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11-07-2018 05:35:52 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: !
11-07-2018 05:36:01 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: oh hai
11-07-2018 05:37:19 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Up to anything?
11-07-2018 05:39:17 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I went hiking, met a bear with cub, and consequently decided that when I got home I would shower and take a very long nap, rather than think about anything serious.
11-07-2018 05:41:07 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Huh.  With a cub?  That's worrying.
11-07-2018 05:42:05 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I didn't see her other than just a glimpse though the trees, but other people did.
11-07-2018 05:43:01 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: had to take a different trail to the road because she wasn't going away. Would have been a long walk along the road had not a very nice person with a minivan given us a ride.
11-07-2018 05:45:14 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Hmm.  It's been much too long since I went hiking.
11-07-2018 05:45:24 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Pity it's so wet right now.
11-07-2018 05:45:43 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Are there nice spots for that in florida?
11-07-2018 05:46:34 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: When it's not too wet, yeah.  Right now even most of the high ground is puddles, but it's pretty nice when it's about 50/50.
11-07-2018 05:46:55 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Oh, and I mean just walking around the woods.  No hills of course. ;P
11-07-2018 05:47:03 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: yes
11-07-2018 05:52:12 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: if there's a hell, it must be flat :I
11-07-2018 05:56:09 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: ...Why?
11-07-2018 06:00:16 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: because flat terrain is terrifying
11-07-2018 06:01:16 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: -.-
11-07-2018 06:01:36 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Mountains sre way worse, you can't fall off a flat plain.
11-07-2018 06:01:50 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Hell would be a sheer cliff face, infinitely tall.
11-07-2018 06:03:09 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: you can fall over on a flat plane, and then stare at the sky consumed by the extistiential dread of having nothing above you that's solid and nothing below you that's gaseous
11-07-2018 06:04:04 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: You can also be consumed by the existential dread of having nothing below you that's solid, at least for the first few hundred meters, and then something that IS solid.
11-07-2018 06:04:09 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: no up, no down, it's like a key part of reality has just been torn out
11-07-2018 06:04:15 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: I find that far more existentially terrifying.
11-07-2018 06:05:09 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: no, that's just perilous, which is far better than something truly terrifying
11-07-2018 06:06:39 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Disagree.
11-07-2018 06:07:03 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: does peril even mean anything when you're in hell?
11-07-2018 06:07:42 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: like, at that point you're immortal, so hitting the ground will just hurt, and probably much less than most of the hurt you've already felt.
11-07-2018 06:11:06 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: I think in Hell you wouldn't know you were in Hell.  Or, you'd only know intermittently.
11-07-2018 06:11:38 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Like, you'd keep waking up and thinking it was only a dream, go about your day, and then have Hellish things happen without understanding why.
11-07-2018 06:39:22 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I got bored of that conversation
11-07-2018 06:40:22 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: So, Injury?
11-07-2018 06:41:50 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Injury!
11-07-2018 06:42:45 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Injury...
11-07-2018 06:43:52 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: sneaky tactics hurt my poor brain a little without a battle map or anything. I might need to make a habit of making maps, not having a good enough view of the space is a recurring problem.
11-07-2018 06:46:48 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Maps aren't too difficult.
11-07-2018 06:48:35 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: well, I stuck a plugin into paint.net to make it generate grids for me, so that should make it fairly painless
11-07-2018 06:52:48 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: https://youtu.be/ppfv-8HnLUQ?list=PL0A12ED38862DB0F5
11-07-2018 06:56:27 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: dammit, wanderer.
11-07-2018 06:56:41 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: stop having such good luck, I need to kill you.
11-07-2018 07:00:42 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: :)
11-07-2018 07:01:39 < Devastator!chatzilla@riyb-9c0hu2ht5yrd5cvbpv0snbhwm.ipv9.telus.net: phew
11-07-2018 07:01:53 < Devastator!chatzilla@riyb-9c0hu2ht5yrd5cvbpv0snbhwm.ipv9.telus.net: Ahh, unskilled labour.
11-07-2018 07:02:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@riyb-9c0hu2ht5yrd5cvbpv0snbhwm.ipv9.telus.net: Had a bear cub walking through my lawn last week.
11-07-2018 07:03:08 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: there, have a thingy
11-07-2018 07:05:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@riyb-9c0hu2ht5yrd5cvbpv0snbhwm.ipv9.telus.net: Heh.
11-07-2018 07:06:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@riyb-9c0hu2ht5yrd5cvbpv0snbhwm.ipv9.telus.net: heys syv.
11-07-2018 07:06:32 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Heys Dev
11-07-2018 07:06:36 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Haze Dev?
11-07-2018 07:06:46 < Devastator!chatzilla@riyb-9c0hu2ht5yrd5cvbpv0snbhwm.ipv9.telus.net: Got a job.
11-07-2018 07:06:55 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Groundhogs?
11-07-2018 07:06:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@riyb-9c0hu2ht5yrd5cvbpv0snbhwm.ipv9.telus.net: got fed up with the lack of callbacks and took a labour position.
11-07-2018 07:08:47 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: So... small fuzzy animals murder each other now?
11-07-2018 07:09:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@riyb-9c0hu2ht5yrd5cvbpv0snbhwm.ipv9.telus.net: Yeah.  I'll update that again starting next weekend.
11-07-2018 07:09:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@riyb-9c0hu2ht5yrd5cvbpv0snbhwm.ipv9.telus.net: so when is Pumsy's?
