04-10-2018 02:13:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: actually, a disease that eats the other disease might be the solution in Driderverse. 04-10-2018 02:13:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: or just have sydney eat the plague. All of it. 04-10-2018 02:31:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: You were right, we should have taken gluttony. 04-10-2018 03:56:30 -!- midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.jku.lq has joined #einsteinianroulette 04-10-2018 04:00:23 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: hhhhhhhh 04-10-2018 04:02:57 -!- syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig has joined #einsteinianroulette 04-10-2018 04:03:13 -!- midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.jku.lq has quit [Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com] 04-10-2018 04:03:20 < * syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig peeks in 04-10-2018 04:03:32 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: hi 04-10-2018 04:03:40 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: Hi! 04-10-2018 04:04:38 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: How are you? 04-10-2018 04:05:00 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: i are 04-10-2018 04:06:05 -!- midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.jku.lq has joined #einsteinianroulette 04-10-2018 04:06:16 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: Intriuging. 04-10-2018 04:08:45 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I went and downloaded CDDA again, hopefully this version doesn't have me freeze to death on the first day every damn time 04-10-2018 04:09:47 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: That game's gotten pretty comvoluted. 04-10-2018 04:10:13 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: fancy! 04-10-2018 04:10:24 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: Can you still attach an assault rifle conversion to a charge rifle, and turn basic batteries into full-auto nukes? 04-10-2018 04:10:51 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I mean, when I play it it's mostly a dying cold and alone simulator, so the excessive deepness doesn't bother me much :V 04-10-2018 04:12:54 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: I consider the "Dying cold and alone" to be part of the intense deepitude. 04-10-2018 04:13:17 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.jku.lq: You get to die dynamically 04-10-2018 04:13:24 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I could boringly stream this if you like 04-10-2018 04:13:36 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: After all, you get the details of exactly which bodyparts are falling off due to frostbite. 04-10-2018 04:13:49 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: Nah. 04-10-2018 04:13:54 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.jku.lq: Busy 04-10-2018 04:22:20 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: this seems like a *great* character! 04-10-2018 04:23:50 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: hmm 04-10-2018 04:23:56 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: ? 04-10-2018 04:24:05 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: start in a room with a suit of plate armor :P 04-10-2018 04:24:13 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: Nice. 04-10-2018 04:29:11 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: wielding j - mace 04-10-2018 04:29:40 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I'm now a maid wearing a steel helmet and holding a mace 04-10-2018 04:29:44 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: groovy 04-10-2018 04:29:58 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: And plate mail? Where's the maid come in? 04-10-2018 04:30:09 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: what I started as? 04-10-2018 04:30:29 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: and I'm not putting on that plate mail just yet, shit's heavy :V 04-10-2018 04:31:26 -!- midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.jku.lq has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04-10-2018 04:31:43 -!- midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.jku.lq has joined #einsteinianroulette 04-10-2018 04:37:02 -!- midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.jku.lq has quit [Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com] 04-10-2018 04:40:09 -!- midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.jku.lq has joined #einsteinianroulette 04-10-2018 04:51:22 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: ho hiz 04-10-2018 04:51:35 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: that zombie was holding a toolbox! 04-10-2018 04:51:46 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: a toolbox with TOOLS in it! 04-10-2018 04:52:29 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: Wow. 04-10-2018 04:52:48 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: This game sounds like it's going great. Do you have drugs and books yet? 04-10-2018 04:52:57 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: nah 04-10-2018 04:53:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: heyo. 04-10-2018 04:53:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: was away for a bit. 04-10-2018 04:53:25 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: but it seems that a mace is enough to kill normal zombies one by one even with no melee skills 04-10-2018 04:53:43 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: 7 str 12 dex 04-10-2018 04:53:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: You have trouble with freezing to death on day one? 04-10-2018 04:53:54 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: Yeah, actual melee weapons make for good melee weapons, who knew? 04-10-2018 04:54:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: wear ALL the clothes. ;-p 04-10-2018 04:54:39 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I can tell that clearing this mansion of zombies will take a while, though 04-10-2018 04:55:05 < * Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net remembers toolboxes just counting as a pile of tools. 