23-09-2018 00:00:56 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: https://xkcd.com/1851/
23-09-2018 00:01:16 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: it's magnetohydrodynamics i don't have to explain shit
23-09-2018 00:05:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Heh.
23-09-2018 00:06:46 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: fuck it i'm making that my sig
23-09-2018 00:20:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: go for it.
23-09-2018 00:20:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Hmm, NJW's up late.
23-09-2018 01:03:51 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: "Somebody killed me, and I do *not* have time to be dead."
23-09-2018 01:17:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: heh.
23-09-2018 02:47:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: "millions of men are shooting each other, or blowing each other up, lighting each other on fire, and I'm thinking stealing a chicken is barbaric?"
23-09-2018 02:48:12 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: hmm
23-09-2018 02:48:17 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: world war?
23-09-2018 02:48:36 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: guess it could be just about any war, really...
23-09-2018 02:49:14 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: every war involves men doing terrible things to eahc other, and there's chickens... basically everywhere.
23-09-2018 02:50:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: from The Great War, during Operation Michael.
23-09-2018 02:50:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: The German spring offensive of 1918, where they achieve a breakthrough.
23-09-2018 02:51:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: "I cannot get my men out of this cellar without bloodshed."
23-09-2018 02:51:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: (wine cellar)
23-09-2018 02:52:39 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: well you have booze, and you have moderate protection against shells. What more could a soldier ask for?
23-09-2018 02:53:32 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: ...I hope you don't mind me adding a framework for magic-users in death plane, Dev. :P
23-09-2018 02:53:47 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: You're right that I'm often very pro-magic
23-09-2018 02:54:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Hmm?  I don't see why we couldn't set up realitites with 'magic' in them in death plane.
23-09-2018 02:54:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Just as long as it remains horrible and death-filled, I'm game.
23-09-2018 02:54:19 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Heh.
23-09-2018 02:55:15 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Also mention that some beings can do something to protect from the 1-Essence mortal smiting power, so that evil wizards can get big enough to be non-trivial for gods.
23-09-2018 02:55:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: radiation-eaters, otoh, will be sufficiently weird that I doubt magic will be very relevant to them.
23-09-2018 02:56:09 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Well, it's made pretty clear that "magic" is just a way to describe supernatural things, usually under the command of a mortal being.
23-09-2018 02:56:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Yeah, it's not something I'm that worried about.
23-09-2018 02:56:49 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Which means that what is or is not magic kinda depends on what you consider to be normal.
23-09-2018 02:57:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: I'll be a little worried if 'add magic' basically means it's trivial for your life forms to survive and worship you.. that is, ending the death-filled part of death plane.
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23-09-2018 03:01:08 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.jku.lq: That was quite the update for prequel
23-09-2018 03:01:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Yes.
23-09-2018 03:01:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Best result ever.
23-09-2018 03:01:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Katia saved by being slut-cat.  ;-p
23-09-2018 03:02:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Actually, in truth I had no idea what would happen next and how the next update would go down.
23-09-2018 03:02:02 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.jku.lq: I do wonder if it means that Katia is no longer eligible to be the protag of oblivion.
23-09-2018 03:02:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: syv said as much.  I've always been in the no camp, but I don't think this update guarantees that absolutely.
23-09-2018 03:02:55 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.jku.lq: Im still thinking she is, but then again I’m an optimist at heart.
23-09-2018 03:03:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: I'm not sure if that's the optimistic position.
23-09-2018 03:03:58 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.jku.lq: How so?
23-09-2018 03:04:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: will that be the best thing for her?
23-09-2018 03:04:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Will that lead to a better story?
23-09-2018 03:06:41 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: It is POSSIBLE to reach a fairly stable state in death plane, in fact I'm hoping for that eventually. I don't see how having magic users nessesarially is what's making that possible.
23-09-2018 03:07:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: "I make a worshipper who has the power to flatten vacuum and feed itself."
23-09-2018 03:07:29 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Yeah, you can't make things that just magically power themselves.
23-09-2018 03:07:40 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: There *has* to be some source.
23-09-2018 03:07:50 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.jku.lq: I’ve never actually played Oblivion so I’m not sure. But I feel as though the walkeing up in jail missing everything as a last act of everything going wrong and then becoming the eventually god like adventurer that is an elder scrolls protag would suit the series idea of ups and downs.
23-09-2018 03:08:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Is that what they've done to TES lore these days?
23-09-2018 03:08:41 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Making a world of magic things which stay alive by absorbing a source of mana isn't all too different from creating a world of not-magic things which stay alive by absorbing light.
23-09-2018 03:09:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: hmm, that boes well for rad eaters, because they're definately eating something with a theoretically limited supply.
23-09-2018 03:10:16 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Light needs to come from somewhere. Mana has to come from somewhere. Either of those can be ultimately powered by the only constant source here, but they both need that source.
23-09-2018 03:10:46 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.jku.lq: In Skyrim at least the player is pretty fucking strong by the end game.
