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07-12-2018 02:44:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: https://youtu.be/a8Wp1UWw02I
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07-12-2018 04:32:14 < * syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net coughs quietly
07-12-2018 04:32:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: bepp
07-12-2018 04:32:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: https://youtu.be/4j3Ji2hJYX0
07-12-2018 04:33:36 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: No videos.  :(
07-12-2018 04:33:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the art on that is hilarious, because everything is realistic and consistant except for her face, which is ANIME.
07-12-2018 04:34:19 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: (is just a song mix with a background)
07-12-2018 04:35:06 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: ...It's an hour long.
07-12-2018 04:35:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: multiple songs
07-12-2018 04:36:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: plenty of videos are hours long. twitch stream recordings tend to be like 3 hours
07-12-2018 04:37:37 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: The only streamer videos I watch are LobosJR vids, and even then, generally only at work when I don't have anything better to aside from *think about* playing DaS.
07-12-2018 04:39:12 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Speaking of, I finally beat Scorched Contract.
07-12-2018 04:39:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: they need to make DS for mobile phone~
07-12-2018 04:39:19 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nice.
07-12-2018 04:40:33 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Gwyn was a major roadblock for me.  178 deaths in the Kiln total.  Which happened to be precisely equal to the number of deaths I had in the entire playthrough before the Kiln.
07-12-2018 04:40:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ouch
07-12-2018 04:41:38 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: I was trying to fight Gwyn with a fire butcher knife.
07-12-2018 04:42:30 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Not actually a terrible choice, but it couldn't oneshot BKs, and when I swapped to a normal server (and waited for physical pixies), things got MUCH easier.
07-12-2018 04:43:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: server, batter
07-12-2018 04:43:24 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Only needed six(?) ripostes, plus some well-timed hits, and it could stagger him on every other hit.
07-12-2018 04:46:51 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Also!  I think I figured out how to positionally dodge Gwyn's attacks for the SL1 no roll/block challenge.
07-12-2018 05:02:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hmm
07-12-2018 05:03:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: you know, one thing that makes DS good is that it's ACTUALLY both an RPG and an Action game.
07-12-2018 05:03:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Not an Action game with "RPG elements", or an RPG with "Action elements"
07-12-2018 05:05:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: The way you level up and what weapons you use and what kind of spells you use all have a tangible effect on what playing the game is like.
07-12-2018 05:05:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: But at the same time, your skill at fighting is one of the most important things determining if you win or lose.
07-12-2018 05:07:10 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Skill based, but with relevant stats.
07-12-2018 05:07:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Plenty of action games just throw you a halfhearted skill tree to make you feel like you're making some form of progress. None of it matters much and by the end of the game you have everything.
07-12-2018 05:08:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: And then I discovered Tales of Berseria, which is an RPG that dresses itself up like combos and blocking and dodging are going to be important, but... they're not. What's important is how well leveled you are.
07-12-2018 05:10:00 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Also, DaS is genuinely fairly difficult.
07-12-2018 05:10:12 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: That's why I can jump into Dark Souls, a game that I've put hours an hours into, and still have fun. I can start a new character and both be doing something NEW, and enjoy the timeless pleasure of stabbing hollows and dodging attacks.
07-12-2018 05:10:18 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: It's not super hard, but it doesn't hold your hand and a lot of people find it too hard.
07-12-2018 05:10:49 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Unlike many games, where if you get the basic mechanics and have the time, you'll complete it easily.
07-12-2018 05:11:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...I think it's easy to take for granted just how low the videogame skill floor goes.
07-12-2018 05:12:24 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: I remember finding Halo on Normal difficult when I was a kid.
07-12-2018 05:12:42 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'm sure there's people out there who, when presented with the very start of mario 64, panic, mash the controls wildly, jump into the moat and drown.
07-12-2018 05:24:17 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: ...Wait, you can swim in that game.  And it takes forever to drown.  And not drowning is utterly trivial.
07-12-2018 05:24:31 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Yet, I can't bring myself to say that you're wrong.
07-12-2018 05:31:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's a game where one of the first levels is almost exclusively underwater, yes.