04-10-2018 04:55:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: did they change that? 04-10-2018 04:55:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: And actual plate mail or the decorative stuff? 04-10-2018 04:55:22 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: and THIS zombie held a cash card with $400 on it... 04-10-2018 04:57:00 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: Junk food! 04-10-2018 04:57:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: glorious junk food. 04-10-2018 04:57:57 < * Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net should pick up that game where I was going for the champion alcoholic. 04-10-2018 04:58:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: I think I was up to a level 13 addiction or something like that. 04-10-2018 04:58:44 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: Katia? 04-10-2018 04:58:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Yeah. 04-10-2018 04:59:05 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: ...that zombie with the toolbox was apparantly wearing a dress and flip-flops 04-10-2018 04:59:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: maybe she died and I forgot or something. 04-10-2018 04:59:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: it was at the point where I'd end each day wasted. 04-10-2018 05:01:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ft954vXPa4 04-10-2018 05:04:42 < AoshimaMichio!sirlancelo@ljmekp.muut.paitsi.mina.huijaa.net: and so begins another day in work 04-10-2018 05:05:37 < AoshimaMichio!sirlancelo@ljmekp.muut.paitsi.mina.huijaa.net: with weird videos 04-10-2018 05:06:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Heya Aoshi. 04-10-2018 05:06:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Come to a decision? 04-10-2018 05:06:54 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: That vid is awesome. 04-10-2018 05:07:21 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I found... a broom! 04-10-2018 05:07:29 < AoshimaMichio!sirlancelo@ljmekp.muut.paitsi.mina.huijaa.net: dev, yea nay 04-10-2018 05:07:55 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I hope that I'll be able to locate all this dank loot once I find a use for it all :P 04-10-2018 05:08:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Yeah, that deer did something I thought only cats could do. 04-10-2018 05:08:14 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: maybe should carry all the good stuff to one room... 04-10-2018 05:08:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Make horrible mistakes and act like they intended to do exactly that. 04-10-2018 05:09:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Okay, no worries. 04-10-2018 05:09:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Only slightly disappointed. Would have been neat having someone wish for magic powers at low favor and suffer horrible consequences. 04-10-2018 05:10:34 -!- midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.jku.lq has quit [Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com] 04-10-2018 05:11:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Hmm, wasn't there another roguelike that was inteded as a dying cold and alone simulator? 04-10-2018 05:11:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Something about an iron age setting? 04-10-2018 05:15:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: I think PW is handling magic powers in CULT with a word cap. 04-10-2018 05:16:16 -!- midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.jku.lq has joined #einsteinianroulette 04-10-2018 05:16:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Hmm, I wonder what you could do with, say, a 3 word limit. 04-10-2018 05:16:52 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: well, having gotten off to a shockingly good start with this maid run, probably should go to bed 04-10-2018 05:17:31 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: this is a maid wearing a steel helm, carrying a mace, probably covered in blood 04-10-2018 05:17:49 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: pulping zombies in a dark basement 04-10-2018 05:17:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: sadly not DF. 04-10-2018 05:18:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: where you'd get to see how many different kinds of blood. 04-10-2018 05:18:39 < AoshimaMichio!sirlancelo@ljmekp.muut.paitsi.mina.huijaa.net: what you are playing, ER? 04-10-2018 05:18:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: What did you call your maid? 04-10-2018 05:18:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead. 04-10-2018 05:19:23 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I hit random till I got something pleasant 04-10-2018 05:19:51 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: ah, Kathern Peacock 04-10-2018 05:20:26 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: "Pleasant" 04-10-2018 05:22:18 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: something like that 04-10-2018 05:25:42 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: beeeeeep 04-10-2018 05:25:45 -!- ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04-10-2018 05:26:53 -!- midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.jku.lq has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04-10-2018 06:06:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: "Pheasant", clearly. 04-10-2018 06:44:22 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: Frozen Synapse 2 is terrihle. 04-10-2018 06:48:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: of course it is. 04-10-2018 06:49:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: you loved the first one, right? 04-10-2018 06:55:09 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: Ehh, not love, but it was good. Pretty unique, and I like tactical games. 04-10-2018 06:55:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: That's even worse. 