28-06-2018 00:00:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: supply?
28-06-2018 00:01:24 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@096.69-380-95.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Not even close buddy boy.
28-06-2018 00:02:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: It'd have to update more often.  ;-p
28-06-2018 00:03:02 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@096.69-380-95.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: True that.
28-06-2018 00:19:44 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@096.69-380-95.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: I'm off to bed.
28-06-2018 00:20:01 < Radio_Controlled!Mibbit@096.69-380-95.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be: Good night gentlemen, the pleasure was all yours.
28-06-2018 00:20:02 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: rip
28-06-2018 00:20:17 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: oh no
28-06-2018 00:20:23 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: I assure you, it was all yours
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28-06-2018 00:54:51 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: looks like I actually missed the newest segment of the all guardsmen party
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28-06-2018 01:11:24 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: "Decades later, Judge-Captain Terrance Dockbosson the Sixth, fondly recalled that as the day he decided to abandon several generations of family tradition and enlist in the Arbites."
28-06-2018 01:16:34 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: aw yeah, that's a nice half-a-interlude
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28-06-2018 03:05:05 < midnightjaguar!Mutter@435.sub-907-556-922.myvzw.com: Mysterious Island is truly just a God awful movie.
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28-06-2018 03:10:46 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: ...
28-06-2018 03:10:49 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: okay
28-06-2018 04:10:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: okay?
28-06-2018 04:15:43 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: Oh, ER, NJW said he might update in the next day or two.
28-06-2018 04:26:53 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: neat
28-06-2018 04:29:55 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: Yup.
28-06-2018 04:30:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: sadly, Bella is no longer a thing.
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28-06-2018 06:12:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: heya
28-06-2018 06:12:18 < MidJag!midjag@22-080-66-53.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com: ello
28-06-2018 06:12:22 < MidJag!midjag@22-080-66-53.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com: How're you?
28-06-2018 06:12:37 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: Pretty good.
28-06-2018 06:13:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: http://loweringthebar.net/2005/02/police_put_clam.html
28-06-2018 06:13:26 < MidJag!midjag@22-080-66-53.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com: That's insane.
28-06-2018 06:13:53 < MidJag!midjag@22-080-66-53.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com: Truelly that's just insane.
28-06-2018 06:14:05 < MidJag!midjag@22-080-66-53.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com: I have no other words to describe it.
28-06-2018 06:15:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: Immensely Regrettable.
28-06-2018 06:15:14 < MidJag!midjag@22-080-66-53.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com: I wonder what exactlly their thought proccses was when they showed up with the injured man.
28-06-2018 06:15:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: "I don't want to be on the hook for this ticket!"
28-06-2018 06:16:07 < MidJag!midjag@22-080-66-53.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com: Heh, I meant the airport police guys.
28-06-2018 06:16:14 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: Yeah, that.
28-06-2018 06:16:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: ;-p
28-06-2018 06:17:09 < MidJag!midjag@22-080-66-53.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com: heh
28-06-2018 06:17:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: NJW also said he might update Coven in the next day or two.
28-06-2018 06:17:57 < MidJag!midjag@22-080-66-53.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com: I like how at this point you always link some lowering the bar or something and I always link some metal band.
28-06-2018 06:18:09 < MidJag!midjag@22-080-66-53.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com: And cool
28-06-2018 06:18:24 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: Yeah, then he's travelling for a couple weeks.
28-06-2018 06:18:42 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: Seems to be enthusiastic about it, though, so it isn't like force is involved.
28-06-2018 06:19:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: Mission is finally over in Chalice.
28-06-2018 06:21:25 < MidJag!midjag@22-080-66-53.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com: Neat. I'm trying to join DIG 2 but my lab just recently went into crunch time for getting some results. So I'm not entirely sure I'll have time.
28-06-2018 06:22:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: It'll likely stick around a while, so no hurry.
28-06-2018 06:22:38 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: Do you need a distraction?
