24-10-2018 01:48:53 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "Automatically performed when leaving therion form after successfully performing a Consuming Claw attack on a dragon-type enemy."
24-10-2018 02:18:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: okay suddenly this combat is pretty fun :P
24-10-2018 02:18:38 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: the BREAK SOUL move that I got kinda sells it
24-10-2018 03:06:15 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: okay, yup, just got my first party member and I can switch over to him as leader
24-10-2018 03:09:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so, four move combos, times four buttons, times (for now) two character
24-10-2018 04:24:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...this game has cooking?
24-10-2018 04:26:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well look at that, a whole cooking system
24-10-2018 04:27:02 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: with it's own levelup system!
24-10-2018 04:52:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: THUNDA BLITZU
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24-10-2018 05:36:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: heyyy~
24-10-2018 05:36:21 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.mqm.ph: Lo
24-10-2018 05:36:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: this game good
24-10-2018 05:37:19 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.mqm.ph: What game?
24-10-2018 05:37:29 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: tales of berseria
24-10-2018 05:37:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: game also complicated
24-10-2018 05:38:48 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.mqm.ph: I see
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24-10-2018 06:14:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: whew
24-10-2018 06:15:05 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I wouldn't say that the game's absolutely opened up yet, but I just beat the first dungeon (after all the ones that come before it, of course)
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24-10-2018 06:55:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Dev, if you want me to stream ToB, just ask some time we're both online.
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24-10-2018 14:51:04 < er!androirc@953-03-608-632.mobile.uscc.net: Musing on rtd systems incoming. :P
24-10-2018 14:52:04 < er!androirc@953-03-608-632.mobile.uscc.net: The way that 888 works is kinda dumb, and what I'm proposing is just a slight variation on it and is therefore dumb as well.
24-10-2018 14:53:58 < er!androirc@953-03-608-632.mobile.uscc.net: The way skills work in 888 is that +1 transforms your 4 into a 5, a +2 transforms your 3 and 4 into 5, and a +3 turns your 2, 3, and 4 into 5.
24-10-2018 14:55:35 < er!androirc@953-03-608-632.mobile.uscc.net: Going from 0 to 1 costs 100 xp, so you're paying 100 xp to make your successes slightly better.
24-10-2018 14:56:57 < er!androirc@953-03-608-632.mobile.uscc.net: Going from 1 to 2 costs 200, which means paying 200 for a real improvement, making the almost-success of a 3 into an actual success.
24-10-2018 14:58:25 < er!androirc@953-03-608-632.mobile.uscc.net: And going from 2 to 3 costs 300 and is even better than the 3 to 5, because a 2 can be real bad sometimes.
24-10-2018 14:59:26 < er!androirc@953-03-608-632.mobile.uscc.net: So all that's a buildup to say: why make the player buy these improvements in strict order?
24-10-2018 15:00:58 < er!androirc@953-03-608-632.mobile.uscc.net: Turning a 3 into a 5 would be real valuable for a new character, while 4 to 5 in mostly only useful for more established characters.
24-10-2018 15:01:56 < er!androirc@953-03-608-632.mobile.uscc.net: So the proposal is this: each skill, rather than having a level, has 3 pips which can be filled in any order.
24-10-2018 15:03:59 < er!androirc@953-03-608-632.mobile.uscc.net: First pip costs 300 and makes your 2 a 5, second one costs 200 and makes your 3 a 5, and the third one costs 100 to make your 4 a 5.
24-10-2018 15:04:45 < er!androirc@953-03-608-632.mobile.uscc.net: Basically, pw's costs for things actually make sense here, just not the order in which you get them.
24-10-2018 15:06:49 < er!androirc@953-03-608-632.mobile.uscc.net: This way, you could spend 200 to buy just the middle pip, which makes your near misses into hits. Which makes sense for someone with just a basic level of skill.
24-10-2018 15:07:34 < er!androirc@953-03-608-632.mobile.uscc.net: First things you want to learn is how to not fuck up, not how to make your successes more perfect.
