09-09-2018 00:36:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: "… in a moment straight out of FE6, a gigantic barbarian army just popped up from the middle of a lake surrounded by my cities."
09-09-2018 03:36:32 -!- syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr has joined #einsteinianroulette
09-09-2018 03:36:42 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Shoopdawoop.
09-09-2018 03:36:51 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: hi
09-09-2018 03:37:56 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: hello
09-09-2018 03:38:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Heya syv.
09-09-2018 03:39:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Is it okay asking Asha to wound Alida for soul?
09-09-2018 03:39:07 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Heya dev.
09-09-2018 03:39:12 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Sure.
09-09-2018 03:39:46 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Try and phrase it carefully, though.  Asking her to cripple you or something is unlikely to get success.
09-09-2018 03:40:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Okay.
09-09-2018 03:42:40 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I decided to crawl around the darkest dungeon wiki for that dank lore
09-09-2018 03:42:50 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Oh?  And?
09-09-2018 03:42:54 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: it's good lore :P
09-09-2018 03:43:04 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yep.
09-09-2018 03:43:09 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: dank.
09-09-2018 03:43:18 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I STILL haven't finished that game.
09-09-2018 03:43:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Of course, if she did cripple me that would be fine, heh.
09-09-2018 03:43:24 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I've seen the ending cutscene, and I quite like it.
09-09-2018 03:44:07 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Maybe I'll finish it tonight.  There anything either of you want out of me tonight?
09-09-2018 03:44:30 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: hmm
09-09-2018 03:44:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Just the usual discussion nonsense, nothing urgent.
09-09-2018 03:45:34 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I spent most of my time reading all of the hero barks for various afflictions. There's a lot of them, some some are excellent.
09-09-2018 03:46:21 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: They wrote lines for each specific hero, for each specific affliction, for each specific scenario where that affliction comes into play.
09-09-2018 03:46:39 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: and each of those categories has MULTIPLE lines for it
09-09-2018 03:47:41 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Seems entirely reasonable to me, I usually find it weird how *few* custom lines NPCs get in text-only games.
09-09-2018 03:48:05 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Writing a bunch of reaction statments for a specific personality is relatively simple.
09-09-2018 03:48:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: , if tedious.
09-09-2018 03:48:44 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: yeah, there's a lot more variety there compared to the shit the ancestor says
09-09-2018 03:48:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: It's reading and re-reading all the dialogue to do that which makes it tedious.
09-09-2018 03:49:00 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: not that the ancestor lacks in variety himself!
09-09-2018 03:49:39 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: The Ancestor himself has to voice each line multiple times, carefully, after they're all written up, so it makes sense that he has less variety.
09-09-2018 03:49:52 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: But yeah, writing all that in a text game isn't impossible, if only because writers are cheaper than voiceacters
09-09-2018 03:50:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: That might not be the case anymore.
09-09-2018 03:50:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: at least for good writers.
09-09-2018 03:50:25 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: indie writers, then ;p
09-09-2018 03:50:28 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: @Dev Sure, if the bark-writers are different from the main writer.  But if you have one person who came up with the chars, and is making the barks?  Not much effort to have the writing fit.
09-09-2018 03:50:43 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Good voice actors are more expensive than good writers.
09-09-2018 03:51:19 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And, even if they weren't, quality dialogue requires both a good writer AND a good VA.
09-09-2018 03:51:22 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: though you don't have to try very hard to find BAD writers OR voice actors
09-09-2018 03:52:04 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Start PMing FF.net authors "Hey, you want to be paid to write me a bunch of gobbeldygook?"
09-09-2018 03:52:05 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: DD has good and not lazy writing, is what I'm saying.
09-09-2018 03:52:43 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: and also good and not lazy voice acting, made possible by just having one guy do it really well.
09-09-2018 03:53:17 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Decent writing, downright AMAZING voice acting.
09-09-2018 03:53:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: https://lparchive.org/Civilization-2/Update%2032/97-12_85.5_Gravestone.png
09-09-2018 03:54:14 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: speaking of decent writing, I haven't done anything productive today!
09-09-2018 03:54:27 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: He's supposed to have down HPL audiobooks, I really have to wonder how good those are.  If they're an equivalent quality to his work on DD, I imagune they'd actually improve the books.
09-09-2018 03:54:32 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Neither have I!
09-09-2018 03:54:52 < * syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr raises his hand for a high-five
09-09-2018 03:55:07 < * ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com high fives
09-09-2018 03:55:13 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Uselessness!