07-12-2018 05:32:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...also, your life bar and air bar are the same thing, so swimming on the surface of the water will fully heal you.
07-12-2018 05:33:13 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Wait, really?
07-12-2018 05:33:29 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: I had no idea, though I played that game a ton when young.
07-12-2018 05:33:39 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: ...And have watched a lot of pannenkoek.
07-12-2018 05:34:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: uhhhhh. that's how I remember it. It may have been like fiiiiive? years since I've played it.
07-12-2018 05:35:29 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: I think it's been over a decade for me...
07-12-2018 05:36:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I have played the game at some point after I turned 11 so that means I win!
07-12-2018 05:37:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: unless I've truly lost track of time, which is possible.
07-12-2018 05:37:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: stuff never made sense to me in the first place. It's like space but not! what!
07-12-2018 05:38:22 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: what's it do? just changes things? but space changes things too. But it's not space.
07-12-2018 05:38:42 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: How'd Albeom coming?
07-12-2018 05:39:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I am not currently writing it. How judgemental is your current expression.
07-12-2018 05:39:29 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I need to feel it
07-12-2018 05:42:37 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: I'm currently struggling to write 20% of a PS update which is two days late.
07-12-2018 05:42:43 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: I pass no judgement.
07-12-2018 05:42:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: aw
07-12-2018 05:44:16 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: late already? *checks* oh yeah, you said you'd finish Alida "tomorrow"
07-12-2018 05:45:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that was foolish, it's impossible to update something on two consecutive days unless you're a superhuman being like PW~
07-12-2018 05:45:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Surprised that nobody's actioned yet. Do they all think that Alida's bit will be strategically relevant?
07-12-2018 05:48:19 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Eh.  Decaying interest.
07-12-2018 05:49:06 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: my interest is cursed to never decay till Sophia sees light of day.
07-12-2018 05:49:59 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so keep going... lest I whine at ye
07-12-2018 05:52:23 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Meh, I think Alida's done.
07-12-2018 05:52:34 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: No Sophia tonight, because I am very tired.
07-12-2018 05:53:03 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: I hate this update already, it's clearly empty work that only exists because it must.  Oh well.
07-12-2018 05:53:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: all work exists because it must. otherwise it wouldn't!
07-12-2018 05:54:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: believing in determinism makes everything so simple, honestly~
07-12-2018 06:05:38 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: My belief in determinism typically comes alongside depression and attempting to sleep >20 hours in a day.
07-12-2018 06:07:29 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: my depression doesn't really have any particular philosophy, just ughhh let's not do anything today
07-12-2018 06:09:09 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: :(
07-12-2018 06:10:16 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: It's colder than 60° F right now.
07-12-2018 06:10:26 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: This is horrible.
07-12-2018 06:11:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: when I really think of it, I'm just a small element of a massive earthly cycle of life and death, growth and decay, roiling change. I'll play out a small part of that and then die forever having accomplished nothing lasting. It's pretty rad!
07-12-2018 06:12:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Life is a good thing, even though it's unerringly horrible. Better to have been part of it than not.
07-12-2018 06:12:54 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Your superficial optimism makes my eyes roll.
07-12-2018 06:14:47 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it doesn't matter, we'll both be dead forever soon~
07-12-2018 07:38:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh, update
07-12-2018 07:38:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: neat
07-12-2018 07:55:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: 'lo
07-12-2018 07:55:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: heya syv, ER.
07-12-2018 07:55:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: decaying interest?
07-12-2018 07:55:36 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: heya dev, ER.
07-12-2018 07:56:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: RGU figure out what a [kitten] is yet?
07-12-2018 07:58:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: Heh.
07-12-2018 08:00:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: I was wondering if you'd ask that question in the SG.
07-12-2018 08:01:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: magic transformations, man
07-12-2018 08:02:03 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "you can turn into anything you like so long as you've seen a similar creature before and it's not too big or small"
07-12-2018 08:02:42 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: That becomes some stupid powerful stuff if that includes magical creatures.
07-12-2018 08:03:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'm mostly asking so that he'll say no and I can know for sure what our limits are. :P
07-12-2018 08:03:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: He'll probably say yes to at least some of it.