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24-10-2018 16:02:28 < er!androirc@384-98-346-870.mobile.uscc.net: Also, Nvidia made me make an account and log in to *install drivers*
24-10-2018 16:03:11 < er!androirc@384-98-346-870.mobile.uscc.net: And the program had a settings menu, so I went through that to turn off anything objectionable.
24-10-2018 16:03:51 < er!androirc@384-98-346-870.mobile.uscc.net: One of the things it did automatically was limit game fps to 30 to conserve battery.
24-10-2018 16:04:17 < er!androirc@384-98-346-870.mobile.uscc.net: Now, that might be a good idea, but they didn't ask.
24-10-2018 16:04:45 < er!androirc@384-98-346-870.mobile.uscc.net: If I hadn't looked, I'd never have known it was doing that.
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24-10-2018 18:22:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjx-9p5cp2co0jnv0xuhdabhkyz2t.ipv4.telus.net: Oh, Bella had red hair, if RC is reading the logs.
24-10-2018 18:27:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjx-9p5cp2co0jnv0xuhdabhkyz2t.ipv4.telus.net: She'd also drank some of Nan's blood, so she might look slightly exaggerated, like her features are caricatures of themselves.
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24-10-2018 22:09:23 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Mew.
24-10-2018 22:09:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: hai
24-10-2018 22:09:56 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hey.
24-10-2018 22:12:33 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I downloaded the true darkness mod for DaS, and played it for about a half hour, earlier today.
24-10-2018 22:13:06 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: dark?
24-10-2018 22:13:14 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It makes everything in the world, like in TotG, but... doesn't actually make it much more difficult, since I've memorized everything.
24-10-2018 22:13:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I've been hitting things with a big demon arm
24-10-2018 22:13:29 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: *dark like in TotG.
24-10-2018 22:13:32 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ToB?
24-10-2018 22:13:36 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yup
24-10-2018 22:13:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah, what you've said about the game sounds fun.
24-10-2018 22:13:56 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: If you want to stream sometime within the next six hours, I'd like to watch.
24-10-2018 22:14:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: alright, I'll say when I start
24-10-2018 22:14:47 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Say my name, too.
24-10-2018 22:24:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: syv syv
24-10-2018 22:24:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: tell me when you're watching, I wouldn't want you to miss the title sequence~
24-10-2018 22:25:04 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hmm.  Laptop's Firefox is being irritable.
24-10-2018 22:26:12 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "Watching" on my phone's screen.  Dual windows on tiny mobile device, go!
24-10-2018 22:26:28 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh boy
24-10-2018 22:26:55 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Nice FPS.
24-10-2018 22:27:26 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And by that I mean 5.
24-10-2018 22:27:45 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It looks extremely generic.
24-10-2018 22:27:56 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And sounds insufferable.
24-10-2018 22:29:06 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: FPS goes to thirty just in time for the half-naked girl, nice.
24-10-2018 22:29:35 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Offline?
24-10-2018 22:29:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: just downgrading things :P
24-10-2018 22:31:26 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Can you make her wear more clothes?
24-10-2018 22:31:39 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Is the whole damn thing in Japanese?
24-10-2018 22:32:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, cause I told it to be
24-10-2018 22:32:24 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You have terrible taste.
24-10-2018 22:32:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I know
24-10-2018 22:33:02 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You could at least run it in English for the guy who specifically asked to watch. -.-
24-10-2018 22:33:14 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: BECAUSE I thought it sounded interesting.
24-10-2018 22:34:19 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: it's got subtitles ya wimp
24-10-2018 22:34:40 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Can't see them.  Also, I generally just hate the sound of the language.
24-10-2018 22:34:56 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: KILL WHATEVER THAT IS
24-10-2018 22:35:17 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I HATE IT ABSOLUTELY AND ENTIRELY
24-10-2018 22:35:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yup, muting this.
24-10-2018 22:36:03 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Though its subtitles are also irritating.
24-10-2018 22:36:36 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...And its body motions.  Seriously, just kill it.