23-09-2018 03:11:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Being a TES protag isn't a good end.
23-09-2018 03:11:11 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Take in the rays, turn essence into more radioactive rocks for your little bees
23-09-2018 03:11:13 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.jku.lq: How so?
23-09-2018 03:12:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Well, you don't get to retire, everyone who has ever seen you forgets you, and you vanish from the world shortly after you finish your 'job', so to speak.  Also, basically nothing you do specifically sticks.
23-09-2018 03:14:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: bees might be fun too.
23-09-2018 03:14:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Wouldn't be too hard to organize actual hive minds with bees to count as worshippers.
23-09-2018 03:14:51 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.jku.lq: Interesting point.
23-09-2018 03:16:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: It's not necessarily a horrible experience, but it is hard to say that it's a great thing long term.
23-09-2018 03:16:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Besides, clearly Gro-Upp is the Hero of Kvatch.
23-09-2018 03:16:58 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.jku.lq: Which is he again?
23-09-2018 03:17:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: The orc.
23-09-2018 03:17:58 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: buzz
23-09-2018 03:18:10 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@131.204.jku.lq: Ah righty
23-09-2018 03:18:11 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: bees on the mind, of course
23-09-2018 03:19:04 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: THAT would be a fun setup to mess with people's creations. :P
23-09-2018 03:19:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: bees?
23-09-2018 03:19:53 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: filling thier heads with illustrated-adventure-esque nonsense
23-09-2018 03:20:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Heh.
23-09-2018 03:20:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: living comic characters.
23-09-2018 03:21:29 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: suddenly all your minions start attempting to seduce any animate or inanimate object
23-09-2018 03:21:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: hmm?
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23-09-2018 03:36:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Thanks again for making the chav.
23-09-2018 03:37:06 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: No prob.
23-09-2018 03:38:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: I hope NJW updates soon.
23-09-2018 03:38:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: drunk combat should be fun.
23-09-2018 03:39:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: I'm not sure what the british equivalent of pabst blue ribbon is.
23-09-2018 03:42:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Heh, that's a short-lived state.
23-09-2018 03:42:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: "The Transcaucasian Federative Republic."
23-09-2018 03:43:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: lasted.. one month, four days.
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23-09-2018 03:50:24 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "Devastator: Is that what they've done to TES lore these days?"
23-09-2018 03:50:32 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's been a thing for awhile.
23-09-2018 03:50:50 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: hey syv
23-09-2018 03:51:11 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: don't tell syv that I said this, but I can't believe that worked.
23-09-2018 03:52:06 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: The Agent pretty much had control over Numidium; The Nerevarine killed Dagoth Ur and was capable of killing the Tribunal; The Hero of Kvatch literally *mantles* into a god; and The Dragonborn kills an aspect of Akatosh.
23-09-2018 03:52:16 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: https://youtu.be/JaWT1piemMs
23-09-2018 03:52:18 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: ello syv
23-09-2018 03:52:25 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hey, Jaggers.
23-09-2018 03:52:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: hello syv.
23-09-2018 03:52:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: The hero of kvatch mantles into a god?
23-09-2018 03:52:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Did they retcon the end of oblivion when I was not looking?
23-09-2018 03:53:14 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah.  Becomes Sheogorath, after Sheogorath becomes (and remains) Jyggalag.
23-09-2018 03:53:18 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: mandella! mandella! ;D
23-09-2018 03:53:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Wow, they did retcon it.
23-09-2018 03:53:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'm pretty sure you meet Sheogorath in Skyrim, and it essentially confirms this as canon.
23-09-2018 03:53:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Wow, that's horseshit.
23-09-2018 03:54:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: oh well, Skyrim basically shat all over the lore anyway, so not suprised to find that out too.
23-09-2018 03:54:34 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I rewrote one of the sections of the OP for death plane.
23-09-2018 03:54:46 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: was: 356 characters
23-09-2018 03:55:03 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: now: 6241 characters
23-09-2018 03:55:24 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: wonder if I overdid it...
23-09-2018 03:55:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: I think the only one of those that I'd agree with is the one about the Nerevarine.  He did mostly kill a once-elf demigod, but that wasn't that spectacular.. there were like 11 of them once, remember.
23-09-2018 03:55:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: (well, six.)
23-09-2018 03:56:05 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: oh yeah, still haven't included my mechanics for godly combat... maybe should be a new section for that, though.
23-09-2018 03:56:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: And I'm not counting Skyrim as canon.  ;-p
23-09-2018 03:57:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: (I did a LP of it for a bit over a year where I played as if dragons didn't exist.  It was a suprisingly defensable position.)
23-09-2018 03:59:56 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Well, you may not count Skyrim as canon, but it seems pretty clear to me that *Kazerad* does.  So if Katia does indeed become the hero of Kvatch, Katia will also go on to become Sheogorath.
23-09-2018 04:00:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Which is sad.
23-09-2018 04:00:35 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: For you.
