14-08-2018 00:18:00 -!- ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 14-08-2018 00:18:08 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: covfefe 14-08-2018 00:22:01 -!- Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net has quit [*.net *.split] 14-08-2018 00:23:18 -!- Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 14-08-2018 00:23:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: Just had a pretty clean run through MoO. Won a diplo victory with about 40% total pop. Would have lost it, but I managed to sign an important non-agression pact with the at-the-time leaders. 14-08-2018 00:24:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: Should be good for that now. 14-08-2018 00:25:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: I was annoyed at the last couple of losses and suprisingly close games. 14-08-2018 00:25:25 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: Would have been tricky to attack, though, no autorepair in my tech tree for the usual gunship model. Would have had to use missile boats. 14-08-2018 00:28:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: This one wasn't easy, but I made some good decisions, grabbed a good chunk of land, and mostly held off the other races. Except for the Psilon leaders, whom I signed the major NAP with, which as it turned out, happened the same turn they sent their doomstack to take one of my biggest planets. 14-08-2018 00:29:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: The ease with which they smashed that planet told me it was a good idea. 14-08-2018 00:29:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: But they went for the invasion, and I managed to nick just enough ground combat techs to hold on to the planet, and they were left with their doomstack trying to police a planet they couldn't invade properly. I've only seen that happen to the AI three or four times. 14-08-2018 00:31:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: Usually they smash a big target flat, but I guess they thought they could win the invasion due to them having a big ground tech advantage. I managed to move that 10 points which changed the math a lot. 14-08-2018 01:47:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: (You'd better be careful, ER, your painter might go the way of Crablante. 14-08-2018 01:47:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: ) 14-08-2018 02:16:20 -!- MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk has joined #einsteinianroulette 14-08-2018 02:16:34 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejWnwVWuoCo 14-08-2018 02:16:52 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: fun romp through animation styles 14-08-2018 02:27:23 -!- MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14-08-2018 02:36:07 -!- MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk has joined #einsteinianroulette 14-08-2018 02:49:06 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: that is commitment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrbaPi5J0Eg 14-08-2018 02:49:22 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: I don't know what to, but it's comitment 14-08-2018 02:50:42 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: tfw you're walking through the woods and suddenly you start feeling it 14-08-2018 02:51:00 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I guess (?) 14-08-2018 02:51:59 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: I have no idea. All I know is it's glorious 14-08-2018 02:55:03 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: And assuming it's not some mod or admin spawn or something. The amount of time it would have taken to aggro all of those animals is amazing 14-08-2018 03:36:34 -!- MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14-08-2018 04:02:50 -!- ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14-08-2018 04:10:42 -!- MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk has joined #einsteinianroulette 14-08-2018 04:16:49 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: heya. 14-08-2018 04:17:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: won another game. Had a fairly straightforward run, only had to make a few dozen strategy decision. 14-08-2018 04:17:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: decisions. 14-08-2018 04:23:38 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: nice 14-08-2018 04:23:51 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: I'm assuming this was MOO? 14-08-2018 04:28:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: Yeah. 14-08-2018 04:28:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: was annoyed. Had a couple of losses and very tough games, so it was nice to get a solid win. 14-08-2018 04:29:45 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: ah cool 14-08-2018 04:30:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: It's such a good game, though, there really isn't anything else like it. 14-08-2018 04:32:59 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: how so? 14-08-2018 04:33:51 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: The tech holes really drive the game around, as does the diplomacy. As does the single victory condition. 14-08-2018 04:34:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: Also, if you get a good lead up, the game just ends. There's no mopup, very little micromanagement, and you generally win by making the right decisions. 14-08-2018 04:37:25 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: tech holes? 14-08-2018 04:37:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: Yeah. 14-08-2018 04:37:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: Master of Orion doesn't have a conventional tech tree. 14-08-2018 04:37:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: It has six trees. 14-08-2018 04:37:48 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: although they're more like ladders. 14-08-2018 04:38:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: You reaserch something at a rung, that unlocks the next rung. 14-08-2018 04:38:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: half of all techs are missing. 14-08-2018 04:38:16 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: intresting 14-08-2018 04:38:29 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: In a given game, you don't know what sorts of holes you'll have, what problems you'll need to work around. 