24-10-2018 22:36:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: fine, you asked to watch it
24-10-2018 22:37:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: this is how I'm playing it, changing the language suddenly would throw me off
24-10-2018 22:37:33 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Well then, it's safe to say I would not like the game as you've played it.
24-10-2018 22:37:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well, it has nothing good to sell
24-10-2018 22:37:55 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: So kill it.
24-10-2018 22:42:36 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Gonna stop watching and watch the cinematic on YT.
24-10-2018 22:45:27 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Yeah, that looks and sounds pretty much the same as every Shonen anime opening cinematic ever.
24-10-2018 22:45:43 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Offline now?
24-10-2018 22:45:51 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yup
24-10-2018 22:47:28 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Aww.
24-10-2018 22:47:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I'll put it back up if you want
24-10-2018 22:47:50 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I do want.
24-10-2018 22:48:05 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Laptop's working now, and I want to see the combat.
24-10-2018 22:48:25 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yay.
24-10-2018 22:49:05 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: So... can you explain anything of ehat's going on?
24-10-2018 22:49:12 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: that tiny kid sure is good at blasting shit
24-10-2018 22:49:36 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I control the girl. Can switch over to other characters tho
24-10-2018 22:49:37 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Very standard Japanese trope.
24-10-2018 22:49:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: this is my attack moves
24-10-2018 22:50:10 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "Mega sonic thrust"
24-10-2018 22:50:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: got the four face buttons, and I can set up four move combos for each
24-10-2018 22:50:23 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: This game is entirely distilled anime, isn't it?
24-10-2018 22:50:26 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: MEGA SONIC THRUST
24-10-2018 22:50:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, but I think that's standard for modern JRPGs
24-10-2018 22:50:46 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oooh, so, up+up is tearing thorn->Swallow Dance?
24-10-2018 22:50:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yup
24-10-2018 22:51:05 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Or... hmm.  Can you go up+down?
24-10-2018 22:51:11 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but I can also change what button I'm pushing mid combo
24-10-2018 22:51:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Is there any limitation tp the combos?  Are all four options open for each step?
24-10-2018 22:51:41 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: so down for searing edge, then when I press up it'll do swallow dance
24-10-2018 22:52:07 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: in combat, I have a soul gauge
24-10-2018 22:52:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: It's made up of sections which are
24-10-2018 22:52:25 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: "souls"
24-10-2018 22:52:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and every move uses up a bit of the gauge, then it refills automatically.
24-10-2018 22:53:04 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "Martial artes"...
24-10-2018 22:53:12 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: point is, I can only do as many moves in a combo as I have souls, and I start each fight with 3
24-10-2018 22:53:33 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but can get more by stunning, inflicting status effects, and killing.
24-10-2018 22:54:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Martial artes are hitting things. the hidden artes are more like spells, and cost lots more SP
24-10-2018 22:54:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: but if I use a martial arte first in a combo, chaining that into hidden artes will cost less SP
24-10-2018 22:55:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: There's a third type of arte called malak artes, but I don't have those cause I'm not a malak. They're magic spells that are powerful but need time to cast.
24-10-2018 22:55:55 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I am simultaneously intriuged by the potential complexity this system implies, and annoyed by the stupid "arte" name.
24-10-2018 22:56:07 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I also have a BREAK SOUL move on R2
24-10-2018 22:56:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: can only use if I have at least 3 souls, costs 1 to use, and gives that 1 to the enemy I attack.
24-10-2018 22:57:23 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Do some artes get boosts based on what artes you used previously?  So you could set it up so down is strongest after up-left-up, despite being *available* after any combo?
24-10-2018 22:58:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: buuuuut it's a giant claw, doesn't count toward the combo limit, does lots of damage, puts me in a special demon mode, and greatly increases the damage of moves I do later in the same combo.
24-10-2018 22:58:03 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...This would be hell to balance, even if so.  I'd be very impressed if it isn't trivially breakable.
24-10-2018 22:58:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Neat, I guess.
24-10-2018 22:59:03 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: And once I'm in that mode, I slowly start to lose HP, but if I try to use another move when I'd usually be capped, or I reach 1HP, I'll do a special Break Arte move, which depends on what category of enemy I hit with the claw.