04-10-2018 06:55:40 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: This, though, this is bad because it's half of an amazing game. 04-10-2018 06:55:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: It had something that you deeply enjoyed, and it's not there. 04-10-2018 07:01:58 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: It... largely is, though. The tactical game is the same, aside from the AI being far more incompetent. It's just that everything *else* is broken, 04-10-2018 07:03:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: ahh. 04-10-2018 07:05:52 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: There's now a melee knife unit. It has no gun, is very fast, and very cheap. But using it is very difficult, because it has to run *through* an enemy to kill them, and has no command like "charge at t=nearest enemy". You have to put it in the exact spot an enemy will be by the time your knife guy gets there. Even that wouldn't be terrible, but the AI typically makes insane movements that are neae impossible to predict, 04-10-2018 07:06:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: That sounds terrible. 04-10-2018 07:06:39 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: The knife is a neat idea that could be cool. But, it's just realized so terribly that it's worthless, and detracts from the game if you use it. So much of the new stuff is like that. 04-10-2018 07:07:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Heh. 04-10-2018 07:08:13 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: There's a bunch of new units, but a lot of them follow a basic progression of strict improvement (Pistol < SMG < Machinegun < Scoped Machinegun), and most of the really neat new classes are just inferior to old stuff. There's flamethrowers! But there's very few situations where you'd want one instead of a shotgun. 04-10-2018 07:09:27 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: You can get smoke grenades! But the utility of a *normal* grenade is so great that you generally shouldn't waste your time. Maybe take a smoke if there will be wide lanes with enemy snipers... but you can't preview what the enemy area looks like, and need to be rich to see what units they have. 04-10-2018 07:10:30 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: There's rocket launchers that can bust down walls! But they can't open buildings in lockdown until you've picked the doorlocks. You can't blow up the wall next to the door until you've unlocked the door. Yes. 04-10-2018 07:11:21 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: On that note, ENEMIES CAN'T UNLOCK THEIR OWN DOORS. There's soldiers inside most locked rooms, but they can't get out, or shoot out, until YOU open the doors. 04-10-2018 07:13:35 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: Spawning is fucked sideways, half the missions I've played where I manually set it up, it changed the spawns somehow. Swap the locations of my sniper and grenadier, yes, thank you. And if you don't set up manual spawns (preemptively--there's no choice to only do it once you've confirmed that the location will be attacked), it's random, and you can have a guy standing in the middle of the street with three guns pointed at 04-10-2018 07:15:20 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: Missions are all insane. Periodically, factions will beg you to attack another faction. If you refuse, they dock your pay. If you accept, the target docks your pay. If you don't kill *everything* in the target, you fail and get docked by both. Unless, of course, you killed the enemy faction leader in the process, in which case your employer still considers you to have failed in disrupting operations and will dock you, 04-10-2018 07:16:31 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: All troops regenerate a few in-game hours after death, no matter where or how they died. Send six people into the heat of enemy territory, and get them blown up by rockets? No worry, you'll have them back for free in four hours! 04-10-2018 07:16:46 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: Just... gaahhh. That rant 04-10-2018 07:16:57 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: 's not ven half of the flaws, it's crazy. 04-10-2018 07:48:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: glorious. 04-10-2018 07:49:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: It's like me and XCOM. 04-10-2018 07:49:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: good luck. 04-10-2018 07:49:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Is it still fixable, or is it forever hooped at this point? 04-10-2018 07:50:00 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: They'll probably patch it. 04-10-2018 07:50:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Or sell the patch as DLC. 04-10-2018 07:50:21 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: I can't see them fixing everything, though. They never completely fixed their FIRST game. 04-10-2018 07:50:36 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: Meh. If they do that I'll pirate the patch, same as the actual game. 04-10-2018 07:51:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: I wonder if it's stealth copy protection. 04-10-2018 07:51:29 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: ? 04-10-2018 07:51:39 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: Oh, as in the game's broken because I pirated it? 04-10-2018 07:52:10 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: No, the reviews about it were pretty bad too, though they still understated it. 04-10-2018 07:52:34 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: If it is copy protection, they put too much work into breaking their already-broken game. 04-10-2018 07:52:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Is it in Mostly Positive territory or Mixed? 04-10-2018 07:52:56 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: Mixed. 04-10-2018 07:53:15 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: I.E. "Terrible, or somehow political". 04-10-2018 07:55:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Mmm. 04-10-2018 07:56:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Is there anything below mixed? 