07-12-2018 08:03:59 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: because as-stated, that lets us just... turn into every other flavor of dragon, making shapeshifter the best boon ever ever ever
07-12-2018 08:04:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: Yes.
07-12-2018 08:05:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: When isn't it, really?
07-12-2018 08:05:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: 'young adult dragon.'
07-12-2018 08:05:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: was looking for that.
07-12-2018 08:07:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ida gone for a dragoness, but yeah that might not be optimal
07-12-2018 08:08:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: Another problem that can be solved through shapeshifting.
07-12-2018 08:08:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Hm. That. Might work?
07-12-2018 08:16:47 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: What game is this?
07-12-2018 08:16:59 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: dragon lord's flight
07-12-2018 08:17:40 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Sounds like me ten years ago.
07-12-2018 08:18:00 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Is it munchkinnable?
07-12-2018 08:18:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: tl;dr: you're a dragon, dwarven empire is killing all the dragons and also taking over the world, you grab a few populations of puny mortals and go on ships to colonize a distant land.
07-12-2018 08:19:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: Seems intended for fairly slow, strategic play.
07-12-2018 08:19:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: ER's turned it into a dungeon crawl.
07-12-2018 08:19:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: We picked a male purple dragon, which breaths negative energy and empowers spellcasters around him. And we're a shapeshifter, which among many other things lets us make half dragon babies with people.
07-12-2018 08:20:06 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Hey, it wasn't ALL my fault.
07-12-2018 08:20:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: The people we brought along were a bunch of stuck up high elves with lots of magic, tieflings, and merfolk slaves.
07-12-2018 08:20:48 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Hmm.
07-12-2018 08:20:57 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: SG, so kinda political, I assume?
07-12-2018 08:21:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: kinda.
07-12-2018 08:21:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: We are planning to marry the high elf princess because she can boss around the other elves.
07-12-2018 08:21:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: Presumably.
07-12-2018 08:21:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: and apparently really wants dragon babies.
07-12-2018 08:22:03 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Apparently.
07-12-2018 08:22:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: Should try for the high score there.  ;-p
07-12-2018 08:22:17 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: -.-
07-12-2018 08:22:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I agree.
07-12-2018 08:22:40 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Why can't people keep their weird fantasies to the weird fantasy sites.
07-12-2018 08:23:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: Heh.
07-12-2018 08:23:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: tis a valid strategical choice, mine fam! Totally.
07-12-2018 08:24:07 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: also dragons are horny and if your lore disagrees you have bad lore. Because half dragons are awesome and it's also kinda hilarious.
07-12-2018 08:24:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: That's probably true, although everything mentioned about high elves seems designed around not actually having babies, just decade-long courtships that may, just possibly, result in one.
07-12-2018 08:25:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: Which does make sense when talkign about immortals.
07-12-2018 08:25:18 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Half dragon dogs.  Half dragon cats.  Half dragon griffons.  Just have a civilization, ruled by one elder male dragon, which has hybridized EVERY domestic species with dragons.
07-12-2018 08:25:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: Isn't that normal D&D?
07-12-2018 08:25:53 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: those wacky dragons! screwing anything that lives.
07-12-2018 08:26:07 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Half-dragon treants.
07-12-2018 08:26:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: Probably.
07-12-2018 08:26:37 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Half-dragon tardigrades.
07-12-2018 08:26:47 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Half-dragon amoeba.
07-12-2018 08:26:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: Although I suspect the princess's ardour may diminish if she lays an egg.
07-12-2018 08:26:54 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Half-dragon ants.
07-12-2018 08:27:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: I think GM said 'nothing too small.'
07-12-2018 08:27:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "too small" does imply we can't turn into insects.
07-12-2018 08:27:27 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: It doesn't state it explicitly, though.
07-12-2018 08:27:38 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: If you can turn into a mouse, you can turn into a spider.
07-12-2018 08:27:46 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Half-dragon tarantula.
07-12-2018 08:27:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: well, we buff spellcasters.  Have spellcaster cast 'reduce', shapeshift, have another one cast 'reduce', shapeshift again..
07-12-2018 08:27:52 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Half-dragon amblypygid.