24-10-2018 23:00:08 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: This all sounds badass, yes, but it functionally sounds less interesting than any button masher's limit break ability.
24-10-2018 23:00:22 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I want to know about the complexity of the combo mechanic.
24-10-2018 23:01:03 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh, can you put Mega Sonic Thrust in stage 2?
24-10-2018 23:01:10 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Yeah.
24-10-2018 23:01:14 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Any move anywhere
24-10-2018 23:01:25 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Is there any benefit to being late?
24-10-2018 23:02:19 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Well, more time in which I might have used a martial to lower the cost, or used break soul to increase the damage
24-10-2018 23:02:32 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...So no.
24-10-2018 23:02:48 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Also it's slow, so pulling off more moves beforehand might make the enemy stunned.
24-10-2018 23:03:29 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: In other words I could probably boil the combat system into eight moves, and just have stages 1 & 2 repeat, so I have everything I might want available on short notice.  :\
24-10-2018 23:04:31 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I haven't gotten a game over yet, so that seems like unnessiary work to me
24-10-2018 23:05:18 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: So the game has a lot of potential depth, but is really a button masher that will just let you win regardless with minimal work.  -.-
24-10-2018 23:05:39 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Her hair is absurdly long.
24-10-2018 23:05:53 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: dunno, I'm ONLY 11 hours in... ;P
24-10-2018 23:06:23 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I think I died like forty times 11 hours into Dark Souls.
24-10-2018 23:06:36 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Well she was locked in a cell for three years and did nothing but murder monsters and brood.
24-10-2018 23:06:47 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Shonen as shit.
24-10-2018 23:07:42 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Also, her little brother was murdered in order to save the world, and her brother in law is the one who did it, and now he's king of the world
24-10-2018 23:08:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: And her character motivation is literally just "murder that dude"
24-10-2018 23:08:19 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeaaah.  Interest: wholly lost.
24-10-2018 23:08:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: :P
24-10-2018 23:08:37 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Back to failing to write, I suppose.
24-10-2018 23:08:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Enjoy your game.
24-10-2018 23:08:57 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: gotta set up sweet demon adventures somehow, man
24-10-2018 23:10:27 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Is it possible to remove the party members and fight all battles alone?
24-10-2018 23:11:06 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: nah
24-10-2018 23:11:14 < * syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr sighs
24-10-2018 23:11:21 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: they are kinda spammy at this point
24-10-2018 23:11:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "Gald"
24-10-2018 23:11:41 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: shrug
24-10-2018 23:11:50 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh, 1P.  This is a multiplayer game?!
24-10-2018 23:12:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: at first I just had Rokurou, who is also melee, and his default AI is "deal with whatever the player isn't dealing with"
24-10-2018 23:12:19 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Wonder if it has splitscreen.  Probably not, nobody makes those anymore.
24-10-2018 23:12:37 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh, Velvet isn;t the protag?
24-10-2018 23:12:41 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: She is
24-10-2018 23:13:00 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You didn't start with the protag...?  Huh.
24-10-2018 23:13:03 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I mean Rokurou was the only compainion for a long time
24-10-2018 23:13:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Ahh.
24-10-2018 23:13:49 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Then I fight a good boss battle, they give me a magic child, few fights later, throw me edgy magic man
24-10-2018 23:14:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: If your one buddy is melee, and he expicitly stays out of your way, you still mostly play it like a brawler.
24-10-2018 23:15:14 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: But you can't control your party members.  Have you tried letting them die, and just not reviving them?
24-10-2018 23:15:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: But now these malaks evaporate all the enemies before I can.
24-10-2018 23:15:37 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: These cave enemies are really weak
24-10-2018 23:15:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I haven't been using healing items at all.
24-10-2018 23:15:58 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Lufia II let you drag around corpses, they'd still talk in cutscenes and everything, they'd just be laying dead in all fights.
24-10-2018 23:16:01 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: And yet stay at full HP, or near it
24-10-2018 23:16:09 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Difficulty slider?