09-09-2018 03:55:17 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: yay
09-09-2018 03:55:38 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I consumed resources!
09-09-2018 03:56:03 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I breathe o2 and turn it into co2!
09-09-2018 03:56:43 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Making sure plants don't asphyxiate.
09-09-2018 03:58:13 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I should breathe harder and kill off all the animals and let plants take over the world
09-09-2018 03:58:35 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Aww
09-09-2018 03:58:36 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: then a few million year later, high o2 levels and megafauna!
09-09-2018 03:58:42 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: That would mean no cats or spiders.
09-09-2018 03:59:08 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Hmm.  I think birds would die before them, though, so maybe it wouldn't be all bad.
09-09-2018 04:01:35 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: whateva heterotrophs drool lol
09-09-2018 04:02:37 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Some plants are heterotrophs too.
09-09-2018 04:03:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Lichen would survive.
09-09-2018 04:04:36 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Lichen consists of solidified soul matter created by the efforts of archmages who sought to transcend mortality.
09-09-2018 04:04:59 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It survives most everything.
09-09-2018 04:05:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: While simultaneously being incredibly fragile.
09-09-2018 04:06:22 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: frikkin organisims how do they work
09-09-2018 04:14:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: magic man, magic.
09-09-2018 04:15:51 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Specifically, the Magic Man's Magic makes them work.
09-09-2018 04:16:02 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Gotta love triple M.
09-09-2018 04:21:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Heh.
09-09-2018 04:45:47 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: dammit, I just had a weird philosophical throught about choice, because of ice cream bars
09-09-2018 04:46:02 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ???
09-09-2018 04:46:11 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I like weird philosophy.  Please share?
09-09-2018 04:46:45 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: so i open the freezer to get an ice cream, and there's three of them left. two of one kind, and one of the other kind.
09-09-2018 04:47:22 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: so I grab the flavor that has two left, so the next person who comes along has a choice of flavors
09-09-2018 04:48:08 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: so the question is: did I maximise the number of choices that everyone gets to make, or just give my oppertunity to make a choice to someone else?
09-09-2018 04:49:14 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: if I choose the first type, I make a choice, and the next person gets to make a choice too. if I pick the second one, I make a choice but the next person doesn't get a chance to excersice their preference.
09-09-2018 04:49:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: A, yes, because you had the choice to take the one that had two kinds.
09-09-2018 04:49:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: You then chose to pick the option that gave the next person a choice.
09-09-2018 04:49:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Now, what happens if you go back and take a second one?
09-09-2018 04:50:24 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: so, if I want to maximise the number of choices, I pick the first one. But then I'd have the pick the first one any time I want to maximise choice, making it NOT a choice, which in turn makes it so that it doesn't matter which I pick, there's one choice being make either way.
09-09-2018 04:51:24 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: ie, if I choose to maximise choice, I choose not to make a choice over what flavor I actually want, and thus don't raise the end number of choices available
09-09-2018 04:51:45 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: You could still choose your decision method as to how you made a choice.
09-09-2018 04:57:07 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I'd just pick the lone ice cream which I know I like.
09-09-2018 04:58:00 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: There's three possibilities: The next person likes it too (bad); The next person likes both equally (small good); The next person likes the other best (most good).
09-09-2018 04:59:19 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: If I chose the one that there's two of, I'd be slightly less happy, and if they liked that one better, they'd be more likely to be slightly less happy since there's less of their favorite.  While, if they do prefer the other, their preference is presumably no greater than my own, so it's equivalent to me taking the single ice cream and forcing them to take the less favorite.
09-09-2018 04:59:40 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Since I don't know their preference, it's wisest to base my choice purely on my own.
09-09-2018 05:04:00 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: ...ah, while I do like the one that has only one left, the other flavor is pretty good, and I'd just had the one I liked last time, so this way I get some variety too.
09-09-2018 05:05:07 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: hell, if I ninja this and I'M the next person to choose, I get a choice myself that time!
09-09-2018 05:05:59 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: this way I get to pick my preference TWICE, even if my preference the first time was to pick the one I want less, because it might increase choice down the line
09-09-2018 05:09:26 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Yes, you've figured out how to be optimistic.  Good job~
09-09-2018 05:10:16 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: you kidding? I'm hella optimistic. How else could I kill so many of my own characters?
09-09-2018 05:13:14 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I'm the MOST optimistic, folks, just ask anyone
09-09-2018 05:13:36 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Nik is more optimistic.
09-09-2018 05:14:10 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I miss Nik again
09-09-2018 05:15:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Yeah, Nik's good.
