Don't know anything then.
23-12-2018 11:23:33 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: There are some pretty lethal air rifles, it could make sense in some settings.
23-12-2018 11:23:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: air powered guns and air powered bombs and air powered swords
23-12-2018 11:24:10 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeaaaah, less so.
23-12-2018 11:24:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I think you could do an air melee weapon.
23-12-2018 11:24:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: bombs wouldn't really cut it, though.
23-12-2018 11:24:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: is there any world where compressed air lethal guns are easier to make than chemical propellant lethal guns?
23-12-2018 11:25:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: One where you don't have gunpowder, or where it is very scarce, closely controlled... hell, just not understood.
23-12-2018 11:25:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: one where god tosses compressed air tanks at you from the heavens, I guess
23-12-2018 11:25:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Maybe a low-metal world so you have very restrictive chamber pressures.
23-12-2018 11:26:38 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Eh.  The lethal air rifles I know of all have metal construction.  Plus, pressurised, durabke air tanks.
23-12-2018 11:26:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.
23-12-2018 11:26:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: and you need a valve.
23-12-2018 11:26:53 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh, obviously religion solves all problems like this. Explosives are heresy.
23-12-2018 11:26:59 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Heh.
23-12-2018 11:27:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: just like circles
23-12-2018 11:27:16 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Religion is very useful.
23-12-2018 11:27:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: circles are heresy?
23-12-2018 11:27:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: or circles solve all problems?
23-12-2018 11:27:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yes
23-12-2018 11:27:25 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "Why are people stupid?" "Religion."
23-12-2018 11:27:39 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Sorry.
23-12-2018 11:27:51 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Circles are heresy, Dev.
23-12-2018 11:28:02 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's triangles that solve everything.
23-12-2018 11:28:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: The Linear Cult, eh?
23-12-2018 11:28:18 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: `1
23-12-2018 11:28:27 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: then halfway through you can introduce the people who have a different religion and they use gunpowder guns to utterly wreck the airgun people.
23-12-2018 11:28:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Or The Church of the Trinity.
23-12-2018 11:29:48 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hmm.  You know, that might make an interesting mechanic in some game.  Everyone gets air rifles, and is perfectly skilled with them, but lethality is dependant on air pressure.
23-12-2018 11:29:59 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: The more you shoot, the less your shots will do.
23-12-2018 11:30:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: weaker with every shot fired?
23-12-2018 11:30:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: don't miss, then.
23-12-2018 11:30:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah.  Maybe have some weak luck elements, so favorable conditions have better results than blind fire and such, but have shots basically autohit when reasonable.
23-12-2018 11:31:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Metro 2033 is a videogame with pneumatic guns
23-12-2018 11:31:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: hmm.
23-12-2018 11:31:33 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: they're pretty fun to play with
23-12-2018 11:31:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: autohit could mean lots of cover getting used.
23-12-2018 11:32:28 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: base hit chance for a stationary target in the open is 100% and it goes down from there.
23-12-2018 11:32:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hrm.  Yeah.  Enemies could be an issue.  They can't have good weapons, else the weapons'll just get stolen.
23-12-2018 11:32:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the enemies use propellant guns, which are heresy to use
23-12-2018 11:33:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You get no reloads for enemy weapons.
23-12-2018 11:33:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: and the jackasses don't bring many extras since they know you guys don't have the ability to make more.
23-12-2018 11:33:42 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Damn it ER.  Stop having good, obvious solutions.
23-12-2018 11:33:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: RELIGION
23-12-2018 11:33:58 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Man, having the PCs be crazy cultists just makes this even better.
23-12-2018 11:34:00 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: SOLVES EVERYTHING
23-12-2018 11:36:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You could have them outnumber the opponents.
23-12-2018 11:37:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: The cult has more people and that's how they win.
23-12-2018 11:37:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no, they win because air guns are the answer
23-12-2018 11:37:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also their god has blessed them with PERFECT ACCURACY when using air guns
23-12-2018 11:38:00 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ^
23-12-2018 11:38:28 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: They'd have to be cultists of something lovecraftian, but I don't think I could do that justice.
23-12-2018 11:38:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: HJBBKJ'HGCCF, LORD OF THE WINDS
23-12-2018 11:39:00 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: wow
23-12-2018 11:39:13 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I mashed my keyboard and didn't type any vowels
23-12-2018 11:39:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: As long as they never touch a gunpowder firearm, they cannot miss with air guns.