24-10-2018 23:16:33 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Well, I'm already one above normal, and there's only one above that
24-10-2018 23:16:50 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: What's the worst that could happen?  Try it.
24-10-2018 23:17:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah
24-10-2018 23:18:30 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Why does s/he have an eyepatch?
24-10-2018 23:19:37 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: because I got an eyepatch item
24-10-2018 23:19:47 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Did anyone even take much of any damage?
24-10-2018 23:20:30 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Spiders certainly seemed tankier, but that seemed to just mean it took lon---hahahaha, coybow hat.
24-10-2018 23:20:48 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh, neat, you can make her dress sensibly.
24-10-2018 23:21:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh hai generic Zuko.
24-10-2018 23:21:33 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: That's what she wore in the intro part, before becoming a demon
24-10-2018 23:22:07 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I figure her turning into a demon just caused enough brain damage that this seems like a good outfit to her now
24-10-2018 23:22:16 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And everyone knows being possessed by a demon makes you want to expose cleavage down to the navel.
24-10-2018 23:22:23 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's the heat, you see.
24-10-2018 23:23:06 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "Prisoner Clothes" has her basically naked, doesn't it?
24-10-2018 23:23:09 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I can't use the villager one, her arm isn't even bandaged!
24-10-2018 23:23:37 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's almost like the devs knew their entire playerbase consists of hormonal young males!
24-10-2018 23:23:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: That got cut off and replaced with demon arm, so naturally now when it's not a demon arm it's just coated in bandages
24-10-2018 23:25:42 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: cowboy hat
24-10-2018 23:25:52 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You must leave that hat on him forever.
24-10-2018 23:26:03 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Huh, and now you're all healed.
24-10-2018 23:26:11 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: if you say so sir
24-10-2018 23:26:24 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: using BREAK SOUL heals you a bunch :V
24-10-2018 23:26:40 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and you can use it whenever you have over 2 souls :V :V :V
24-10-2018 23:26:43 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Could you please try to get one of them killed?  Pleeeease?  I vote for the mage kid, I'm betting s/he's the healer..
24-10-2018 23:27:03 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I lose grade if people get KOed!
24-10-2018 23:27:11 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: So what?
24-10-2018 23:27:40 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You aren't in middle school, what do you care about your grade?  Possess the kid directly and suicide them into spider bites.
24-10-2018 23:28:30 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Okay, it;s pretty funny to watch him run in terror from giant scorpions.
24-10-2018 23:29:00 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: But yeah, these AI are depressingly worthless.
24-10-2018 23:29:51 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ATTACK THE KID YOU IDIOT SCORPS
24-10-2018 23:30:08 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Like I said, possess them directly, so s/he'll stop fleeing.
24-10-2018 23:30:24 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And then they run away...
24-10-2018 23:30:39 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It is literally harder to lose than to win this.
24-10-2018 23:30:46 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: On the hardest difficulty.
24-10-2018 23:31:50 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...
24-10-2018 23:31:51 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "That was tougher than I would've liked"
24-10-2018 23:31:52 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yup
24-10-2018 23:32:17 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: well, these are trash mobs... in merely the FOURTH area of the game! yeah!
24-10-2018 23:32:29 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Cowboy Zuko is dual-wielding golden combat knives.
24-10-2018 23:32:42 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "Very vulnerable"
24-10-2018 23:33:04 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I am entirely certain he could've won that fight solo using only melee attacks, easily.
24-10-2018 23:33:13 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: What are you doing?  HEALING?
24-10-2018 23:33:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Next Fight I'm letting Velvet do Auto and I'll sit back and see how well I do.
24-10-2018 23:33:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: At least give the poor souls a CHANCE to die!
24-10-2018 23:33:53 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Okay then.
24-10-2018 23:33:55 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: no.
24-10-2018 23:34:48 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'm not sure, but I think her AI may have done better than you were doing.
24-10-2018 23:34:56 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: yeah, AI can handle this easy
24-10-2018 23:35:02 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Probably.