23-09-2018 04:00:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: God, that makes both positions worse.
23-09-2018 04:00:42 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Goblin.
23-09-2018 04:00:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: (Sheogorath and the Hero of Kvatch.)
23-09-2018 04:00:59 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: GOBLIN.
23-09-2018 04:01:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: You can say that, but it doesn't mean anything.
23-09-2018 04:01:24 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/19th_Century_goblin_illustration.jpg
23-09-2018 04:01:43 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: I could see Katia becoming sheogorath, asssuming he's the madness guy
23-09-2018 04:01:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: He is indeed.
23-09-2018 04:01:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Well, he was the madness guy.
23-09-2018 04:02:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: but since he's apparently just some dude, he's a lot less impressive.
23-09-2018 04:02:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: (I was also dissapointed with his quest in Skyrim, as it had a bed in it, but you aren't allowed to sleep in beds owned by others in Skyrim.  I was wanting to get kidnapped by the dark brotherhood from an unreal dimension thingy.)
23-09-2018 04:03:26 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: hmm
23-09-2018 04:03:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Ugh, Blades being dragonslayers rather than badass secret agents.  That one sucked too.
23-09-2018 04:03:36 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: According to Shivering Isles, Sheogorath was originally the prince of order, Jyggalag, but grew too powerful and aggressive, so the other Princes captured him and cursed him into becoming the Prince of Madness.
23-09-2018 04:04:13 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: The Hero of Kvatch frees him from that and then mantles into the vacant position left by Sheogorath.
23-09-2018 04:04:14 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I should devise some IRC-runable futuristic tactics game, just so that I can run it with the frozen synapse soundtrack
23-09-2018 04:04:19 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: !
23-09-2018 04:04:24 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Frozen Synapse 2!
23-09-2018 04:04:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Heh.
23-09-2018 04:04:27 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: So EXCITE!
23-09-2018 04:05:07 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: excite? it's out already~
23-09-2018 04:05:27 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yes, but this comp doesn't have the POWER for it.
23-09-2018 04:05:43 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: not enough power for FS? huh
23-09-2018 04:05:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: So I need to aait until tomorrow.  And also finish up Sophia, I guess, though I really don't feel like it ATM.
23-09-2018 04:06:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: FS2, presumably.
23-09-2018 04:06:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: aait?
23-09-2018 04:06:40 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "wait", but typed in a hurry on a phone.
23-09-2018 04:07:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Pumsy's is good, though.
23-09-2018 04:07:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Let me read the building description again.
23-09-2018 04:07:56 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: FS2? I rember I saw a bit for it several years ago around when I first joined bay 12, but I can't rember why it's exciting
23-09-2018 04:08:29 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Frozen Synapse is the tactics game where you control every little movement of a small group of soldiers, in CQB combat.
23-09-2018 04:09:00 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's made notable because you can predict everything perfectly in five second increments before deciding what to do.
23-09-2018 04:10:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: The original was entirely set-pieces with no real agency or continuity for the player, beyond the individual tactical engagements, but in the sequel, you actually control an entire faction, and can choose which battles to fight with which units, in an effort to take over an entire procedurally-generated city.
23-09-2018 04:11:09 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, it's got a great cyberpunk soundtrack and looks really pretty, with lots of flashy lights and glowy bits.
23-09-2018 04:11:29 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: and how's the sequel difrrerent?
23-09-2018 04:11:35 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: Ah.
23-09-2018 04:11:39 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: Just saw that
23-09-2018 04:12:56 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, there's a ton more units, which is awesome, though I wonder how they'll be balanced.
23-09-2018 04:13:09 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Important: it lets you simulate the result of your orders perfectly, but you have to give the ENEMY soldiers their own orders in the simulation, depending on what you THINK they're going to do.
23-09-2018 04:13:48 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: So a lot of the game revolves around coming up with strategies the enemy might employ, and give those orders.
23-09-2018 04:14:08 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It very frequently turns into a game of "I-think-you-know-that-I-know-that-you-know-that-I-know-that-you-know"
23-09-2018 04:14:35 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: ....If this was multiplayer it sounds like it would be hilarious :p
23-09-2018 04:14:45 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Unless you're fighting AI, in which case once you learn how the AI thinks, you can go rambo with two units and kill twenty, which just feels *so* awesome.
23-09-2018 04:14:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It is multiplayer.
23-09-2018 04:14:58 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ER and I play on occasion.
23-09-2018 04:14:59 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: And FS2 apparantly has a nightmare mode where the AI spies on your own orders BEFORE coming up with it's own, so you NEED to outplay them to such a degree that there's no way for them to win.
23-09-2018 04:15:06 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: !
23-09-2018 04:15:11 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: AWESOME.
23-09-2018 04:15:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: You know, maybe we should just wait for the unicorn to walk to the other side of the building.
23-09-2018 04:16:20 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: hmm. FS1 isn't much cheaper than FS2
23-09-2018 04:16:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: I don't know if the feature for the city-based faction campaign is any better.