28-06-2018 06:23:17 < MidJag!midjag@22-080-66-53.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com: Sure.
28-06-2018 06:25:00 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: I was having an argument with syv about what was more nerdy.
28-06-2018 06:25:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: This video:
28-06-2018 06:25:06 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpk2tdsPh0A
28-06-2018 06:25:12 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: or This video:
28-06-2018 06:25:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3p2F0hUsBc
28-06-2018 06:26:23 < MidJag!midjag@22-080-66-53.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com: I've actually seen that one before. You linked some speeed run a long while back and it was one of the related videos
28-06-2018 06:26:36 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: Probably how I found it originally.
28-06-2018 06:32:11 < MidJag!midjag@22-080-66-53.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com: I would say the first one, is nerdier.
28-06-2018 06:32:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: Yeah, that was my position.
28-06-2018 06:32:35 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: syv disagreed.
28-06-2018 06:33:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: Also, speaking of syv, I've been trying to get him to transform my character in his magical girl game into a werewolf.
28-06-2018 06:33:13 < MidJag!midjag@22-080-66-53.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com: The first one is just more technical.
28-06-2018 06:33:26 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: For various munckiny reasons, but mostly to see if I can make him write bad furry fanfic.  ;-p
28-06-2018 06:33:52 < MidJag!midjag@22-080-66-53.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com: heh. That would be hilarious.
28-06-2018 06:35:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: syv mentioned already that he's a fan of such fanfic.. maybe not liking it, but he reads a lot of it.
28-06-2018 06:36:46 < MidJag!midjag@22-080-66-53.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com: Sounds like something syv would do.
28-06-2018 06:36:53 < MidJag!midjag@22-080-66-53.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com: He does like tormenting himself
28-06-2018 06:38:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: Yeah, so operation 800 words about the fluffiness of a tail commence!
28-06-2018 06:41:57 < MidJag!midjag@22-080-66-53.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com: perfect
28-06-2018 06:43:58 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: at the end of it there is no Alida, only tail.  ;-p
28-06-2018 06:44:56 < MidJag!midjag@22-080-66-53.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com: You've got an MG in a wizard game and a werewolf in an MG game. Nice.
28-06-2018 06:46:11 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: I don't have the second yet.
28-06-2018 06:46:18 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: and what would Alida count as?
28-06-2018 06:46:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: sorry, Nanami.
28-06-2018 06:46:36 < MidJag!midjag@22-080-66-53.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com: is that one Chalice?
28-06-2018 06:47:03 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: That's the one in Coven.
28-06-2018 06:47:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: Chalice is featuring Thag Simmons, caveman.
28-06-2018 06:47:42 < MidJag!midjag@22-080-66-53.dhcp.mntv.al.charter.com: I thought Aldia was an MG. Or at least a JRPG charecter
28-06-2018 06:48:21 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: Alida is the one in Pumsy's.
28-06-2018 06:48:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: melee-focused MG.
28-06-2018 06:48:33 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: who I'd love to turn werewolf.
28-06-2018 06:49:04 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: The JRPG character could be several of them, but Nanami is the burgeoning succubus who wants to reach JRPG kleptomania.
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28-06-2018 13:54:13 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: heya Oz.
28-06-2018 13:54:20 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: and Aigre.
28-06-2018 13:54:27 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: Aigre
28-06-2018 13:54:31 < * Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj snuggles Oz
28-06-2018 13:54:37 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: I've been on discord all this time
28-06-2018 13:54:42 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: but felt the emptiness
28-06-2018 13:54:48 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: even bay12 discord can't fill it
28-06-2018 13:55:11 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: hey guys
28-06-2018 13:55:40 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: I'm only on for a bit, Oz.
28-06-2018 13:55:44 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: anything you wanted to chat about?
28-06-2018 13:57:30 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: Thanks for collating all the decks for me.
28-06-2018 13:57:43 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: you're welcome.