24-10-2018 23:35:23 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I wonder if the AI is limited to the combos you set up.
24-10-2018 23:35:39 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Maybe the devs wanted to make their game more like a VN, so they made it so easily you can set it to autopilot and win the game without doing anything more than clicking through dialogue.
24-10-2018 23:36:07 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: I could engage with this system a bunch more, but I literally don't have to.
24-10-2018 23:36:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Why does Velvet suddenly have 1 HP?
24-10-2018 23:36:20 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...
24-10-2018 23:36:39 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: oh, guess the AI let her demon mode run down her HP.
24-10-2018 23:36:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: That's annoying.
24-10-2018 23:36:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And she's still not dead.
24-10-2018 23:36:58 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Does she even need HP?
24-10-2018 23:37:29 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Like, what happens if she goes to zero?  Does it even do anything?
24-10-2018 23:37:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Well, any KOed character gets back up with 1HP at the end of combat.
24-10-2018 23:37:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Also I have mid-combat revive items :P
24-10-2018 23:38:03 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Ahhh, wow.  So even if you could kill off the other chars, they'd still be right back in at the start of every fight, at least until getting hit again.
24-10-2018 23:38:21 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Like I said way ago, demon mode drains your HP, but knocks you back into normal mode when you reach 1HP
24-10-2018 23:38:25 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: At least that would present some challenge, I guess?  If every char can only survive one hit, that would be difficult.
24-10-2018 23:38:54 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: and you automatically do the demon mode ending move, and it's super powerful because that move does more damage the less HP you have.
24-10-2018 23:39:23 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: See, that's neat and all, but it literally doesn't matter at all.
24-10-2018 23:40:01 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And this, this is literally acting like a shittier VN.
24-10-2018 23:40:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Charter portraits which only change in expression with text below.
24-10-2018 23:40:54 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh, he raised his hand, impressive.
24-10-2018 23:43:42 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: HP back up from 1 to near full because I pressed R2 a few times and the kid healed me
24-10-2018 23:43:51 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yep.
24-10-2018 23:44:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: So even if you did manage to reduce your whole party to 1 HP each, they'd just heal and remove the challenge.
24-10-2018 23:44:32 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Can you disable healing if you remove all healing spells from their comhos?
24-10-2018 23:44:54 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh, he turned around!
24-10-2018 23:45:18 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Nevermind what I said before, this is average for VNs intended to have quality.
24-10-2018 23:49:28 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Does Cowboy Zuko ever use the BFS on his back?
24-10-2018 23:50:36 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Like hell it would've.
24-10-2018 23:51:30 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: His bigass sword is never to be used, for reasons that he has not yet explained.
24-10-2018 23:52:16 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Did the devs just sort of follow a checklist when writing out the plot and characters?
24-10-2018 23:52:18 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: The magic kid is a magic spirit thingy, and he was bound to not have free will by an exorsist who I fought.
24-10-2018 23:52:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: That explains the name.
24-10-2018 23:52:42 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Are you sure it's a he?
24-10-2018 23:52:44 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: probably
24-10-2018 23:52:46 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Yes.
24-10-2018 23:53:13 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: They're still kind've asses for not giving it an actual name.
24-10-2018 23:53:28 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Maybe I'm just fucking overleveled?
24-10-2018 23:54:08 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: Velvet is a bit of a dick. Again, her only motivation is murdering the guy.
24-10-2018 23:54:34 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: There are no actual humans in the party, interestingly.
24-10-2018 23:54:43 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: two demons, two malaks
24-10-2018 23:54:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah, googling it, there's threads of people asking how to make the game hard.  And others saying that it's impossible.
24-10-2018 23:55:02 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: ...and you can tell which are which by their hair colors. hmm.
24-10-2018 23:55:20 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Both of which can be summed up as "They're humans, except entirely better aside from mental trauma which makes them edgy but no less human."
24-10-2018 23:56:45 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: mister big sword seems to be the obligatory not-edgy guy
24-10-2018 23:57:04 < ER!ER@63-39-173-041.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com: he's good-natured samurai dude