09-09-2018 05:15:56 < * syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr misses him as well
09-09-2018 05:50:08 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hey, ER, how optimistic is Refine?
09-09-2018 05:50:46 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Not much more optimistic than dark souls
09-09-2018 05:50:47 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Like, I know it's post-apoc, but isn't it more about struggling and succeeding against the badness, unlike PS/PM3 where it's more of a merciless descent?
09-09-2018 05:51:47 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: you can struggle, but it's unlikely to save the world in the end. Saving the world is possible, but might just make thw world too unfair to even deserve to exist.
09-09-2018 05:52:10 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hmm.
09-09-2018 05:52:18 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: But, as for you personally, it might not be your problem.
09-09-2018 05:53:13 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: You're more powerful than most things in the world, it's your job to bring hope, and you probably won't live long enough to see the world cast into darkness forever.
09-09-2018 05:53:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Asking because Nik's reason for not joining PS was the very downer nature of it.  He likes light-in-the-darkness, stuggle against impossible odds stuff... but only if there's actually real hope, rather than hope existing only so it can be crushed.
09-09-2018 05:53:53 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Which makes it kinda funny that he likes WH40K, but I digress.
09-09-2018 05:54:38 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Anyway.  I think he might actually really like Refine, depending on how you run it.  You might send him the OP stuff once you're done with it, see if he has an interest?
09-09-2018 05:54:52 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: He's usually pretty good about actually seeig and answering PMs.
09-09-2018 05:55:37 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Well, refine is dark, where as ocean and denature. Are bright. Because those are set in a world that will last for a very, very, very, very long time still.
09-09-2018 05:56:13 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Still, refine may be what nik's looking for, as you can't have a light in darkness in a setting that's all light
09-09-2018 05:58:21 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: refine has a surprisingly wide set of inspirations considering that the setting is supposed to be a strange PM3 fanfic, and dark souls is in there.
09-09-2018 05:58:36 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: "fire will fade" and all that
09-09-2018 06:01:47 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: though maybe my distinction between light settings and dark settings is kinda more literal than metaphysical, because it's just about which shade fills the negative area when I picture it in my head?
09-09-2018 06:01:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: hmm.
09-09-2018 06:02:57 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: It Resonates is certainly a light setting. My internal asethetic for it was something like the game OFF, which is a game where most backgrounds are solid white, and the story themes are dark as hell.
09-09-2018 06:05:16 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Poor Poignant.  My only Hellion died, at level 6 too.  :(
09-09-2018 06:05:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: You were right, syv, it was clearly survivor rust.
09-09-2018 06:05:47 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Had a very classic game for me, get to the final two, lose the ensuing duel.
09-09-2018 06:06:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: although the last guy did spam gg and the tag thing, whatever that meant.
09-09-2018 06:06:35 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Well, GG is obvious enough.
09-09-2018 06:07:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: the tag thing was dogtags.
09-09-2018 06:07:21 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Kills?  Honor?
09-09-2018 06:07:50 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: that game's still alive?
09-09-2018 06:08:00 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: And thriving, apparently.
09-09-2018 06:08:19 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: People just like gambling, I guess.
09-09-2018 06:08:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: There were like 3000 people playing it.
09-09-2018 06:08:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: That's not small at all.
09-09-2018 06:10:01 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I'm seeing like rivers and shit?
09-09-2018 06:10:09 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: guess they kept updating
09-09-2018 06:10:10 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Yeah.
09-09-2018 06:10:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: There's a pile of new weapons, too.
09-09-2018 06:10:22 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: some stupidly op.
09-09-2018 06:12:20 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: guess I'll boot it up for a try or two
09-09-2018 06:17:40 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: rank 4 on solo vs squads, first try, 6 kills
09-09-2018 06:18:02 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...Wow.
09-09-2018 06:18:10 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: You two should Duo, clearly.
09-09-2018 06:18:17 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: hehe
09-09-2018 06:18:35 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I did find an 8x and spaz quite early
09-09-2018 06:18:47 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Spas-12?
09-09-2018 06:19:17 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: went down when I faced a coordinated duo... then ran away and ran into another coordinated duo.
09-09-2018 06:19:49 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: had plenty of boost, but they just whittled me down, and the red penned me in
09-09-2018 06:26:34 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: ah, so THOSE things explode when you punch them
09-09-2018 06:26:37 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: gud 2 kno
09-09-2018 06:28:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: down with two to go.
09-09-2018 06:28:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: killed by the last pair, 11 kills 1300 damage.