07-12-2018 08:27:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: I'm sure if it's attempted it can be done.
07-12-2018 08:28:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Yeah, I was a little frustrated that the final answer to "what are the constraints on this" was so... vague.
07-12-2018 08:28:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "not too small or too big" and that's it
07-12-2018 08:28:29 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Half-dragon monitor lizard.
07-12-2018 08:28:32 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: You know.
07-12-2018 08:28:43 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Why aren't there half gold silver dragons?
07-12-2018 08:28:47 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I did just ask about turning into tarantula.
07-12-2018 08:29:00 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: There's half dragons of everything, but no mix breed dragons.
07-12-2018 08:29:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: maybe they hate each other
07-12-2018 08:29:26 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: So dragons fuck everything, except dragons which are different kinds of dragons.
07-12-2018 08:29:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: Oh, cats are already confirmed, syv.
07-12-2018 08:29:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: so half-dragon kitties are possible.
07-12-2018 08:30:14 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: If that actually occurs it'll be a travesty.
07-12-2018 08:30:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: I doubt it will.
07-12-2018 08:31:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Someone might object to making love to animals, despite us being an explicitly evil chromatic dragon
07-12-2018 08:33:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: I'm sure someone would object to eating animals despite being a very large carnivore.
07-12-2018 08:33:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I mean, trying to optimize for high score on half dragons already makes me a little nervous, because one of the minion races we brought along are our slaves.
07-12-2018 08:34:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: optimal might be uncomfortable.
07-12-2018 08:35:32 < syv!syvarris@zvwkwm-637-697-194-83.mycingular.net: Optimal succubus play.
07-12-2018 08:35:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: I was more suspecting only going for the high score from the princess.  We have a couple of rapid breeding species as followers already.  So only breed with the species that doesn't breed.
07-12-2018 08:36:35 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: going for high score with the slow maturing elves sounds sub-optimal
07-12-2018 08:36:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: It means that we can have two fast-breeding species and a species of half-dragon elves.
07-12-2018 08:38:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: The goal would be to supplant the high elves.
07-12-2018 08:38:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: half dragon elves is a like, "in 300 years" sort of thing
07-12-2018 08:38:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: Well, yes.  What did you have in mind?
07-12-2018 08:38:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: by then we might have a decent pop
07-12-2018 08:42:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: Also, going to have to spread it around to more than just the one elf, if we're going to replace the entire species.
07-12-2018 08:43:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: I recommend doubling the number of mates each breeding cycle.
07-12-2018 08:44:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: does sound like elven culture won't take issue with mating with more than one elf even if we get married, so that's good.
07-12-2018 08:47:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: Just have to rewrite the rules for our elven society.
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07-12-2018 09:01:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: well, update is good.
07-12-2018 09:01:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: I'll think about what to do next and what to respond to syv's request.
07-12-2018 09:08:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: An alternative high score:  Maximum size.  ;-p
07-12-2018 09:08:58 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: not convinced that that's negociable.
07-12-2018 09:09:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: If I were GM, size constraints would be absolute and not modified by size-changing magic.
07-12-2018 09:10:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: Doesn't need to be size-changing magic.
07-12-2018 09:10:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: being a dragon, aging magic would work as well.
07-12-2018 09:10:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: If you get enlarged past your normal limit by someone else's magic, you can still transform into the same things as normal and if you do, the spell ends.
07-12-2018 09:12:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: aww.
07-12-2018 09:12:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: well, get the spell permanancied then.
07-12-2018 09:13:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Then you can't use those nice transforming powers any more, unless you want to cast the spell over again.
07-12-2018 09:14:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: Hmm.
07-12-2018 09:14:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: so any kind of magic that does stuff which doesn't change your size is okay?
07-12-2018 09:14:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: what?
07-12-2018 09:17:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: well, if it changes your size indirectly, like letting you absorb material into your body, would that be okay?
07-12-2018 09:17:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: what does "okay" mean?
07-12-2018 09:18:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: It's not going to magically change what shapeshifter does, if that's what you mean.
07-12-2018 09:21:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: eh, it's magic.  Should be able to push the lmiits on it.