23-09-2018 04:17:05 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: x-com apocaplypse though
23-09-2018 04:17:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Although that nightmare mode might be interesting, as it means you'll have to play the AI two moves ahead.
23-09-2018 04:17:10 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ^
23-09-2018 04:17:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Apoc wasn't terrible, but wasn't that great.
23-09-2018 04:17:31 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: wasn't *finished*
23-09-2018 04:17:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Real-time, and it was fairly unbalanced.
23-09-2018 04:17:52 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Frozen Synapse is amazingly balanced, and is the best time.
23-09-2018 04:18:20 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: I wish apoc had been finished before it was realsed
23-09-2018 04:18:34 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: It could have been really cool
23-09-2018 04:19:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: you can play Apoc in turn-based, syv.
23-09-2018 04:19:28 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Thought it only made it worse, due to being largely designed for real-time.
23-09-2018 04:19:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: It's arguable.
23-09-2018 04:20:05 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Is anything not?
23-09-2018 04:21:35 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Point: Made.
23-09-2018 04:21:38 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: You know, I've always kinda wanted a real time strategy game where you play as an AI, and you can pause time the "resource" of your clock speed.
23-09-2018 04:21:39 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: Humans contain carbon
23-09-2018 04:21:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Yeah, there's stuff that's not arguable.
23-09-2018 04:22:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Wasn't there that time-travel game, ER?
23-09-2018 04:22:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Did anything ever come of that?
23-09-2018 04:22:27 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: While playing in real time, you have a "cycles" bar which fills up, and you can slow or pause time and the meter goes down.
23-09-2018 04:22:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: MJ: Actually, humans are just a simulation in a computer purely made from magnetic waves.
23-09-2018 04:22:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: "There is stuff that exists."
23-09-2018 04:22:52 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: But they would still contain simulated carbon in the simulation
23-09-2018 04:22:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: "There is stuff that is arguable."
23-09-2018 04:23:04 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: And your units would be drones and you could improve their accuracy and stuff by lending them some of your own cycles.
23-09-2018 04:23:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Euclidean Geometry is based on the five postulates of Euclid.
23-09-2018 04:23:21 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: Apperentlly gollop is makeing a new game
23-09-2018 04:23:23 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Dev: Depends on your definitions of stuff, and existence.
23-09-2018 04:23:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: In order to argue about that, you must have something with which to argue over.
23-09-2018 04:23:56 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: MJ: No, the simulation merely tells us that we're made of simulated carbon when we look, but we're actually made of Helium kittens.
23-09-2018 04:24:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: If nothing exists, you cannot make an argument, as an argument is something.
23-09-2018 04:24:10 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Dev: I have proved that wrong many times.
23-09-2018 04:24:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: So is a proof.
23-09-2018 04:25:20 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, an argument isn't anything, it doesn't actually exist.  We talk about it like it exists, but you can't touch an argument.
23-09-2018 04:25:36 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: But does it matter if it's actually kittens if they are completelly imperecetable when any human being looks? Therfore suggesting that they are carbon and behaves like carbon
23-09-2018 04:25:56 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: aaaaand you should be able to set your drones threshold for how sure they are they're going to hit before firing. If it's all the way down they'll spray bullets at any enemy they see until they hit, and it's all the way up they'll ONLY fire with a 100% chance.
23-09-2018 04:26:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: There may actually be real carbon that isn't kittens, which is almost physically indistinguishable from kittens, but behaves slightly differently.
23-09-2018 04:26:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Huh, that's... different.
23-09-2018 04:27:04 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I kinda want to set a bunch of gunners to 0% just to watch the lights.
23-09-2018 04:27:06 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: nothing is true, especially this statement
23-09-2018 04:27:33 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: But that would just be an isotope of the carbon kittens
23-09-2018 04:27:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Can't you just do supressive fire?
23-09-2018 04:27:47 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I don't think vatforms can be suppressed.
23-09-2018 04:27:51 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: They're sods, basically.
23-09-2018 04:28:13 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: MJ: They're helium, though.
23-09-2018 04:28:27 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Well, you can make their puppet master decide it's not worth sending them round that corner.
23-09-2018 04:28:47 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: Helium carbon kittens
23-09-2018 04:28:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Should have a Frozen Synapse with kittens.
23-09-2018 04:28:52 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: Point still stands
23-09-2018 04:29:08 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: That your original point wasn't arguable?
23-09-2018 04:29:12 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I disagree.
23-09-2018 04:29:12 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: And what if you're an AI with drone units, but you're fighting a bunch of humans with their own chatotic and unpredictable emotional states?
23-09-2018 04:29:53 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: https://www.google.com/search?q=arguable+definition&rlz=1C1ASUM_enUS516US518&oq=arguable+&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.4551j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
23-09-2018 04:29:57 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: That is something.  I wonder if any of the enemies will be humans.  Some of the enemies in the original FS were stated to be humans, only semi-controlled thriugh the shape.