09-09-2018 06:29:31 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: yeah, so I found a neat little underground base, found a pair of rare weapons, then punched a metal box until it exploded in my face
09-09-2018 06:29:57 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: did it start smoking?
09-09-2018 06:30:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: anything that smokes blows up.
09-09-2018 06:31:57 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I'm not gonna stop punching something to check if a little smoke is seeping out~
09-09-2018 06:47:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Oh, and dogtag guy might have been excited since I punched him in the snoot in the middle of our combat with a knife, but he pulled out a hook so I had to try to gun him down.
09-09-2018 06:49:46 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: knife!?
09-09-2018 06:50:07 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Odd that in this game where the final two typically have automatic weapons, you can still end up punching in the end.
09-09-2018 06:50:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: there are knives in the game, now.
09-09-2018 06:50:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: That's what was odd about it.  I had a M39 EMR and a mac-10, but we were both reloading and he took a lot of bullets, so I thought I might be able to finish him off with a couple of quick punches.
09-09-2018 06:51:01 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: *flashback to the final fight of MGS4*
09-09-2018 06:51:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: got one in, but I was pretty low too and a hook is really good, so I had to back off.
09-09-2018 06:52:04 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: let's have a fist fight for no reason because that's more dramatic than just shooting at each other!
09-09-2018 06:53:00 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: So, Dev, why didn't you just shoot dogtags guy?
09-09-2018 06:54:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: I was reloading my mac-10.
09-09-2018 06:55:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: and I was right up close, because that's a very short-ranged weapon.
09-09-2018 07:09:16 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: https://youtu.be/k5w1kxoQnFY
09-09-2018 07:29:34 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: That is just unpleasant.
09-09-2018 07:31:59 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I like it~
09-09-2018 08:36:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: indeed.
09-09-2018 08:54:17 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: other than that, how are we?
09-09-2018 08:56:06 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: reading through those affliction barks made me think about sophia a few times, who SOMEHOW remains the character I empathise the most with.
09-09-2018 08:57:17 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Like, I won't even say she's the deepest character I've made, but she's the one that makes me think the deepest, despite barely playing as her.
09-09-2018 08:59:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Does that say something about Sophie, Syvarris, or your other characters?
09-09-2018 09:01:31 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: who knows!
09-09-2018 09:02:28 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Sophia, I think.
09-09-2018 09:02:52 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ER put her into just about as horrible a position as she could possibly be in.
09-09-2018 09:03:27 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: His other characters vary, but tend to be in relatively normal situations, so it's not them, and I haven't really touvhed the char, so not me.
09-09-2018 09:03:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Well, there's ninja-napped painter guy.
09-09-2018 09:06:05 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: ...Yes, so I suppose it's a conseqence of the fact that I just threw her the worst life that I could devise.
09-09-2018 09:07:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: I'm suprised that doesn't make her easier to write for you, syv.
09-09-2018 09:08:19 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: It does, though?
09-09-2018 09:09:46 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: less to do with the character, or syv's setting, or my other characters. On the level of personality she's the same as my other more serious characters, but the fact that the situation being so terrible makes me think is something about me. It feels oddly personal.
09-09-2018 09:10:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Hmm.
09-09-2018 09:41:17 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: "All stress healing activities are free!"
09-09-2018 09:41:34 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: stress heals!
09-09-2018 09:41:42 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: ...But I only have two two heroes with stress.  One has 2, one has 13.
09-09-2018 09:42:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: TK used to pet cats is free, right?
09-09-2018 09:42:42 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: did you accomplish that with godlike skill and luck, or by stalling out fights and bringing lots of stress healing heros?
09-09-2018 09:43:02 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I overuse crusaders.
09-09-2018 09:43:08 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: So the latter.
09-09-2018 09:44:16 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: *holds up banner* "STOP BEING SO STRESSED, ASSHOLES!"
09-09-2018 09:44:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Heh.
09-09-2018 09:44:52 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: That from the DS mod you've been playing?
09-09-2018 09:45:55 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I have: 3 Plauge Doctors (two L6), 3 Antiquarians (all L2), 1 hound masters? (L2, named "Cruel"), 5 Vestals (3 L6), 1 Dismas (L5), 6 Bounty Hunters (4 L6), 1
09-09-2018 09:46:28 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Hellion (L2)... And only 5 crusaders, (2 L6)?
09-09-2018 09:46:30 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Huh.
09-09-2018 09:46:50 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I usually use two per outing, how'd that happen?