14-08-2018 04:38:50 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: This one I had no engines below grade 4, and I really focused on getting class IV engines fast when they finally showed up. 14-08-2018 04:39:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: I also had no missiles after the six damage second level, which meant I had to heavily overpay for better missiles from another race. 14-08-2018 04:39:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: ..and the trade mechanics meant I had to both give up something very big, and had a very brief moment where it was available. 14-08-2018 04:40:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: basically, the AI decides what it'll be willing to trade you, and after you pick what you want, it picks what it wants from your tech list. 14-08-2018 04:40:28 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: No negotiation. 14-08-2018 04:41:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: Those also were very helpful, but there still was one enemy faction that could stomp me like a bug, which meant I had to play around the doomstack. 14-08-2018 04:43:44 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: Neat 14-08-2018 04:44:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: Yeah. If you'd like I'll play a start out for you, if you'll give me a bit. 14-08-2018 04:45:55 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: cool, Just mention me when you do 14-08-2018 04:46:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: tech support scammer. 14-08-2018 04:46:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: just a minute. 14-08-2018 04:47:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: Aww, dude hung up. 14-08-2018 04:47:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: I think he smelled a rat. 14-08-2018 04:53:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: okay, game's up. 14-08-2018 04:53:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: need a link? 14-08-2018 04:53:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: MidJag 14-08-2018 04:53:58 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: I would apperciate one 14-08-2018 04:54:15 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: twitch.tv/kofiman19 14-08-2018 04:55:46 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: looks cool 14-08-2018 04:55:55 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: Title looks kinda like XCOM 14-08-2018 04:56:17 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: neat 14-08-2018 04:58:22 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: Looks like Katia 14-08-2018 05:03:08 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: heh, space bears sounds like a 90's thing 14-08-2018 05:06:29 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: I think the darloks sound fun. Essentially jawas 14-08-2018 05:07:20 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: nah 14-08-2018 05:08:30 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: alright 14-08-2018 05:18:24 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: Heh, I like how the JAwas look super evil. 14-08-2018 05:18:44 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: heh 14-08-2018 05:19:43 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: So better tech is better for the economy? 14-08-2018 05:24:38 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: heh 14-08-2018 05:25:05 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: That sounds like the ultimate silicoid spot 14-08-2018 05:38:52 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: I keep thinking this is like an intro to XCOM in some way :P 14-08-2018 05:40:21 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: Huh, was that an old anti piracy thing? 14-08-2018 05:42:09 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: heh, moving dots around, 4X games in a nutshell 14-08-2018 05:43:36 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: I see 14-08-2018 05:44:54 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: So your good at spying right? 14-08-2018 05:45:02 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: How does that manifest in the game? 14-08-2018 05:46:30 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: cool 14-08-2018 05:49:00 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: ah 14-08-2018 05:49:56 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: heh, that's a nice laser 14-08-2018 05:52:19 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: I think I missed something, what can you do? 14-08-2018 05:52:47 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: ah 14-08-2018 05:55:11 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: Jenga! Be sure not to make the tower you built there collapse 14-08-2018 05:55:13 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: :P 14-08-2018 05:57:51 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: Missilies seem pretty weak 14-08-2018 05:59:37 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: Ah. 14-08-2018 06:00:35 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: Nice 14-08-2018 06:01:05 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: Does the AI try to steal tech? 14-08-2018 06:01:43 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: Nice 14-08-2018 06:03:41 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: why are hand lasers good? 14-08-2018 06:22:43 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: Ah 14-08-2018 06:26:19 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: Alright Dev, I need to go bed pretty soon. Thanks for playing, was pretty intresting 14-08-2018 06:27:21 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: alright 14-08-2018 06:27:24 < MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk: night 14-08-2018 06:27:29 -!- MidJag!midjag@97.85.sw.ivk has left #einsteinianroulette 14-08-2018 13:30:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: Ahh, love that argument. 14-08-2018 13:31:19 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: Arguing that it's okay to eat meat, because it naturally leads from my support of pro-choice policy. 14-08-2018 13:32:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: Very good for getting people off-script to see if they're willing to ask questions. 14-08-2018 14:09:11 -!- Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net has joined #einsteinianroulette 14-08-2018 14:09:53 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: #irritated 14-08-2018 14:10:13 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: Radio is the only one on the other team to post this round, and that team STILL gets an update before ours 14-08-2018 14:11:10 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: and at the rate they are accumulating words in such a benign setting ... Tey'll outpace normal missions handily, for low to no risk 14-08-2018 15:08:31 -!- Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 14-08-2018 16:46:41 -!- midnightjaguar!Mutter@81.sub-719-368-789.myvzw.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 14-08-2018 16:46:58 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@81.sub-719-368-789.myvzw.com: Devestator you around? 14-08-2018 16:51:29 -!- midnightjaguar!Mutter@81.sub-719-368-789.myvzw.com has quit [Client Quit] 14-08-2018 17:02:28 -!- midnightjaguar!Mutter@81.sub-719-368-789.myvzw.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 14-08-2018 17:03:25 -!- midnightjaguar!Mutter@81.sub-719-368-789.myvzw.com has quit [Client Quit] 14-08-2018 18:25:49 -!- ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com has joined #einsteinianroulette 14-08-2018 20:57:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: k6bd update. 14-08-2018 20:57:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: Not sure where all that hair came from. 14-08-2018 20:58:05 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Well, she trained in magic bullshit kung fu with an angel with a huge mass of hair. 14-08-2018 20:58:17 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Also time passing. 14-08-2018 21:00:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: Not much time passing. 14-08-2018 21:00:34 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: sill visible wounds, after all. 14-08-2018 21:01:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: but yeah, presumably more time passes. 14-08-2018 21:03:24 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Well, the plant witch wounds are healed well enough, because she's standing. :P 14-08-2018 21:03:42 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: And I think the scars from the claw-to-the-face are pretty permanant. 14-08-2018 21:06:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: maybe. 14-08-2018 21:06:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: Or maybe the hair is just for the cover. 14-08-2018 21:52:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@ujfp-4e0lc2xe0pue0t74c9tl9og9u.ipv4.telus.net: place your bets. 14-08-2018 23:45:49 -!- syv!syvarris@2600:380:4c65:klpu:qjly:yqxu:kpyq:zwvs has joined #einsteinianroulette 14-08-2018 23:45:58 < syv!syvarris@2600:380:4c65:klpu:qjly:yqxu:kpyq:zwvs: Baep? 14-08-2018 23:46:13 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: boop 14-08-2018 23:46:27 < syv!syvarris@2600:380:4c65:klpu:qjly:yqxu:kpyq:zwvs: bop 14-08-2018 23:46:31 < syv!syvarris@2600:380:4c65:klpu:qjly:yqxu:kpyq:zwvs: How's The Surge? 14-08-2018 23:46:47 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: there's a big annoying robot 14-08-2018 23:47:59 < syv!syvarris@2600:380:4c65:klpu:qjly:yqxu:kpyq:zwvs: I heard the boss fights were poor. Is it the first boss? 14-08-2018 23:48:26 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: second 14-08-2018 23:48:56 < syv!syvarris@2600:380:4c65:klpu:qjly:yqxu:kpyq:zwvs: What was the first one? What makes it annoying? 14-08-2018 23:50:02 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: The first boss was a big chickenwalker thing. You just have to run under its legs and whack it till it falls over, and then hit the weak spot for massive damage. 14-08-2018 23:50:31 < syv!syvarris@2600:380:4c65:klpu:qjly:yqxu:kpyq:zwvs: If only you could summon Tarkus. 14-08-2018 23:51:04 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: It also tries to boost away and shoot rockets at you, but if you run under its legs real quick it will hit itself and fall over. 14-08-2018 23:51:19 < syv!syvarris@2600:380:4c65:klpu:qjly:yqxu:kpyq:zwvs: Hah. 14-08-2018 23:51:50 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: But if you stay at range in general it hits you with big fucking melee weapons that have too much range and knock you over >:| 14-08-2018 23:52:31 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: The second boss is a big disk with six legs and two rocket engines on top. 14-08-2018 23:52:47 < syv!syvarris@2600:380:4c65:klpu:qjly:yqxu:kpyq:zwvs: That sounds... different. 14-08-2018 23:52:51 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: It kinda hovers around on the legs with help from the rockets 14-08-2018 23:53:40 < syv!syvarris@2600:380:4c65:klpu:qjly:yqxu:kpyq:zwvs: Was it the thing that was visible through the windows while you were killing Liquidators? 14-08-2018 23:54:01 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: if you stay close, it'll try to whack you with the closest leg, which you can easilly sidestep and use to hit that leg. If it hit one leg enough it'll get stunned, and then a couple more hits will destroy that leg. 14-08-2018 23:54:29 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: If you smash three legs it starts flying around properly, but also exposes its head. 14-08-2018 23:54:45 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Yeah, window thing. 14-08-2018 23:55:07 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: You also see it flying around two seperate times earlier in the game. 14-08-2018 23:55:34 < syv!syvarris@2600:380:4c65:klpu:qjly:yqxu:kpyq:zwvs: That actually sounds pretty neat, honestly. Kinda surprised that reviewers said the bosses were bad. 14-08-2018 23:56:30 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: They're fun, but kinda heavy on the gimmicks. Kinda like Iji, I think. 14-08-2018 23:56:52 < syv!syvarris@2600:380:4c65:klpu:qjly:yqxu:kpyq:zwvs: Dark Souls should have more giant robots to kill. I don't care if they're inappropriate for a fantasy setting, I just want to kill Numidium with a falchion. :I 14-08-2018 23:57:19 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Though that's kinda true of the robot enemies in general. The welder bots take very little damage unless you hit them in the back. 14-08-2018 23:57:41 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Which you usually have to do by stunning it with a duck/hop dodge 14-08-2018 23:57:59 < syv!syvarris@2600:380:4c65:klpu:qjly:yqxu:kpyq:zwvs: I guess I just don't dislike gimmick bosses as much as most people. I haven't found Bed of Chaos annoying since... my first playthough, I don't think. 14-08-2018 23:58:23 < syv!syvarris@2600:380:4c65:klpu:qjly:yqxu:kpyq:zwvs: Yeah, the welder bots seemed pretty annoying, being forced to essentially parry an attack to hurt them. 14-08-2018 23:58:44 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Though I have been able to get shots in other ways. 14-08-2018 23:59:11 < syv!syvarris@2600:380:4c65:klpu:qjly:yqxu:kpyq:zwvs: Like? 14-08-2018 23:59:25 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Dodge to the side while it's doing the hoppable sweep, or just strafe while it's lighting shit on fire.