07-12-2018 09:21:58 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: eh
07-12-2018 09:23:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: well, you're the one in it, so pick your goal.
07-12-2018 09:24:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: be it to bone as many people, creatures, animals and objects as possible, or whatever.
07-12-2018 09:24:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that and treasure, pretty much
07-12-2018 09:24:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...do have to think about politic some, though
07-12-2018 09:25:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: Acquiring treasure works too.
07-12-2018 09:25:28 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: because we happen to have surrounded ourselves with people who will not not stab us in the back for profit
07-12-2018 09:25:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: I can think of some settings where the size of a dragon is directly related to the size of the loot pile.
07-12-2018 09:26:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: in general.
07-12-2018 09:27:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: although the other people with us are pretty chill so far.
07-12-2018 09:27:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: coming back with loot, feeding them, and not killing them all is pretty much all you need to do in this sort of setting.
07-12-2018 09:27:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: they might want to cause problems, but it's somewhat difficult to assassinate a dragon.
07-12-2018 09:28:19 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: difficult until it's not, that is
07-12-2018 09:29:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: sure, a ballista isn't a SMALL thing, but it's possible for one to go unnoticed for long enough to shoot down glorious leader
07-12-2018 09:29:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: It's not going to get easier to assassinate a dragon over time.
07-12-2018 09:29:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yes it will
07-12-2018 09:29:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: Hmm?
07-12-2018 09:29:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: What do you mean?
07-12-2018 09:29:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: more industry, more places to hide things, closer empire
07-12-2018 09:30:06 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the world does in fact out scale us
07-12-2018 09:31:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: I don't know.
07-12-2018 09:32:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: The world is bigger than just things controlled by us.
07-12-2018 09:32:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: I mean, it's certainly possible that we'll get more likely to be assassinated, simply due to the change in the ratio of interal enemies to external enemies.
07-12-2018 09:32:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: but for an individual assassination, that isn't going to get easier over time.
07-12-2018 09:33:28 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: we will inevitably gain many many more enemies of all types.
07-12-2018 09:33:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Our holdings will inevitably become more powerful, and less under our control
07-12-2018 09:35:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: That's true, but if you're worried about that we need to increase our personal power along with the power of our demsene.
07-12-2018 09:36:06 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: That's possible, but diminishing returns. There's a limited amount of personal power that you can get on top of being an adult dragon.
07-12-2018 09:36:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: And I imagine that a lot of it won't help us take an imperial ballista bolt from ambush.
07-12-2018 09:37:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: That should be doable, actually.
07-12-2018 09:37:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: So in the end, we do rely somewhat on allies, because if we ignore the people who like us and piss everyone off, we will just die.
07-12-2018 09:37:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: "These bracers grant you the benefit of the Deflect Arrows feat."
07-12-2018 09:38:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: But yes, I do agree with that.
07-12-2018 09:38:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: At the same time, I can think of lots of ways to improve the capabilities of an adult dragon, even beyond the point where it's normally diminishing.
07-12-2018 09:40:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: ..kinda been thinking about kitting out giant flying creatures for a while, after all.
07-12-2018 09:42:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: Also, magic item crafters are likely to be mages, and thus boosted from the aura.
07-12-2018 09:42:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: so we should be able to get the best stuff.
07-12-2018 09:47:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: We could also pull a Sauron.
07-12-2018 09:47:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: key the power of our allies to our own power.
07-12-2018 09:48:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: because that ended great for him
07-12-2018 09:58:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: Hey, we are evil..
07-12-2018 09:58:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: and he didn't get backstabbed by his own side.
07-12-2018 10:19:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: deadlocked in driderverse.
07-12-2018 10:19:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: I'll change to your option, as long as we take out the bad guy next update.
07-12-2018 10:19:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: you okay with that?
07-12-2018 10:20:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: if you like
07-12-2018 10:36:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: oh well.
07-12-2018 10:36:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: we'll probably set off the cult doomsday machine and destroy everything.
07-12-2018 10:52:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@skhy-0w9vw9lg1ymt22poaveg8rufj.ipv1.telus.net: Huh, there is now a battlescape mode for CS.
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