28-06-2018 13:57:54 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: I didn't ahve anything in particular to chat about
28-06-2018 13:58:43 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: just pooping in to say hey to people
28-06-2018 13:58:56 < * Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net hugs Aigre
28-06-2018 13:59:13 < * Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj hugs Oz to bits
28-06-2018 13:59:33 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: i feel like making a high mortality crawler
28-06-2018 13:59:54 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: like if grunts were sent into a oro meatgrinder
28-06-2018 13:59:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: Sure, no problem.
28-06-2018 14:00:58 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: might be fun.
28-06-2018 14:00:58 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: Limit the chargen to simple archetypes or something though
28-06-2018 14:02:16 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: Could do it with Orks.
28-06-2018 14:02:23 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: you are a choppa ork or a shoota ork.
28-06-2018 14:02:24 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: are you still running grunts Oz?
28-06-2018 14:02:31 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: orks orks orks orks
28-06-2018 14:02:44 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: which is what happens when you put a bunch of random forum people into a military unit anyway
28-06-2018 14:02:47 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: just ork rush
28-06-2018 14:03:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: Or the opposite of ork rush, everyone just sits back and does little.  ;-p
28-06-2018 14:03:12 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: I haven't run Grunts for about eight months now
28-06-2018 14:03:34 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: the first iteration was a lot of fun, but a lot of work. The second iteration was just a mess
28-06-2018 14:06:59 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: hmm looking at 888 for inspiration
28-06-2018 14:09:14 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: i wonder how pw handles turn order when the player numbers get extreme
28-06-2018 14:09:23 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: how do YOU handle turn order in grunts Oz
28-06-2018 14:09:32 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: players and then enemies, with players in the order of posts.
28-06-2018 14:10:26 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: In Grunts, I break the players into squads of 5 or so, then do turn order by squad
28-06-2018 14:11:10 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: and Dev has it for how we handle player order in general: by post order. Especially when yo uhave lots of players of various kinds
28-06-2018 14:12:37 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: then when players do deliberate friendly fire you roll initiative or so
28-06-2018 14:13:39 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: i had an idea somewhere in my head of simulating the pros and cons of thinking a pistol into a tunnel fight over a machinegun
28-06-2018 14:14:01 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: and finding a mechanic to somehow give the smaller weapon an advantage in extreme clusterfucks
28-06-2018 14:14:12 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: taking*
28-06-2018 14:15:10 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: of course, you could always assign everyone involved a number, and roll for initiative linked to the number. USe larger dice for higher numbers of particiapnts
28-06-2018 14:15:10 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: so, for five players and five enemies, a d20 should be enough
28-06-2018 14:15:12 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: for 15 of each, a d100 would be necessary
28-06-2018 14:15:20 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: that's a lot of work though
28-06-2018 14:15:52 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: players then enemies make sense for brawls
28-06-2018 14:15:58 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: and wiht large groups it's usually beter to roll a few dice for the lot as groups rather than as individuals
28-06-2018 14:15:59 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: and i notice pw enemies tend to be bosses
28-06-2018 14:16:05 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: rather than swarms of rats
28-06-2018 14:21:05 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: Anyway, I'm off.
28-06-2018 14:21:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: be back later.
28-06-2018 14:23:14 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: later
28-06-2018 14:24:21 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: drop your players into an eldritch dungeon with nothing more then gum and a gun
28-06-2018 14:24:38 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: tho the guns tend to take the tension away
28-06-2018 14:24:45 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: from most horror genres
28-06-2018 14:24:58 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: the best horror is when the power difference is extreme
28-06-2018 14:25:15 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: but a gun can be used to highlight that too
28-06-2018 14:25:24 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: here's a gun, it won't save you ala silent hill
28-06-2018 14:25:34 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: you're still running like hell from random shit
28-06-2018 14:26:06 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: hte best horror is when there's alwaysa chance at safety, just out of reach, and there's always hte threat of destruction, breaths away.