23-12-2018 11:39:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: works for me.
23-12-2018 11:40:03 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Impressive, ER.
23-12-2018 11:54:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: madness in awful hospital.
23-12-2018 11:54:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: The More Maggots fairy.
23-12-2018 11:54:33 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Ugh.
23-12-2018 11:54:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: not the maggots fairy, the MORE maggots fairy
23-12-2018 11:54:58 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: for when you have some maggots, but need more
23-12-2018 11:55:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Did someone just suggest that, or was there some foreshadowing I missed?
23-12-2018 11:56:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: apparently she's from some of bogleech's earlier comics
23-12-2018 11:57:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Oh.
23-12-2018 11:58:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: ..I was kinda hoping that came out of nowhere.
23-12-2018 12:04:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: So who is skully going to be?
23-12-2018 12:06:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: And how is Divine Fuckery going?
23-12-2018 12:07:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: uh, same as before because it hasn't updated
23-12-2018 12:08:09 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hey, ER, when do you have to get up today?
23-12-2018 12:08:35 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: in like two hours
23-12-2018 12:09:57 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You should probably try and squeeze in some sleep there.
23-12-2018 12:10:07 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: An hour or two of sleep can make a lot of difference.
23-12-2018 12:11:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: watching saltybet is pretty much like sleeping. I sit immobile and watch some random bullshit happen.
23-12-2018 12:12:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'm sure you'll have a different opinion in six hours.
23-12-2018 12:12:51 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Your choice, though.
23-12-2018 12:14:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I think ER got a couple to start it off.
23-12-2018 12:14:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: how's work going, syv?
23-12-2018 12:14:47 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Literally nothing has happened.
23-12-2018 12:15:18 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Bit of fog earlier, but it went away quickly.  Otherwise, I haven't seen a single cloud all night.
23-12-2018 12:16:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Huh.
23-12-2018 12:18:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: So.. what are auto Mina and Asha going to do?
23-12-2018 12:20:33 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: start uh, flaying tooru. That seems right
23-12-2018 12:21:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: honestly though, it would be reasonable to auto Asha as contenuing to freak out and do nothing
23-12-2018 12:21:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Yeah.. but will that kill another character?
23-12-2018 12:22:23 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: At worst, Asha will merely defend Tooru.  I don't see her sitting idly by as Tooru is attacked.
23-12-2018 12:22:44 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: She'd certainly be reluctant to charge into battle, away from Tooru, though.
23-12-2018 12:22:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Nah, she did strike at the familiars already.
23-12-2018 12:22:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: so yeah.
23-12-2018 12:23:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: of course, merely defending will not really make tooru's situation any better
23-12-2018 12:24:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: unless someone figures out something relevant to do, that'll just get worse
23-12-2018 12:24:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I've had suggestions..
23-12-2018 12:25:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: don't know if they're good ones.
23-12-2018 12:25:13 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you ain't present, alida
23-12-2018 12:25:51 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you're both dead and some distance away, so double not present!
23-12-2018 12:26:12 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm
23-12-2018 12:26:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Well, neither are you, Sophia.
23-12-2018 12:26:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: until observed, the Alida exists in a superposition of shot in the head and not shot in the head.
23-12-2018 12:26:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Hey, my soul gem is, like, right there.
23-12-2018 12:26:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: so she's present.
23-12-2018 12:27:01 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And when observed, she remains in said superposition.
23-12-2018 12:27:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Yes, which means that I'm not one the the people who can present a solution!
23-12-2018 12:27:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Can I recover my wet stuff by switching backpacks again?
23-12-2018 12:27:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: We do have more important stuff, but that's a fun usage of the ability.
23-12-2018 12:28:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm
23-12-2018 12:29:02 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: here's a somewhat mechanical question, syv
23-12-2018 12:29:23 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Ugh.
23-12-2018 12:29:32 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: if my soul gem is somewhere that I can't see, does that make me unable to tell what light level it's at?
23-12-2018 12:30:02 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hmm.
23-12-2018 12:30:35 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Dev, anything that was in Alida's original backpack is still in there, and I guess there's clones of all of it in her current backpack too.