11-07-2018 07:10:30 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: I don't know.
11-07-2018 07:11:02 < Devastator!chatzilla@riyb-9c0hu2ht5yrd5cvbpv0snbhwm.ipv9.telus.net: At least cabal is going okay.
11-07-2018 07:11:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@riyb-9c0hu2ht5yrd5cvbpv0snbhwm.ipv9.telus.net: and RC will stop bugging me about mouth hell.
11-07-2018 07:25:14 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: Was thinking about Refine a lot. Think I'll swap "stoicism" for "truth", which is a bit closer to purity is theme
11-07-2018 07:25:45 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: and it looks less like an actual RPG stat, which is bonus ;D
11-07-2018 07:26:29 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Hmm.
11-07-2018 07:27:12 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Wonder if I should just throw the class spoilers at you.  Unlikely they'll ever get discovered legit, considering how slowly I update.
11-07-2018 07:27:30 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: hehe
11-07-2018 07:28:09 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I can wait a long time
11-07-2018 07:29:19 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: I suppose that's an answer.
11-07-2018 07:58:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@riyb-9c0hu2ht5yrd5cvbpv0snbhwm.ipv9.telus.net: ok.
11-07-2018 07:58:31 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: kay
11-07-2018 07:58:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@riyb-9c0hu2ht5yrd5cvbpv0snbhwm.ipv9.telus.net: mouth hell.
11-07-2018 08:04:39 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: youtube reccomended this to me https://youtu.be/FDCMMtY3uTk
11-07-2018 08:12:34 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: That... sounds much less terrible than I exoected.
11-07-2018 08:12:56 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: it does work decently
11-07-2018 08:28:10 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Cosplay Souls is an interesting, if not exactly difficult mod.
11-07-2018 09:18:56 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Aww man I wish I'd recorded that.  I killed the hydra by playing fetch with it.
11-07-2018 09:52:11 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: wanna have a Labyrinth fight https://youtu.be/XfeDy6SdiTs?list=PL0A12ED38862DB0F5
11-07-2018 09:53:18 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: What would this entail?
11-07-2018 09:53:45 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: you updating~
11-07-2018 09:54:03 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: ...
11-07-2018 09:58:11 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: should totally toss cave story references into refine once that's running
11-07-2018 10:03:20 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: powers are kind of the hard part. Your game has 6 powers for 8 classes each with three levels and they all work differently and I have no idea how you did that
11-07-2018 10:05:51 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Do you remember awhile back when I was in IRC and just asked for any kind of magic power or superpower, no matter how silly?
11-07-2018 10:06:12 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: yes?
11-07-2018 10:06:15 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Most of the interesting stuff came directly from that.
11-07-2018 10:06:44 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I remember recommending the ability to bleed snakes and that's not in there
11-07-2018 10:07:25 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Most of the stuff I used didn't even get added in a way even vaugely resembling the suggestion.
11-07-2018 10:07:36 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: "directly"
11-07-2018 10:08:12 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: IIRC MJ suggested a magical girl hooking up tubes to her eyes to use her tears as a saline solution, and that directly resulted in Flagellation.
11-07-2018 10:08:20 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: I don't have any recollection HOW that happened, but it did.
11-07-2018 10:08:31 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: uh huh
11-07-2018 10:09:04 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: well, I think I have ideas
11-07-2018 10:09:22 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: maybe some of them are bad ideas, but they're certainly there
11-07-2018 10:09:39 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: But yeah, most of the classes have a couple concepts/characters behind them which inspired stuff.  I'd watched RWBY recently, and though I didn't think much of it, Weiss and... the gold-haired girl affected Purity and Bravery, for instance.
11-07-2018 10:10:16 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Creativity is inspired by shapechangers, Piecewise-esque fleshorror, and rogues.
11-07-2018 10:10:19 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: so you're saying I have to watch anime? D:
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11-07-2018 10:10:57 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Joy is basically just a D&D blaster mage, Kyouko, and a couple sugg--Uhh.
11-07-2018 10:11:17 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Bah.  I probably wasn't being helpful anyway.
11-07-2018 10:11:40 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Point was, all of it's derivative, with general goals and themes aimed for.
11-07-2018 10:16:35 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Ahh, now I remember Flag's connection.  Point of the saline tears was using the char's suffering to heal someone else.  Fluff around it was silly, but the core idea of sacrificing self to heal another was good.  At some point I moved the actual physical damage to the target, since that synergized better.
11-07-2018 10:19:07 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Probably also relevant (do you logread, ER?) that I rewatched the entire PM3 anime and wrote down every magical thing anyone did.  Everything in Eq came from that, and a lot of base powers.  Should've rewatched the movie too, some stuff came from there anyway, but only what I recalled...
11-07-2018 10:20:54 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: Oh!  The three levels for each power came pretty much strictly from figuring out what L3 was, then debuffing it in various ways for L1 and L2.
11-07-2018 11:20:42 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: ...And now I have a text file containing the exact reasons for each of the powers, if not what specifically made me think of them.  Guh, I like this system so much, pity the game itself isn't nearly as much fun.
11-07-2018 11:21:26 < syv!syvarris@2001:5b0:2a6c:slgh:tymo:xqiq:qzjy:upwo: That apparently took precisely an hour to write, too.  Neat, if a waste of time.
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11-07-2018 20:14:11 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: yes syv, I am reading the logs ;P
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11-07-2018 22:16:38 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: well dev, your idea in spidergame has worked perfectly
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