28-06-2018 14:31:05 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: mm but we still need a premise for why we're dropping the players into danger in the first place
28-06-2018 14:31:27 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: the forced military service for prisoners thing is what ER is going on
28-06-2018 14:31:36 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: and what i tried with the scp game
28-06-2018 14:31:59 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: it wascanonicalwith scp anyway. no biggie
28-06-2018 14:31:59 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: and it's convenient to justify poor resources and high casualties
28-06-2018 14:32:42 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: with an eldritch one, though, you cold simply have a bunch of random people at a aprty
28-06-2018 14:32:42 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: and htey experience soem weird shit
28-06-2018 14:32:52 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: bam! even if they  go their separate ways, th horror goes with them
28-06-2018 14:35:24 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: orks would just be high mortality comedy, they don't make good horror receivers as protagonists
28-06-2018 14:36:13 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: mm there's a few indie horror games that do that
28-06-2018 14:36:27 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: random THING that follows a pc and does reality shitting stuff to them
28-06-2018 14:42:44 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: or you can play orcs straight ala racial discrimination, victimization and unfair ass kicking
28-06-2018 14:42:49 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: and their struggle for freedom
28-06-2018 14:44:07 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: hmm.
28-06-2018 14:44:27 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: I'll be honest, I'm not really up on orc lore. This is from wh40k, rihgt?
28-06-2018 14:45:26 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: well 40k and tolkien. which are similar.
28-06-2018 14:45:40 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: 40k would be purest of pure comedy
28-06-2018 14:45:49 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: there's no characterization of their orks whatsoever
28-06-2018 14:46:13 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: https://patricksponaugle.com/2015/01/06/the-orcish-perspective-on-game-of-thrones/
28-06-2018 14:46:15 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: Oz
28-06-2018 14:46:28 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: this is a pretty good take on writing the orc perspective
28-06-2018 14:47:48 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: I am up on Tolkien Lore, though. orcs were Elves corrupted by Melchor - bendt and broken until tey were a twisted shadow of their former selves.
28-06-2018 14:48:12 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=25&v=VoAfb3f04mo
28-06-2018 14:48:15 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: I don't recall if they still go to the Hall of andos when they die though.
28-06-2018 14:48:24 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: have you seen the fanfic the last ringbearer
28-06-2018 14:48:41 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: it pictures mordor as the progressive people being stiffled by magic wielding elves and wizards
28-06-2018 14:49:25 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: huh.
28-06-2018 14:49:41 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: naturally.
28-06-2018 14:50:28 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: There's a lot of sympathy for those depicted as evil or villainous these days. Lots of fanfic likes to flip the script tht way
28-06-2018 14:50:35 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: Wicked, for instance
28-06-2018 14:50:54 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: Maleficent
28-06-2018 14:51:10 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: Loki in the MCU
28-06-2018 14:51:34 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: Magneto in days of Future Past
28-06-2018 14:51:47 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: well, sort of.
28-06-2018 14:52:38 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: orcs could be fun... "the orcs routinely are massed up into huge, overwhelmingly powerful armies and marched off. Armies that get brutally destroyed and slaughtered by all sorts of dirty tricks."
28-06-2018 14:55:57 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: it could run like an only war campaign
28-06-2018 14:56:34 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: the pcs make some gains on their little stretch of objectives just to be told that some other part of the army has collapsed and things have turned to shit
28-06-2018 14:58:04 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: you break into the keep of the fortress and are cleaving through its insides... but a wizard shows up with 2 thousand heavy cavalry behind you
28-06-2018 15:03:59 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: yeah, that would be interesting.
28-06-2018 15:03:59 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: hmm. Now I am considering running a game called "Movie Villains" or some such
28-06-2018 15:04:23 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: like suicide squad?
28-06-2018 15:04:55 < Oz!Mibbit@65-151-624-240.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net: no, more like "we may think we're th heros, but we're the villains, and will ultimately gt our comeuppance
28-06-2018 15:06:54 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: I miss 'You are a D-list batman villain.'