23-09-2018 04:30:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: You win because you have drones that are better than humans.
23-09-2018 04:30:20 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: I would be curious, if you can argue that stuff may or may not exsist
23-09-2018 04:31:12 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: meat glacier does not mean "harmless"
23-09-2018 04:32:27 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: DEV ASKED TO OUT THIS IN COMMON.
23-09-2018 04:32:32 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: (syv) https://www.deviantart.com/yukonix/art/F-L-U-E-R-739531971
23-09-2018 04:32:36 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: *Put
23-09-2018 04:33:11 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: .....why are her arms vaginas?
23-09-2018 04:33:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I think those are eyes.
23-09-2018 04:33:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I really don't know, though.
23-09-2018 04:33:58 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: That image only fills me with more questions every time I look at it.
23-09-2018 04:34:18 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: k
23-09-2018 04:34:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Gotta show it to PW next.
23-09-2018 04:36:09 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: The real question is what the fiction about that thing looks like.  The artist said that they drew that for reference in a story.
23-09-2018 04:36:12 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: ...and of course if you're using drones then elecronic warfare becomes relevent, and you could probably get around that problem by convincing or hiring humans to work for you, but you need to give them verbal instructions and they think slower than you.
23-09-2018 04:36:43 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: There was a lot of hacking in FS1's campaign.
23-09-2018 04:36:55 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: I'm fairly sure I would die of alcohol poisoning before I found that to be...cute in the way the author seems to be describing it.
23-09-2018 04:36:58 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Most of it by Belacqua, an AI.
23-09-2018 04:37:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: "You can only issue orders on alternate turns."
23-09-2018 04:37:06 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Hacking is fun, but jamming is also a thing.
23-09-2018 04:37:22 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Dev, there's a one-turn mode, where you can only issue orders once.
23-09-2018 04:37:25 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: ...why does she have two mouths, one of which is on her torso? That doesn't even make sense for any of the animalss
23-09-2018 04:37:45 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's like Quelaag!
23-09-2018 04:37:54 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: You must be using some sort of wireless connection to control your minions.
23-09-2018 04:37:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: They haven't invented words for that yet.
23-09-2018 04:38:16 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Maybe you could see laser based comms, that would be awesome.
23-09-2018 04:38:36 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Chop off the bottom half of a human, glue it to the top of a giant spider.
23-09-2018 04:38:56 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Still a better design.
23-09-2018 04:39:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: But that wouldn't have decorative wings!  Or arm vaginas.
23-09-2018 04:39:51 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I bet you those wings let her fly like an eagle.  Of course they do.
23-09-2018 04:40:04 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Human enemies set up radio jamming, so you need to make sure that your drones maintain constant line of sight leading back to your core so that you can command them via laser, all while the flesh sacks you're fighting are panicing and trying to hack you and stuff.
23-09-2018 04:40:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Nah, my bet is like a hummingbird.
23-09-2018 04:40:17 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: I bet she can hover.
23-09-2018 04:40:21 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I like that idea, ER.
23-09-2018 04:40:30 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Ugh, you're probably right, Dev.
23-09-2018 04:40:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: And then it gets foggy and you die.  ;-p
23-09-2018 04:40:52 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Now I just have to learn how to program RTS games, a genre that I hate!
23-09-2018 04:41:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Thinking of the Naomi Novik novels where she has giant dragons that can hover.
23-09-2018 04:41:04 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You're a predictive AI, you knew the weather would be clear.
23-09-2018 04:41:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...You hate RTS, ER? :(
23-09-2018 04:41:37 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Well, a lot of them I just don't care enough to learn to play right.
23-09-2018 04:41:38 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hovering dragons still makes more sense.
23-09-2018 04:41:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: It was really big.
23-09-2018 04:42:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: except for when that was inconvienent for the plot.
23-09-2018 04:42:24 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I'm pretty much fine with RTS with pausing, but their content often doesn't trill me.
23-09-2018 04:42:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: ..and yes, it still makes more sense.
23-09-2018 04:42:37 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: God the more I look at that the less sense it makes
23-09-2018 04:43:05 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: try eating a madman's knowledge
23-09-2018 04:43:12 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh, in the comments, there's two *other* people who apparently think it's cute.
23-09-2018 04:43:25 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Nobody insulting it, so good for the artist, I guess.
23-09-2018 04:43:34 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: The only way that could be weirder is if the human arms also had vaginas
23-09-2018 04:43:41 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: It's well drawn at least.
23-09-2018 04:43:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Those comments would be blocked if that happened, syv.
23-09-2018 04:43:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: ..no, it isn't well drawn.  The perspective is terrible.
23-09-2018 04:43:56 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: And the design is intresting if bizzare and eyegouging
23-09-2018 04:44:00 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I've decided not to view it. I'm probably one of the ones who'd find it cute, because everything is cute.
23-09-2018 04:44:02 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh?  I didn't know Deviantart had that.
23-09-2018 04:44:17 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: @MJ there's more under the gloves, I'll bet.