04-10-2018 07:57:33 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: ...Unsure, let me check. 04-10-2018 07:57:53 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: "Mostly Negative" and "Negative". 04-10-2018 07:58:15 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: No "Very Negative" or "Overwhelmingly Negative", oddly. 04-10-2018 07:58:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Lemme guess, terrible AND political. 04-10-2018 07:58:41 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: Oh, wait, no. Those do exist, 04-10-2018 08:01:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: ok. 04-10-2018 08:11:40 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: Apparently, statistically speaking, more than 50% of games are rated "Very Positive" or higher. And Steam's ranking system doesn't really sort by percentage past that bucket, going by other metrics. So the only rank that usefully tells you a game is good is "overwhelmingly positive". And even then, from experience I know YMMV. 04-10-2018 08:12:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Good old 9-10 rating scale, that is. 04-10-2018 08:15:24 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: Yep. 04-10-2018 08:15:33 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: You'd think people would learn. 04-10-2018 08:17:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Better that way. 04-10-2018 08:17:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: fewer hurt feelings if all reviews are positive. 04-10-2018 08:19:52 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: I don't think feelings come into it. At worst, it's done deliberately because it sells better. I don't think that's it, though, I think it's just incompetence. 04-10-2018 08:21:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: No reason for Steam to care. 04-10-2018 08:36:27 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig: Yup. 04-10-2018 10:21:20 -!- syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:srph:phrv:igps:lusq:sqig has quit [Quit: Definitely a psyv.] 04-10-2018 19:06:27 -!- ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 04-10-2018 19:14:57 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Factions which are paying your bills giving you missions to fight other factions which are paying your bills and getting mad when you choose not to is weird, but seems intended. 04-10-2018 19:15:28 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: It's an unusual way to make you pick sides, but that's what it is. 04-10-2018 19:48:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Heya ER. 04-10-2018 19:48:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: It also makes no sense at all. 04-10-2018 19:49:50 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Well, everyone was like "hey, these 'sonata' assholes are a problem, let's put aside our differences and pool our money to fund an organization that can fight sonata!" 04-10-2018 19:50:39 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: and then later, they're like "jeez what are we paying these clowns for? Let's tell them to go kick in the teeth of [other faction] who are disrupting society!" 04-10-2018 19:51:50 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: and the poor player faction is like "b-but that's not our job" and they get mad and stop paying you. 04-10-2018 19:52:21 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: and they're power hungry so they go ahead and start fighting sonata themselves and taking the sweet artifacts. 04-10-2018 19:57:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: still seems silly. 04-10-2018 19:58:23 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: it's still odd from a game-balance point of view 04-10-2018 19:59:05 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: you start with a certain amount of income, and everyone's happy with you, and then gradually people decide you stop liking you can you lncome 04-10-2018 20:02:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: It seems odd from a story pov too, where they'd set up this independant group and only control you through funding. 04-10-2018 20:03:38 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: welp, that's basically how every x-com game works, though 04-10-2018 20:04:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Yeah, but that's x-com. 04-10-2018 20:04:20 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: especially Apocylipse, which this seems to be using as a model. 04-10-2018 20:08:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: What? 04-10-2018 20:08:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: in X-com, though, nobody hired you for specific missions. 04-10-2018 20:10:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Apoc had you funded by one group in particular. 04-10-2018 20:12:29 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: yes, but you're an independant group controlled only through funding 04-10-2018 20:13:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Yeah. Hence why you have the latitude to conduct yourself as you wish. 04-10-2018 20:14:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: If you've got a specific mission-based structure, then it isn't X-Com style. 04-10-2018 20:14:45 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: You're totally free to disregard those missions though. 04-10-2018 20:15:08 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: In fact you probably HAVE to, if you don't want half the city raiding your base. 04-10-2018 20:19:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Still a fixed structure, though. 04-10-2018 20:20:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net: Should be per-mission payments with some regular funds through development costs if it runs that way. 04-10-2018 20:26:22 -!- ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04-10-2018 22:31:57 -!- Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04-10-2018 22:32:02 -!- Devastator!chatzilla@hjak-8u1mj5lb9jnq4fekl347bv89s.ipv2.telus.net has joined #einsteinianroulette