28-06-2018 15:06:59 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: Best RTD concept ever.
28-06-2018 15:08:22 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: how would you simulate drawbacks of heavy armor/equipment/overthetop-ultra-weapons
28-06-2018 15:08:40 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: fatigue and all can be clunky
28-06-2018 15:09:07 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: It breaks now and again.
28-06-2018 15:11:46 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: and is expensive to maintain
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28-06-2018 15:12:12 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: but that's just military logistics
28-06-2018 15:13:56 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: yeah.
28-06-2018 15:17:42 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: I could probably design something around squad combat using vampire the masquerade's dark ages ruleset
28-06-2018 15:18:02 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: where the pc is expected to routinely take out entire patrols of hapless humans, solo
28-06-2018 15:18:22 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: because he's a superpowered vampire knight or special ops infiltrator
28-06-2018 15:18:54 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: and then we translate that into the pcs playing orc chieftians, making the hard choices and getting tolkienish bad luck again and again
28-06-2018 15:19:02 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: because wizards. and good always wins.
28-06-2018 15:19:54 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: we could even have some driving forces: why is an orc tribe serving the army of the dark lord? Sauron gives you food. or something
28-06-2018 15:22:17 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: or maybe you don't even like your dark lords but if you can take them fertile lands from the horselords, your people, women and children and all will have a much better life
28-06-2018 15:22:31 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: hmm.
28-06-2018 15:25:09 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: in VTM DA, your pc gets the full list of stats and powers, but one human soldier typically represents 1-3 dice plus equipment bonuses
28-06-2018 15:27:12 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: so you come across a squad of 5 soldiers worth 2 dice each, for 10 dice, they have armor and weapons worth 2+2 dice making them 14 dice. but you have say 6 dice from physical attributes, 3 from a weapon and then you spam vampiric super strength for another 3 dice. You roll 12 dice, and say get 5 successes, and you kill 2 of the 2 dice soldiers and wound 1... it goes something like that.
28-06-2018 15:28:25 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: then maybe 2 suvivors attack you for their dice+weapon bonuses for say 6 dice, if they get like 3 successes, you absorb maybe 1 from your leather armor, then roll your stamina stat to soak the remaining 2
28-06-2018 15:28:34 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: that's how vtm handles superpowered man vs horde
28-06-2018 15:41:49 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: I feel like testing a minimum viable product for an orc game
28-06-2018 15:42:14 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: i imagine. just orc chieftians, foot soldiers as resources, objectives to take
28-06-2018 15:42:26 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: you don't even need personal stats, although you can.
28-06-2018 15:44:19 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: for flavour, a dark lord rewards you with grains and not killing your women and children
28-06-2018 18:41:25 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: https://pastebin.com/SpH5j3QK
28-06-2018 18:49:47 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: too much
28-06-2018 18:57:40 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: if i want to handle more players i can't have every squad be a data object
28-06-2018 18:58:05 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: i should do it dragon pass style and just have "infantry type a, quantity:" and let narrative handle the rest
28-06-2018 19:04:13 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: 1 set of variables per player rather than potentially infinite set of variables per player
28-06-2018 19:27:01 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: back.
28-06-2018 19:42:31 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: hugs
28-06-2018 21:03:18 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: take 2 https://pastebin.com/a4cUuZ5G
28-06-2018 22:00:02 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=171200.msg7795947#msg7795947
28-06-2018 22:20:12 < Aigre!Aigre@2404:e800:e615:ys:lyhu:hzlt:vxnt:umkj: bunts devastator
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28-06-2018 23:06:50 < ER!ER@33-305-828-39.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com: oh *good*, we have Aigre back~
28-06-2018 23:48:08 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: heya ER.
28-06-2018 23:48:27 < Devastator!chatzilla@kubh-8o6al0uy9dwi49kzvq06qftvw.ipv7.telus.net: He started a game about orcs.
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