23-09-2018 04:44:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Nah, you won't find it cute, ER.
23-09-2018 04:44:32 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah, look at the reflection of the "floor".
23-09-2018 04:44:44 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: They couldn't even line up the legs.
23-09-2018 04:44:54 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And the pedipalps are different sizes.  And shapes.
23-09-2018 04:45:05 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...And, gah, everything about the art is bad.
23-09-2018 04:45:06 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: probably, for the weirdest handjob in the history of handjobs.
23-09-2018 04:45:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: There's no way someone hasn't written that fiction already.
23-09-2018 04:45:45 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: There's occasional shading, but every piece of shading manages to have its *own* light source.
23-09-2018 04:45:58 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I can assure you it exists.  Multiple different media, even. :\
23-09-2018 04:46:38 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: Huh, I must have very low standards for art.
23-09-2018 04:46:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: I've seen stuff worse drawn than that.
23-09-2018 04:46:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: much worse.
23-09-2018 04:47:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: but I wouldn't call that good.
23-09-2018 04:47:10 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: huh, your right, the reflections don't line up
23-09-2018 04:47:13 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: at all
23-09-2018 04:47:23 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Yes.  I've seen stick figures by toddlers that had very interesting ideas on the human body plan, and number of limbs.
23-09-2018 04:47:33 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It's better than that.  Vaugely.
23-09-2018 04:47:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: The toddler round body thing?
23-09-2018 04:47:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Apparently that's something developmentally related for humans.
23-09-2018 04:48:11 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I mean more like two arms on one side for no apparent reason.
23-09-2018 04:48:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: everyone in every culture does that.
23-09-2018 04:48:23 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Round body, too, but that's different.
23-09-2018 04:51:44 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Ohhh, the upper arms are supposed to be mantis claws.
23-09-2018 04:54:43 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: Huh, you know if you take the the drawing  out of the equation a multi insect combo would be good MP beast.
23-09-2018 04:55:26 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Sure.  Insects in general are a good source of alien designs, and hybridizing them can make them more terrifying, if you're careful.
23-09-2018 04:55:39 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: If you're not careful, well.  Some hybrids are just silly.
23-09-2018 04:56:20 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: Well of course
23-09-2018 04:56:34 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: I made a bear that was part saw part flamethrower. :P
23-09-2018 04:57:09 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Still manages to at least be partly badass.
23-09-2018 04:57:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: all bear.
23-09-2018 04:57:54 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: "Heat Signature will be one Space Year old next week, which as we all know is an Earth year plus six days. To celebrate, we're launching a big free update we've been working on for five months, and best of all it's not in any way six days late."
23-09-2018 04:58:45 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: That flbearsaw was a fun enemy
23-09-2018 04:59:01 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: no, that wasn't the name
23-09-2018 04:59:03 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: Damn it.
23-09-2018 04:59:10 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: I'll have to figure out what it was
23-09-2018 04:59:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Firefang.
23-09-2018 04:59:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Smoky.
23-09-2018 05:00:09 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "Flamesaw Bear"
23-09-2018 05:00:15 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: Nah it was a bizzare portmentua of flamethrower bear and buzz saw.
23-09-2018 05:00:40 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "Bezz flamesaw"?
23-09-2018 05:00:55 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: That sounds like a shitty fanfiction self-insert.
23-09-2018 05:01:28 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: beor
23-09-2018 05:01:31 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: That was it
23-09-2018 05:01:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: That's okay.
23-09-2018 05:01:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: shitty fanfic self-insert is sometimes the desired effect.
23-09-2018 05:02:34 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: Groo watches as the wall is lifted off his feet screaming YOU CAN’T BREAK THIS WALL....BUT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MOVE IT!
23-09-2018 05:02:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: So what happenes next in Prequel?
23-09-2018 05:03:15 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: I fucking loved writing
23-09-2018 05:03:17 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: MP
23-09-2018 05:04:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: In Prequel?  Sigrid points out that Katia is still in a cage, and she's still a powerful mage.  Then kills Katia.
23-09-2018 05:04:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: I don't see that happening.
23-09-2018 05:04:34 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: still an atronach
23-09-2018 05:04:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: ..yeah.
23-09-2018 05:04:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: More likely, she apologizes, gives Katia some free stuff, and boots her out the door while asking her to never tell anyone about this.
23-09-2018 05:04:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: and not wearing all the magic resistance gear.
23-09-2018 05:04:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Katia might actually win that fight.
23-09-2018 05:05:06 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "I'm an atronach, that gives me a 50% chance of surviving anything you throw at me!"
23-09-2018 05:05:07 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: She killed a demon didn't she?
23-09-2018 05:05:11 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: aaaand katia can still fling fire, and sigrid doesn't have magical protection any more
23-09-2018 05:05:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: She killed an imp.
23-09-2018 05:05:38 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "I'm not a magical cripple, and you don't healing magic, unliie myself, so I'll just keep throwing lightning at you until you die."