09-09-2018 09:47:20 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Dismas! :D
09-09-2018 09:47:46 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Dances around with a shotgun and knife.
09-09-2018 09:47:52 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: he shoot, he stab, but most importantly he reposte for 10000 damage
09-09-2018 09:48:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Oh, right.
09-09-2018 09:51:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Darkest Dungeon.
09-09-2018 09:51:32 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: darker dark
09-09-2018 09:53:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Earthbound the RtD.
09-09-2018 09:55:55 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: bound to this earth
09-09-2018 09:56:47 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: I have no idea how you can connect those last two statements, Dev.
09-09-2018 09:57:33 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: goblin magic is versatile
09-09-2018 09:58:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: http://earthbound.wikia.com/wiki/Deep_Darkness
09-09-2018 09:58:17 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: with the right reagents and a proper incantation, you can causally link almost any two statements
09-09-2018 10:02:15 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: Indeed.
09-09-2018 10:02:23 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: That is a very tenuous link, Dev.
09-09-2018 10:03:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: What else would you expect from me?
09-09-2018 10:05:03 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: annoyingly high dodge stat
09-09-2018 10:11:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: doge stat?
09-09-2018 10:11:41 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: wow.
09-09-2018 10:16:30 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: such annoy.  so goblin.
09-09-2018 10:16:33 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: wow
09-09-2018 10:18:06 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goblin
09-09-2018 10:36:03 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: hmm, just thought of an... interesting potential upgrade to the incite power
09-09-2018 10:36:57 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: it's not op if I don't explain exactly what the secret mechanics it affects mean, right
09-09-2018 10:37:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Sure!
09-09-2018 10:38:39 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I mean, probably even if I explain exactly what it does, people will manage to only use it for mangling their own souls :v
09-09-2018 10:42:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Shoot, then.
09-09-2018 10:43:29 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: people will probably jump directly to mangling their souls no matter what I run
09-09-2018 10:43:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Yay!
09-09-2018 10:43:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Or you could say it and see if I figure it out.
09-09-2018 10:45:28 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: ah, it's pretty okay to give the quick version
09-09-2018 10:46:18 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: basically letting Incite permanantly mess with people's soul tendancy, which yes is a term I stole from demon's souls
09-09-2018 10:47:17 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: soul tendancy being a set of hidden levels in all the same things as your normal stats: fury, defiance etc.
09-09-2018 10:47:47 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: generally similar to what your stats in those things is, but not always exactly.
09-09-2018 10:48:41 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: hmm.
09-09-2018 10:51:31 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: How's SA affect the game?
09-09-2018 10:52:08 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: ways
09-09-2018 10:52:47 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: which is code for "I may have forgotten, but I'm sure there's a reason why this mechanic exists and I'll remember eventually"
09-09-2018 10:54:05 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Having a high level of soul tendancy determines which "class" powers you get
09-09-2018 10:55:32 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: and having low soul tendancy in everything will likely make you just fade away.
09-09-2018 10:56:22 < syv!syvarris@104.136.rzg.vsr: People don't choose their own class and levels?
09-09-2018 10:57:32 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Well, you get to choose your stats to begin with, and your stats and soul will likely start out the same.
09-09-2018 11:23:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Hmph, that's a question.
09-09-2018 11:23:49 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: oh, yeah.
09-09-2018 11:24:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: What do you do with an irreplaceable top quality whole chicken by a now-shuttered chicken farm?
09-09-2018 11:24:08 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I remembered the MAIN thing that soul tendancy did
09-09-2018 11:26:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: I have one left that I'd forgotten about.
09-09-2018 11:26:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: and they're wonderful.
09-09-2018 11:27:48 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: toss it onto a camp fire, probably
09-09-2018 11:28:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: That'd be a horrible waste.  Something this good needs a real oven.
09-09-2018 11:28:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: I have a good recipie, but it works better with smaller chickens and it's for feeding a bunch of people.. you get three or four of them.
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09-09-2018 11:33:40 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Uh, I dunno. Unfortunately don't know much about cutting up meat for cooking
09-09-2018 11:35:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: ok.
09-09-2018 11:39:07 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: get the good parts and deep fry em, I suppose
09-09-2018 11:58:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: I'm not from the american south.  I don't have a personal deep fryer.
09-09-2018 11:58:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@ilen-0v4tx9su6vgc15gnqpu678w1k.ipv1.telus.net: Although that's not a bad idea.
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09-09-2018 23:49:55 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: mafia!? mafia!
09-09-2018 23:50:29 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: looks like it's reached the bit where it gets a little weird