23-12-2018 12:30:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: sticking my soul in a lockbox could have other problems associated with it, but I figure those I'd just have to try it out and see. :P
23-12-2018 12:31:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: You've got latency issues.
23-12-2018 12:31:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: but if you're carrying around the lockbox, that'd be fine.
23-12-2018 12:31:16 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: If you try and abuse the laws of physics or causality or something with this, it will go poorly.  Don't think about it too hard, 'cause God certainly didn't.
23-12-2018 12:31:51 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Well, the signal could travel more slowly through the dense material than air, causing delay.
23-12-2018 12:32:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I might try something bizarre with that, but in general I need to spend moderate to make a copy, and cheap-per-turn to keep it going, and I can only keep one copy of everything after dropping the power.
23-12-2018 12:32:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It won't involve time travel or anything else weird.
23-12-2018 12:32:25 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: @ER hard to say.  Mechanically I assume people to check their soul level by looking at it (and you can totally forget to check, same as your character), but in-universe there should be some level of sense beyond visual.  If your soul gem is very dark, you'll feel bad, and if it's radiant, you'll feel good.
23-12-2018 12:32:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: But.. what if I were to copy someone else's body that way?
23-12-2018 12:32:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: Assuming it'd count as an effigy.
23-12-2018 12:32:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I thought we simply didn't notice any effects from a low soul gem until its gone.
23-12-2018 12:33:07 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: In practice, the answer is that I'd likely leave the sheet as it is, unless I were looking to penalize that player, so you can tell your soul level without vision.
23-12-2018 12:33:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It shouldn't be a big deal, anyway.  I can't see any advantage to not knowing your soul gem's brightness.
23-12-2018 12:33:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: is attempting to make my soul bulletproof something you'd penalize? :V
23-12-2018 12:34:02 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: No cloning other bodies with effigy, unless it's a small body.  I'm just gonna say Effigy works with similar size rules to Stasis.
23-12-2018 12:34:10 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Maybe, maybe not.
23-12-2018 12:34:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: okay, so only stuff that's fairly small.
23-12-2018 12:34:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: and 'small' on an absolute scale, not relative.
23-12-2018 12:34:59 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, that's definately something I should at least try.
23-12-2018 12:35:03 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You?  No, because you're pretty liable to kill yourself.  Dev?  Maybe, but Dev kinda shoots himself in the foot as a masturbatory aide..
23-12-2018 12:35:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: It must be no bigger than a backpack, say.
23-12-2018 12:35:13 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...with backup, in case it goes wrong.
23-12-2018 12:35:23 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Lenglon?  Or myself?  True power gamers?  Absolutely.
23-12-2018 12:36:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: As far as you know, that's only a hypothetical situation, syv.
23-12-2018 12:36:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's somewhat possible that putting my soul in a safe and closing the door just causes me to lose control of my body, so having someone around to help me would be bineficial.
23-12-2018 12:37:24 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: The thing is, while having your soul in a safe *would* be pretty helpful, it's by no means broken.  There's too much powerful stuff which regards a safe as merely a delay, or outright irrelevant.
23-12-2018 12:38:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Recall Sharon having a massive portion of her torso, armor and all, get blown off by a single attack.
23-12-2018 12:38:43 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Isabella's witch form would scarecly have given a fuck, as well.
23-12-2018 12:38:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...yes, but it's helpful if I happen to be, say, shot at.
23-12-2018 12:38:50 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yup.
23-12-2018 12:39:03 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Go ahead and try.
23-12-2018 12:39:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: If Isabella thought to armor her soul before fighting enemies with guns, she might have survived that.
23-12-2018 12:41:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I wouldn't do it anytime soon, anyway, syv.
23-12-2018 12:42:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: 'Getting gun' seems like it would take priority.
23-12-2018 12:42:11 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah
23-12-2018 12:42:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Bye, all.
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23-12-2018 12:43:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: I think Kali sometimes simply won't take you back.
23-12-2018 12:44:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: got a present, then blew up an altar, and then sacrificed a damsel and four live yetis at an altar in the next level.
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23-12-2018 13:05:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@iljx-1p8ck1su2aqb36fu7xemusgpa.ipv3.telus.net: "I'm assuming even Starfleet Security can manage not to lose someone while standing next to them in an elevator."