23-09-2018 05:05:42 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "..."
23-09-2018 05:05:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Or, IIRC, a "Greater Impmaster Murderboss."
23-09-2018 05:06:03 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: That was it
23-09-2018 05:06:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Katia's done lots of throwing fire about.
23-09-2018 05:06:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: If it comes to that, she could probably set the whole town on fire.
23-09-2018 05:06:29 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Imps don't get healing spells, and it was still throwing weak little flare spells rather than actually attacking her.
23-09-2018 05:06:51 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Katia can't oneshot Sigrid, and Sigrid can heal.
23-09-2018 05:07:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hell, Sigrid can probably silence her.  Might take a few tries, but it'll work.
23-09-2018 05:07:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: I don't know if she can outheal Katia's DPS.'
23-09-2018 05:07:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: and, silence doesn't work..
23-09-2018 05:07:32 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: ...
23-09-2018 05:07:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Katia's DPS is pretty sad, considering she has no magicka regen.
23-09-2018 05:08:02 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: We couldn't get out of this cage BEFORE sigrid showed up, murder is probably not a top option here
23-09-2018 05:08:02 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Silence DOES work against flare.  It doesn't work against untargeted fires, which won't help, and TK, which also won't help.
23-09-2018 05:08:51 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Ehh, if she actually managed to kill Sigrid (which she also can't do because Sigrid is alive in Oblivion), she'd be let out by Stephane before starving to death.
23-09-2018 05:09:38 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Also, like, seriously.  Sigrid is ridiculously high level in Oblivion, and from everything we've seen she's no weaker in Prequel.
23-09-2018 05:09:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Nah, she won't kill Sigrid, but she might scare sigrid if it came to a fight.  I'm sure she could set her on fire.
23-09-2018 05:09:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Isn't she at the standard rating for NPCs of Player +5?
23-09-2018 05:10:01 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Sigrid probably could have gone into Kvatch and killed all the daedra herself, no problem.
23-09-2018 05:10:17 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: No?  Ugh.  I'll go check.
23-09-2018 05:11:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Well, yeah, anyone could because they're levelled opponents..
23-09-2018 05:11:40 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh, no, level 10.  I must've confused her with one of the other refugees.  Still, that's nine levels on kitty.
23-09-2018 05:12:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: No way she's level 1.
23-09-2018 05:14:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: I'd guess she's at about level 4.
23-09-2018 05:15:22 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Doesn't the hero start at Level 1?
23-09-2018 05:15:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Katia is level 0.
23-09-2018 05:15:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Not that level *really* matters for the PC.
23-09-2018 05:15:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Yeah, it's better the lower it is.  ;-p
23-09-2018 05:16:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Actually, Katia could put on Sigrid's clothing.
23-09-2018 05:16:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: it's right there next to the bars and she does have instant-dressing power.
23-09-2018 05:16:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Then order sigrid around.
23-09-2018 05:17:02 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: I could see Katia being level 0
23-09-2018 05:17:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Okay, it was Oleta I was thinking of.  She's a priest at the chapel, and is level 40.  The highest level daedra that can spawn, no matter the players level, are level 22.
23-09-2018 05:17:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Nah, she's not level 0.  The only absolute oddity is that for some reason she seems to have zero luck, which makes her far more terrible at anything than she is on paper.
23-09-2018 05:18:12 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: She's also a master of restoration.
23-09-2018 05:19:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Any thoughts about Irony's new game?
23-09-2018 05:19:15 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: I haven't looked into it.
23-09-2018 05:19:44 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Nor have I.
23-09-2018 05:20:37 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I in it!
23-09-2018 05:20:41 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: birds!
23-09-2018 05:20:50 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Birds?
23-09-2018 05:20:56 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: biiiiiirds
23-09-2018 05:20:58 < * syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr 's interest sharply declines
23-09-2018 05:21:19 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: well okay
23-09-2018 05:21:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: It's wizards in straight RTD, but you get a bonus basically related to one word.
23-09-2018 05:21:48 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Heh, in Oblivion, the levelup message for restoration is: "The secret energies of the human body have not surrendered their mysteries easily to you."
23-09-2018 05:22:09 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: So not that helpful for beastfolk.
23-09-2018 05:22:25 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Can your word be "magic"?
23-09-2018 05:23:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Maybe.  I think someone wanted metamagic.
23-09-2018 05:26:49 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Huh, if you start with Conjuration as a major skill, which the witch hunter class does, you also start with the spells "Summon skeleton", and "turn undead".
23-09-2018 05:27:01 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: So Katia might keep that skeleton summoning ability.
23-09-2018 05:28:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Mysticism as a starting skill gets you "minor dispel" and "minor life detection".
23-09-2018 05:28:43 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Um no, what dev just described is not a mechanic in Irony's latest game at all
23-09-2018 05:29:02 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Minor dispel only works on self, though.
23-09-2018 05:30:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Yeah... pick your type of magic, and it can be basically any one word.
23-09-2018 05:38:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: It's not exactly the same, but it isn't that different.
23-09-2018 05:38:58 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: It's very different from what you said
23-09-2018 05:39:06 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Fight!  Fight!
23-09-2018 05:39:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Describe it, then.
23-09-2018 05:39:54 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: you have one skill at +5 and two skills at +3 and those skills can be basically anything that could reasonably be a skill.
23-09-2018 05:40:11 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "Casting magic"?
23-09-2018 05:40:18 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Hopefully magic, because otherwise you'll be left out of everyone exploding.
23-09-2018 05:40:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: "Indestructability."
23-09-2018 05:40:46 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Is it straighr RTD like Mainpiston, where +5 meant you would almost always explode?
23-09-2018 05:40:52 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: that's... not a skill you goblin
23-09-2018 05:41:03 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: How does one become skilled at indestructibility, Dev?
23-09-2018 05:41:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: 100 sit ups.
23-09-2018 05:41:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: 100 push ups
23-09-2018 05:41:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: 100 squats
23-09-2018 05:41:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: and a 10 km run.
23-09-2018 05:41:23 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: no, it's STRIGHT rtd, higher skill lets you DO more things with your actions
23-09-2018 05:41:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: every single day.
23-09-2018 05:41:38 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: skill does not change chances of success in the slightest.
23-09-2018 05:41:57 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: so you explode ER?
23-09-2018 05:42:16 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: straight rtd + magic usually means explosions, yes.
23-09-2018 05:43:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: 'exploding'
23-09-2018 05:43:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: 'mad science'
23-09-2018 05:43:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: 'mad wizardry.'
23-09-2018 05:48:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: "Tranmutation" "Time Magic" "Abiogenesis."
23-09-2018 05:49:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Should be fun.
23-09-2018 05:50:22 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: @ER straight RTD normally has rolls above 6 be increasingly more powerful overshots,
23-09-2018 05:50:52 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: So +5 to "summoning lasers" is grest for blowing up the moon, but bad for performing eye surgery.
23-09-2018 05:51:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: So what have you gotten up to with crow magic, ER?
23-09-2018 05:52:52 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Straight RTD meaning no numerical bonuses
23-09-2018 05:54:06 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: +5 isn't "add 5 to your roll", it's "your action involving this can have 5 different aspects"
23-09-2018 05:54:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: summon crow.  Enhance the number of crows x 4.
23-09-2018 05:58:02 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: Alright, I'm going to bed.
23-09-2018 05:58:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: ok.
23-09-2018 05:58:10 < MidJag!midjag@131.204.loi.hk: good night
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23-09-2018 05:58:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: good night.
23-09-2018 06:40:09 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: i would say something clever but I'm pretty tired
23-09-2018 06:41:12 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I would say something clever but I'm not clever.
23-09-2018 06:41:35 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: are you tired?
23-09-2018 06:42:10 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: That too, yeah.
23-09-2018 06:42:53 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Then I have a leg up on you, because I'm definately clever!
23-09-2018 06:43:07 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: just, you know, not right now
23-09-2018 06:43:18 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: it's situational, you know how it is
23-09-2018 06:43:58 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yeah.
23-09-2018 07:17:07 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: ay
23-09-2018 07:17:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: lmao
23-09-2018 07:17:24 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: my body hurts some, I'm going to rest it
23-09-2018 07:17:57 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: send me any questions at gaben at valve software dot com
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23-09-2018 07:18:06 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Goo-
23-09-2018 07:18:08 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Damn it.
23-09-2018 07:18:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: heh.
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23-09-2018 17:22:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: test0?
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23-09-2018 20:44:07 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: forums down?
23-09-2018 20:50:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Seemed to be down earlier.
23-09-2018 20:50:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Yeah, look like they're still down.
23-09-2018 20:55:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: looks.
23-09-2018 22:43:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: still down, hmm.
23-09-2018 22:44:58 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: still closed! still closed! hmm. hmmmmmmm.
23-09-2018 22:48:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: I'm late!
23-09-2018 22:48:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: I'm late!
23-09-2018 22:57:02 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Heh.
23-09-2018 22:58:01 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Heat Signature has a special enemy now, where if you step inside a certain radius of them, they'll instantly detect you, teleport to you, and stab you.
23-09-2018 22:58:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: so.. can you put your back to the wall and stab at the same time you step into range, and win that way?
23-09-2018 22:59:03 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: It specifies that shields won't help you because their blade is already inside you the moment they teleport.
23-09-2018 22:59:14 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: So that's mautual at best.
23-09-2018 22:59:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: aww.
23-09-2018 22:59:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: So why teleport the enemy instead of just teleporting knives inside other people?
23-09-2018 23:10:24 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: They're basically doing that, and you can basically do that
23-09-2018 23:15:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: oh good.
23-09-2018 23:40:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@myjc-5z9wd4zi6xkk23sjb08d4yjq7.ipv1.telus.net: Still down.  I hope it won't be down for too long.